Midge: A Chance for Projects

You don't need me to protect you, from people like you.

Midge is more alive than ever! Instead of one sim on mainland it is now one whole continent consisting of 14 sims

It is not the project that failed. It is the mainland that failed: no terraforming, no banning of griefers, eyesores and lag coming from neighbour sims, no land deeding/undeeding, no room to expand and many more things. The exodus from Midge to the first "Ansheland" sims already quietly started some weeks ago when Sorriesa went online.

Pretty much all of Midge is now for sale I made 4 big parcels, about 1/4th sim size each. The mountain is ideal for one huge castle estate. And the area below is green and nice for many uses, both residential and commercial (telehub just below!)

"It is not the project that failed. It is the mainland that failed'

Excuse me are you calling SL mainland a failier! That's great press for LL. I don't know who you think you are but but the mainland is not a failer. Stop saying crap like this just to get ppl to move to your sims.

You've gone too far this time.

Hmm...this sounds like one of those phrases like "The King is Dead...Long Live the King."
or "Living Has Become Better...Living Has Become More Fun! (J.V. Stalin).

On the one hand, the project is "not a failure" but on the other hand "it is for sale".

I don't know if we can say the mainland failed, because the overwhelming majority of residents still live on the mainland and most have a lot of fun and seem fairly happy with their purchases, I gather.

No terraforming? Well, I had an easy solution for that: you just sell the land to people and they terraform themselves, or they get temp-edit privileges by putting the land on edit (always risky as we know from the Edge of Midge drama lol). Still, Anshe is right there isn't *as much* terraforming as there used to be -- and Anshe is a master at terraforming!

No banning of griefers? But you could put on av ban lists even for rentals, and you could put the entire group on group-only -- don't know if anyone tried that. I personally don't want to do that because red lines and bouncing around are things that I hate when others do it to me so I think to be a good neighbour you can't do that.

Eyesores and lag coming from neighbouring sims. Well, there you are right about that. That was one of the problems of Midge. Not buying up the viewlines, even when they were buyable. I know I bought up one viewline, but then some didn't like me in their view LOL. You need one sim, plus four halves of sims to have anything approaching viewline control, and really five sims would be the only way to do it, with deep forest on the outer ends with HUGE PINE TREE deployed strategically or big castles or something.

No room to expand? But Anshe, Stump and Grace were for sale, as were Wixom. Grace sat for sale for ages and finally I got some of it and the Canadians got the other half. It's PG, so I guess not very many people want it but PG is SL's best-kept secret!

In fact, you bought Wixom to make a telehub corridor to Midge. And it's Wixom's lag that is spreading into 4 sims now, not Midge being bothered necessary by lag, although Wixom's lag from your own Wild West in Wixom affected your own Midge -- a built-in contridiction you have to face now with sims you are advertising where you're going to have to deal with resident-induced lag from their businesses. We had this in Ravenglass/Furness. It only takes one selfish person with a vicious bounce script and a lot of stupid spinning turntables and animated objects that people don't even ever see much to ruin the FPS for people on 3 sims at least. It's an outrage and it's one of those reasons why LL should be a) banning bounce scripts consistently across the board and b) charging people who draw on CPU resources significantly with their scripted objects. That will concentrate the mnd wonderfully, if calls to neighbourliness do not work.

I agree that this is one great parcel. Either for castles, or for a flat green ranch, or both. It's a great area. It's a struggle, given the blight on the one end from the idiots in the sky, and the lag from Wild West, but it is still worth it IMHO.

No, the mainland is wild and free but it can be tamed...and give us more freedom than in gated communities far from the social life that you can get near bustling telehubs and fly-bys.

P.S. I believe I'm mistaken and that is NOT blaze's castle now but it looks like it.

When I said that the mainland failed then I meant that it failed for the type of project as in Midge. The private island sims simply work much better. The project is still fully alive and growing rapidly, all land owners (except for you) are still with it. You look at screenshot below and you can understand why people just love the new continent much more than the old mainland sim :

Almost all pristine new sims are really attractive. What will it look like with crap built all over everything?

I think that the advantage of Anshe's private sims are freedom (ONE CAN HOPE) from

- houses floating in the air
- excessive particles
- cubes of death
- clubs or malls
- rotating for sale/rent signs

If you are into playing "house", these are all very good reasons to go there. (And a bit cheaper to boot!)

Given that over time Anshe's gone from one zoned sim to a whole bunch, I very much doubt there's a "failure" going on. Say what you want, she doesn't strike me as a person who pursues proven failures. I'll bet it works out!

Buster

Buster,

It's the failure of a project on the open grid. That's what is important.

If you move the project to the closed private island grid, make up a bunch of rules, run it with an iron hand, not really give people their freedom over their property at the end of the day, well, sure, that's a success for a subscription zoned community as distinct from a voluntary zoned community.

But I think we need to find ways to live on the open free grid.

If I'm the only person from Midge who didn't move to the new Midge, well...do I really want to live in snow? I didn't come to Midge for snow. And a bunch of other reasons! I mean, it only takes one little customized request like -- I'm in Midge but I want desert, not snow, can you put me in snow -- that can't be answered and dealt with, and you begin to see why freedom is important.

I could send you a picture from Refugio that is just as pretty even after 4 months because neighbours just worked out how to build things and keep the sim more or less looking good, despite set backs. They didn't even hardly have to talk to each other, but just do a bit of common sense and courtesy. (And no, Barmovic, I never heard from any actual neighbours about my signs in Ross visible from Refugio, and I only heard from you, and I never did hear if you lived on the sim.)

Buster, the problem with the private islands, once again:

1. You have no accidental fly-by traffic or walk-in traffic or grid telehub traffic. That's going to mean that you have less attendance at events, less purchases in stores, less everything. Life on the free open grid is life, whether you like it or not. We have yet to see if the more stilted existence of the closed grid will have that same kind of potential.

2. An island owner can't divvy up their parcels and sell off parts of the island completely, the way you can do with Ironjaw. They can deed it as a lease, but once that person wants to sell out, they have to take the lower sell-out price, or try to find a buyer. And if something happens to the private island owner, the whole boat sinks unless someone can be found to buy out the whole thing, not in pieces.

On the open grid, if I want to rent, sublet, sell, public my land I can do so at the drop of a hat. Not on the closed grid.

The Lindens are revising the tools so that the private island owners can now more easily deed their property and let tenants have more control.

But I find it totally exasperating that they revised tools to help private island owners deed out land in iron-clad rentals schemes (that's where their anticipated volume business came I guess), but they didn't give any heed to fixing land groups with their flaws (like officer recall and failure to provide tier pull notification, etc.) which would have enabled more rental voluntary zoning communities to take place on the grid. But I'm not whining. I'm not running out to buy a private island, either. I will continue to work with the circumstances they give us, on the open grid, and try to find ways to solve the problems there.

I loved Midge. And I love Anshe's new projects, too. I am critical even of things I love. I raise the issues surrounding them. There are pros and cons to each type of project. Let's explore them honestly.

But let's not pretend that Midge on the open grid, in the way I first envisioned it, and Anshe ultimately implemented it, was a success. It wasn't. It was driven away by griefers, building idiocy, poor sales, lag incuded by the sim owners other sim (LOL), and just failure of players to understand what a great opportunity it was.