LindeX Market Data Past Three Months?
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Teufel Hauptmann
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02-28-2006 20:50
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to find the market data for L before three months ago. I can find the data on our website here for the past three months, with no problem, but I'd like to see what has happened over the past years. Anyone know where I can find this information?
Thanks, Teufel
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ReserveBank Division
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03-01-2006 19:16
From: Teufel Hauptmann Hello everyone,
I'm trying to find the market data for L before three months ago. I can find the data on our website here for the past three months, with no problem, but I'd like to see what has happened over the past years. Anyone know where I can find this information?
Thanks, Teufel Yes. Here is your data... http://secondlife.com/currency/graph-price.phpDay 1: Down Day 2: Down Day 3: Down Day 4: Down Day 5: Down Day 6: Down Day 7: Down Day 8: Down Day 9: Down Day 10: Down Let me know if you need some more data...
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Teufel Hauptmann
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03-01-2006 20:50
yea, I have seen that chart, but I'm looking for info on the L before that. Like last year. Thanks
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ReserveBank Division
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03-01-2006 20:57
From: Teufel Hauptmann yea, I have seen that chart, but I'm looking for info on the L before that. Like last year. Thanks Better ask the GOM folks to report the data they have.. Thats where the L$ was traded until LL decided to stab GOM in the back. Online exchange dumps 'Second Life' By Daniel Terdiman Staff Writer, CNET News.com Published: September 29, 2005, 5:23 PM PDT http://news.com.com/Online+exchange+dumps+Second+Life/2100-1043_3-5885924.html Gaming Open Market, which for the last two years has facilitated the sale of $2.76 million in currency from virtual world "Second Life," is getting out of the game. Since its inception in 2003, Gaming Open Market has dealt almost exclusively in the trade of Lindendollars--the "Second Life" virtual currency--for U.S. dollars. Players with too many Lindendollars would use GOM as an exchange through which to sell their excess to players looking to buy more. GOM charged a commission for each transaction. The relationship between GOM and Linden Lab was so close, in fact, that the publisher promoted the inclusion of ATMs in "Second Life." That allowed players to make deposits to or withdrawals from their GOM accounts. But about a month ago, Linden Lab began talking about launching its own player-to-player exchange. The forthcoming competition appears to have led to GOM's decision to get out of the Lindendollar business. GOM did not respond to requests for comment. "We started talking to GOM and told them what we (were going) to do," said Linden Lab CEO Philip Rosedale. "They were like, 'Jeez, if you do that, it's going to have a big effect on us.' And that's true." Rosedale said Linden Lab began talks with GOM about possibly purchasing the exchange, but in the end, the two companies couldn't reach an agreement. GOM's announcement, sent to its members on Tuesday, said it would halt all Lindendollar trades on Oct. 2 and that, "we feel that closing the (Lindendollar) market to concentrate on other projects is in the long-term best interests of GOM." GOM didn't mention what other projects it might pursue, and Rosedale said he had no insight into the exchange's plans. But because GOM has dealt exclusively with Lindendollars for so long--it initially traded in the currencies of many online games, but later decided to focus on Lindendollars--it isn't clear what options it has. GOM's decision doesn't mean "Second Life" players can't turn to third parties to buy or sell Lindendollars. There are several other such exchanges, including IGE, one of the largest secondary markets for the virtual goods of online games like "World of Warcraft," "EverQuest" and others. In any case, one observer of virtual worlds told CNET News.com that Linden Lab might be better off creating its own player-to-player exchange and that the company's move could be a precursor to similar future moves by other publishers of online games and virtual worlds. "In the long run, virtual worlds that intend to support (real money trades) may want to manage--if not operate--that process themselves," said Nate Combs, an editor of Terra Nova, the leading Web site about online games and virtual worlds. "I believe that what we may see ultimately emerge is an eBay model among such virtual worlds where the core market--and data--is owned or controlled by the center but where third parties are able to value-add and innovate via add-ons regulated via a 'developer program.'"
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Surina Skallagrimson
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03-02-2006 02:15
Teufel, LindeX only started in September. Before that most trades were done through GOM. The graph you want is in this thread.
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03-02-2006 05:27
This chart says it all: http://forums.secondlife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28494 The Linden Dollar is falling an continues to fall day after day. Too bad the naysayers can't comprehend forcasting. Because they thumped their chest about the strength of the Linden Dollar when it was at US$4 and yet a few months later, its down another 10-12% percent... Don't believe the hype, look at the numbers and the chart. the Trend is Down!!!
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03-02-2006 09:56
From: ReserveBank Division This chart says it all: http://forums.secondlife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28494 The Linden Dollar is falling an continues to fall day after day. Too bad the naysayers can't comprehend forcasting. Because they thumped their chest about the strength of the Linden Dollar when it was at US$4 and yet a few months later, its down another 10-12% percent... Don't believe the hype, look at the numbers and the chart. the Trend is Down!!! Months...lol...it was more like 2 weeks. Cue up some Duane Allman blues guitar... 
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ReserveBank Division
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03-02-2006 10:26
From: Calix Metropolitan Months...lol...it was more like 2 weeks. Cue up some Duane Allman blues guitar...  Calix: Oct 2005 - Mar 2006 isn't two weeks. Its 5 months. http://secondlife.com/currency/graph-price.php
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Red Mars
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03-02-2006 10:51
From: ReserveBank Division This chart says it all: http://forums.secondlife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28494 The Linden Dollar is falling an continues to fall day after day. Too bad the naysayers can't comprehend forcasting. Because they thumped their chest about the strength of the Linden Dollar when it was at US$4 and yet a few months later, its down another 10-12% percent... Don't believe the hype, look at the numbers and the chart. the Trend is Down!!! As a pure consumer in SL, I say YAY!!! Cheaper Lindens!! Woohoo!
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Patch Lamington
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03-02-2006 12:33
Dont cheer too much yet Red, for some reason RBD linked to a chart which ended in May 2005. Quick question, how many residents were there in May 2005? 50,000? I joined in November when there were around 80,000. Lets face it, it was quite a different game then. For something more recent, try https://secondlife.com/currency/market.php - select the 'all' option and you'll see the market since the lindex opened - at around 280-310L$ to the dollar.
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Siggy Romulus
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03-02-2006 12:45
Welll I could take it from the first day Lindex opened and say 'its constantly improving'
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03-02-2006 13:17
From: Siggy Romulus Welll I could take it from the first day Lindex opened and say 'its constantly improving' That would be a cheap assessment. Considering there was flux in the transition between GOM and LindenX... Start your assessment once the L$ stabilized on LindenX around US$4.00 and you get a terrible decline in the L$ over the last 5 months.
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Toy LaFollette
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03-02-2006 13:37
Yup.... time to throw myself off the ivory tower.... oh wait did that last ime..... still not seeing a reason for all the hype about a decline on increase.... Life goes on, people have fun.... just because chicken little cris doom does not make it so.... I will go on paying my tier, enjoying SL and never panic untill the lights go out..... this is Second Life, not $econd Life.
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03-02-2006 13:50
From: Toy LaFollette Yup.... time to throw myself off the ivory tower.... oh wait did that last ime..... still not seeing a reason for all the hype about a decline on increase.... Life goes on, people have fun.... just because chicken little cris doom does not make it so.... I will go on paying my tier, enjoying SL and never panic untill the lights go out..... this is Second Life, not $econd Life. Hahahah.... You might think its Second Life, but its supported by $econd Life. Regardless if you choose to believe it or not.
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Siggy Romulus
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03-02-2006 13:55
From: ReserveBank Division That would be a cheap assessment. Considering there was flux in the transition between GOM and LindenX...
Start your assessment once the L$ stabilized on LindenX around US$4.00 and you get a terrible decline in the L$ over the last 5 months. Just showing how subjective your own assessment is.
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Toy LaFollette
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03-02-2006 14:03
From: ReserveBank Division Hahahah.... You might think its Second Life, but its supported by $econd Life. Regardless if you choose to believe it or not. Wrong it's supported by typical players such as myself. Without us there would be neither Second Life or $econd Life.... think about it 
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03-02-2006 14:13
From: Toy LaFollette Wrong it's supported by typical players such as myself. Without us there would be neither Second Life or $econd Life.... think about it  Sure Toy, Sure... And land barons like Anshe would still pump thousands of dollars into SL which in turn funds LL's expansion and growth, if they couldn't make L$ Profit.. Don't be blinded by the rainbows and roses. The almighty Greedy traits of Barons and Profit seekers is what keeps LL in business which in turn keeps Second Life Alive.
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Siggy Romulus
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03-02-2006 14:17
they only make profit because of the regular everyday people who buy L$...
ponder that on the tree of woe... you need them much more than they need you.
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Toy LaFollette
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03-02-2006 14:18
From: ReserveBank Division Sure Toy, Sure... And land barons like Anshe would still pump thousands of dollars into SL which in turn funds LL's expansion and growth, if they couldn't make L$ Profit.. Don't be blinded by the rainbows and roses. The almighty Greedy traits of Barons and Profit seekers is what keeps LL in business which in turn keeps Second Life Alive. Wake up!!! most people do not make money is SL. I dont, and dont need it to. I dont need to make more than I do in RL.. this is a entertainment medium... nothing more. If your entertained and obsessed with money fine, but dont preach doom and gloom about it constantly. I dont care if anyone makes money in SL or everyone does. It just doesnt concern the majority.
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03-02-2006 14:56
From: Toy LaFollette Wake up!!! most people do not make money is SL. I dont, and dont need it to. I dont need to make more than I do in RL.. this is a entertainment medium... nothing more. If your entertained and obsessed with money fine, but dont preach doom and gloom about it constantly. I dont care if anyone makes money in SL or everyone does. It just doesnt concern the majority. Care to rephrase your assumption? I believe its you who needs to Wake Up. You've been napping and got blindsided.. Making a Living in Second Life By Kathleen Craig 02:00 AM Feb, 08, 2006 EST Source: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70153-0.html?tw=rss.indexJennifer Grinnell, Michigan furniture delivery dispatcher turned fashion designer in cyber space, never imagined that she could make a living in a video game. Grinnell's shop, Mischief, is in Second Life, a virtual world whose users are responsible for creating all content. Grinnell's digital clothing and "skins" allow users to change the appearance of their avatars -- their online representations -- beyond their wildest Barbie dress-up dreams. Within a month, Grinnell was making more in Second Life than in her real-world job as a dispatcher. And after three months she realized she could quit her day job altogether. Now Second Life is her primary source of income, and Grinnell, whose avatar answers to the name Janie Marlowe, claims she earns more than four times her previous salary. Grinnell isn't alone. Artists and designers, landowners and currency speculators, are turning the virtual environment of Second Life into a real-world profit center. "It's not just a game anymore," said online artisan Kimberly Rufer-Bach. "There are businesses, nonprofits and universities" taking advantage of the online world.
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Toy LaFollette
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03-02-2006 15:11
From: ReserveBank Division Care to rephrase your assumption? I believe its you who needs to Wake Up. You've been napping and got blindsided.. Making a Living in Second Life By Kathleen Craig 02:00 AM Feb, 08, 2006 EST Source: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70153-0.html?tw=rss.index Jennifer Grinnell, Michigan furniture delivery dispatcher turned fashion designer in cyber space, never imagined that she could make a living in a video game. Grinnell's shop, Mischief, is in Second Life, a virtual world whose users are responsible for creating all content. Grinnell's digital clothing and "skins" allow users to change the appearance of their avatars -- their online representations -- beyond their wildest Barbie dress-up dreams. Within a month, Grinnell was making more in Second Life than in her real-world job as a dispatcher. And after three months she realized she could quit her day job altogether. Now Second Life is her primary source of income, and Grinnell, whose avatar answers to the name Janie Marlowe, claims she earns more than four times her previous salary. Grinnell isn't alone. Artists and designers, landowners and currency speculators, are turning the virtual environment of Second Life into a real-world profit center. "It's not just a game anymore," said online artisan Kimberly Rufer-Bach. "There are businesses, nonprofits and universities" taking advantage of the online world. Hey hon, it is a game  I make more than enough RL to pay for my addiction. Apparently you dont 
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Siggy Romulus
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03-02-2006 15:26
Still doesn't support 'most people in SL do though' That just says 'this one person does.. and some others do too' Its very hard to prove one way or the other really - because you don't know what the number that is 'the majority' in SL... let alone what they do. But I would hazard a guess that those that use SL as their primary source of income are in the minority.... and I think I would lay money on those odds. Of course in the RBD Bizzaro world of everything am backwards... they will disagree 
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Toy LaFollette
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03-02-2006 15:34
and of course reports of a few people making a bit of money off a game is news.... never a word about the average player.
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Patch Lamington
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03-02-2006 16:32
quick math test: if 70,000 SL players want to each earn $2500 USD a month selling lindens on lindex, how much will the other 70,000 SL players have to spend on average buying lindens? anyone still think that most people are here for the money? ps Anshe does most of her trade in USD - not lindens. pps good on her, and everyone else who IS making a real living in SL. ppps If people didnt quote RBD I'd never know what he was on about! Im really enjoying the 'ignore' feature 
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03-02-2006 18:36
From: Toy LaFollette and of course reports of a few people making a bit of money off a game is news.... never a word about the average player. Because the average player like you spends their time making rainbows and fails to see the Cha$Ching you could be making. That is why nobody does stories on the average person.
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