Land Market Cornered

Precisely. Thank you.

What we are witnessing here, is thuggery and racketeering from a handful gangsters who believe that attacking me, is diverting from their own misdeeds in the land business.

no one attacked you here.... you came in and hijacked the thread for your own attack. You attacked first, interjected your own ideas about something completly off topic, and started a personal flame war

Thanks Weedy, you've managed to get this thread locked too for Linden review I'm sure its coming... as soom as they get through reading all your wasted ARs you file because someone stepped on your shoe, or didnt pick up after their dog.

How about you mind your business, and we'll mind ours. You dont need to start a fight because your lil feeble mind has such a disorder that it thrives attention ALL the time. Get over it, your not a 3 year old child - and if you are - get your ass on the teen grid where you belong... maybe you can scan for public land there.

Attack me all you please, but remember, you do so at your own peril. Nothing will divert from the reality of your groups actions.

My comments were completely on point to the title of this thread. I am not the one swooping land from unsuspecting residents and I am not the one reselling land at 19000% profit.

The land business in Second Life is not being played on a level field. As long as there are swoopers who make huge profits by exploiting residents, I will continue to protest it to LL and the community.

The problem with land is that it's too expensive, period.

I personally have no time for land barons, because I feel that it's the same as reselling baby food for inflated prices - an essential commodity that should not be subject to market prices and personal profit.

Auction land, unless it's a new full sim, has been paid for many times over previously, so why it is resold at 'new value', perhaps $250 or so for a large plot, is a blatant rip off.

Many of my plans are scuppered because I am unable to find the land that I require at the price I am willing to pay. Not only are you screwed by having to pay a high monthly fee just for the 'privilege' of owning land, but you have to pay a massive amount up front to buy it as well.

There is a massive glut of land, as has already been pointed out in this thread. Surely it would do Linden Lab a great benefit to reduce a load of it to $1, let people buy the land they want, and pay the increased monthly fee, instead of it just sitting idle, unwanted, and full of spinning advertising crap that nobody wants.

If first land can be sold at L$1/sq m, there is no reason why all land can't be sold for that. After all, by charging a large up front purchase fee towards the cost of the land, plus paying each month for the privilege, you are effectively paying twice for the same item.

Ban land dealers from the mainland, let them play with their private islands and zoned communities if they want, and leave the average player to enjoy all that SL offers without being restricted by money. I have said all along that the 'economy' is far more damaging to SL than griefers can ever be.

Lewis

You and I both know that won't happen Lewis. Alot of people make a living in Second Life, including persons with disabilities. The problem lies with racketeering, not the economy itself.

Real world economies have trade agreements, anti-trust laws and regulations to prevent insider trading. SL has no such regulations, therefore has become a breeding ground for gangster tactics.

While SL was smaller, the community was tight-knit and LL had a good ear. Not lately though because we are now inundated with people who think the streets are paved with gold and resort to underhandedness for greed.

It's really quite bad, and getting worse.

again with the attack comment... NO ONE ATTACKED YOU HERE.

your other 2 thread you hijacked got closed, so you came back to this one with your needless banter once again.

weedy when have you EVER personally seen me buy a $1 plot of land? No i'm talking PERSONALLY!! Im not talking about going to one of my parcels up for sale, and talking with a previous land owner 2 hours after a transaction. When have you seen me PERSONALY, STANDING THERE, when I've bought something for $1

You never have. You never will either. You have NO IDEA what the story behind that plot was, and it was a one time thing that you just cant let go. Get over it... go pick on the one person you really want to, leave the group alone, and the rest of the fine people in the group alone... gripe all you want about 1 specific person we all know who it is and please go do it elsewhere and stop dumping on threads where its not related, and not welcomed

And to Lewis's post.... LL sells firstland at $1/sqm becuse its an incentive to get users to go buy something cheap. Linden Lab doesnt make anything selling the land, they could give it for free -- it wouldnt make a difference. There always will be a land market. LL doesnt run the land market, they just provide the service. Its the people paying toe premium fee, and land tier fees that pay the electric bill at LL headquarters

If LL controled the land economy... who knows, but people would still bitch. The GOOD thing about the land economy is the users control it. Supply/demand control the prices. If there is a land glut, expect the average price to start dropping. Right now its at around 5.0/sqm at the bottom of the market for Mature. I dont look at PG so I wouldnt know about that side of things.

Maybe eventually I'll make my land details that I database available for public review... i collect collect a lot of land data from a lot of different sources. I think my own personal economic details with at least land far surpass what LL gives us to look at. For example i can see how many days in tier a person held land before it sold.

The way land works is good... outside of micro-managing people and in the hands of its users.... so the user base really do dictate price.... if ya dont like the price dont buy it... if everyone did, land sellers would lower to meet the demand

Duh, your attack on me is what caused the thread to be closed. I will not quote from a locked thread. People are smart enought to see for themselves. You are niether a resmod nor a Linden, so your assertion is dismissable as a personal attack.



Yes I have, although more than once. As you own admission in the next quote attests:



I hear alot of YOU YOU YOU, seems like ad hominem personal attacks to me. It's doesn't take away from the facts as they exist. I guess you feel its your right to derail a thread with personal attacks and off topic questions. At least I can give you credit for admitting that one of your members is behaving despicably. You were there when he pulled that stunt today and bought the land from him, all the while as the victims were watching. even going so far as charging them 22,222L for their own land back. Real class act. Attack me all you want, the community sees this for what it is.

Anyway, its not my intention to derail this thread answering your loaded questions. I stick to my assertion that there is a very real racketeering situation here.

Ok, this thread is full of personal attacks and is being locked for Linden Review. It could use a time out at the least.

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