Land Market Cornered
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 22:05
From: Weedy Herbst It was your group's members who caused that thread to be closed by attacking me. Has everything to do with this thread because the underhanded landswoopers are richly profiting while respectable business are not. So that answers my question. Your profits must be skyhigh. Oh and nice death threats on your neighbour.. http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=1675
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Jack Harker
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07-29-2006 22:10
From: Aaron Levy In all honesty, I've dreamed of winning the lottery and dumping a few million into SL to see what could/would happen. Would I buy it all, then immediately release it, bogging down the LL auction queue? Would I buy it all and then set it to sell for L$1 to anyone? Would I see how much L$ can be purchased at once on the LindeX before it breaks?
If you had $10 million, and you had to spend it on SL, what would you do? Invest it in LL just like their *last* round of funding, and use the influence derived to try to put a damper on some of the more boneheaded moves and glaring blind spots that LL's managment seems to be responsible for. There, that was easy. 
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:10
From: Wrestling Hulka Please do not regulate who I can sell to - Thanks! And what does that have to do with this thread?
To answer the topic of the thread - no one is going to front that much money to buy out the market. They would be doing so at a loss, especially with all the 999,999,999 plots You took the land from those people, as you do every day. Your profits from your swooping scams are forcing people out of SL. 19000% profit on a plot of land is reprehensible, while others are trying to put food on the table. You and others in your group are using an EXPLOIT, which is predatory and despicable.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 22:13
From: Weedy Herbst You took the land from those people, as you do every day. Your profits from your swooping scams are forcing people out of SL. 19000% profit on a plot of land is reprehensible, while others are trying to put food on the table. You and others in your group are using an EXPLOIT, which is predatory and despicable. Theres no exploit..just people WHO DON'T READ WARNINGS..in this case.
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:13
This is what we can expect from a troll. You know damn well there is no death threat, just a spin to attack me personally, any one can see that I am speaking about their banning. Nary a word about these thieves, just a personal attack on me. So transparent.
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:14
From: Jonas Pierterson Theres no exploit..just people WHO DON'T READ WARNINGS..in this case. Oh and thats not swooping then? You are simply in this thread to troll and attack, nothing more.
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Wrestling Hulka
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07-29-2006 22:16
From: Teddy Wishbringer Right or wrong, there has been a definate decrease in land sales. It's either one of two reasons.. too much land on the market, or summer. Being that I've been seeing record number of people online at any given time, I'm leaning toward the prior at the moment.. but we won't know for sure for a couple months. It might be that the weekly stipend gave people the add'l linden needed to purchase additional land around their First Land. When I started I had my eye on a certain spot in my sim and waited a whole month for stipend to match the price. I bought it at 2300L Nothing compared to today's land prices of course!
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Jack Harker
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07-29-2006 22:17
From: Jonas Pierterson No, you only invented and scripted devices to constantly keep an eye out for errantly and low priced land in their sim and inform you immediately. You bought land. Just like other swoopers did. You are just like those you accuse. Period. Deny it and you are a hypocrit on top of it.
You're wrong. Actually, based on personal experience with Weedy, I'd have to disagree. A while back, I was swapping land with a neighbor who set it to sell for $1, not realizing that it could be bought by anyone, or that it would show up on the listings imediately. Weedy showed up and bought the land too keep it from being taken, and then gave it back to my neighbor, and warned him about the dangers of transfering land that way, and showed him how to do it properly. She could have kept the land and re-sold it for the going rate, but she didn't.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 22:20
From: Weedy Herbst This is what we can expect from a troll. You know damn well there is no death threat, just a spin to attack me personally, any one can see that I am speaking about their banning. Nary a word about these thieves, just a personal attack on me. So transparent. From: Weedy This fucking asshole just signed his death warrant No spin needed. Death threat off your fingers. Sorry Jack, but I have to agree to disagree here..Weedy is a known swooper and nothing she says or does is trusted by me. For the record, Wrestling has bought land from me. It wasn't priced at 1 linden.
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Wrestling Hulka
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07-29-2006 22:20
From: Aaron Levy In all honesty, I've dreamed of winning the lottery and dumping a few million into SL to see what could/would happen. Would I buy it all, then immediately release it, bogging down the LL auction queue? Would I buy it all and then set it to sell for L$1 to anyone? Would I see how much L$ can be purchased at once on the LindeX before it breaks?
If you had $10 million, and you had to spend it on SL, what would you do? I'm not sure why anyone would risk money in the game. TOS clearly states that Lindens and Land are worthless. You'd be better off [delete]buying[/delete] investing a portion of Linden Labs. To those who are discussing other maters please move it to your own thread. Thanks
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:28
From: Jonas Pierterson Sorry Jack, but I have to agree to disagree here..Weedy is a known swooper and nothing she says or does is trusted by me. You are a blatant liar. Provide proof to support your accusations. Truth is you can't because you are siding with the scammers.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 22:32
From: Weedy Herbst You are a blatant liar. Provide proof to support your accusations. Truth is you can't because you are siding with the scammers. Anyone even freebie queen knows as a swooper has to be one. You also created scanners, and used them. You swooped, regardless of the prices you bought at or land you sold back. You swooped. I just provided proof, scammer.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:34
From: Wrestling Hulka I'm not sure why anyone would risk money in the game. TOS clearly states that Lindens and Land are worthless. You'd be better off [delete]buying[/delete] investing a portion of Linden Labs.
To those who are discussing other maters please move it to your own thread. Thanks Worthless? BS, This thread is about cornering the land market. You and some of your group members are ruthlessly bilking money left and right from residents. 100,000 lindens some days. Competition with people who hide behind exploits for greed does not provide a level playfield for ethical people to conduct business. It's wholly applicable to this thread.
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:38
From: Jonas Pierterson Anyone even freebie queen knows as a swooper has to be one. You also created scanners, and used them. You swooped, regardless of the prices you bought at or land you sold back. You swooped. I just provided proof, scammer. The word of a troll is not proof. You have no proof that I take land from anyone that was not intended to be sold to me. It's a lie and a reportable offence under the TOS. I did not create scanners. I modified a piece of code from these very forums. So once again you lie, purely to personally attack me. The ResMods will sort it out.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 22:42
From: Weedy Herbst The word of a troll is not proof. You have no proof that I take land from anyone that was not intended to be sold to me. It's a lie and a reportable offence under the TOS. I did not create scanners. I modified a piece of code from these very forums. So once again you lie, purely to personally attack me. The ResMods will sort it out. I tell the truth. Enjoy your suspension for false reports. And yes, you created scanners. I notice you didn't try denying using or swooping. Proving me right.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Wrestling Hulka
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07-29-2006 22:42
From: Weedy Herbst Worthless? BS, This thread is about cornering the land market. You and some of your group members are ruthlessly bilking money left and right from residents. 100,000 lindens some days.
Competition with people who hide behind exploits for greed does not provide a level playfield for ethical people to conduct business. It's wholly applicable to this thread. Who's the cute little troll who enjoys going off topic? You are! Anyways, as I was saying... I'm sure Lindens have the ability for lottery winners to invest into the service. If you feel like riding a market for a while I'd try Nasdaq and use disposable money here. Or donate to me =)
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 22:51
From: Wrestling Hulka Who's the cute little troll who enjoys going off topic? You are!
Anyways, as I was saying... I'm sure Lindens have the ability for lottery winners to invest into the service. If you feel like riding a market for a while I'd try Nasdaq and use disposable money here. Or donate to me =) Nothing you say will divert from the fact of your own actions in-world, by using gangster thuggery in an attempt to corner the market. That is what this thread is about. I didn't start it and I am commenting on it because that is my right. Derailing it with personal attacks is your tactic, not mine. Your actions have not gone un-noticed and your list of victims is getting longer everyday.
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Wrestling Hulka
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07-29-2006 22:55
For god sakes do you even know what a troll is? From: someone In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion, including the personal attack. I'm done with this thread because obviously Weedy wants to keep it off topic. It's a theme around here and I hope it changes quick.
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 23:00
From: Jonas Pierterson I tell the truth. Enjoy your suspension for false reports. And yes, you created scanners. I notice you didn't try denying using or swooping. Proving me right. From: Jonas Pierterson No, you only invented and scripted devices to constantly keep an eye out for errantly and low priced land in their sim and inform you immediately.. You are not right, in fact you are libelously accusing me of something I did not do. I did not invent scanners. Scanning and public land was around alot longer than me. I would never deny using them. I used them within the rules and NEVER took land from anyone who did not intentionally abandon the land. I have returned thousands of parcels in my years here. If you were truly concerned about swooping, you would focus your attack on the real criminals, but you don't. Yours is nothing more than a personal attack on me and no other reason. Your bias is obvious.
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Angelica Puff
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07-29-2006 23:02
From: Wrestling Hulka I'm done with this thread because obviously ... off topic. It's a theme around here and I hope it changes quick.
I think you might be right Mr. Hulka. In fact, I think I saw the very same thing happen in another thread I was enjoying a few days back  Even that SL Answers form seems to be cluttering up with this conversation these days. =( It was ineresting to read about the Land Scanner/Swoop Machine again. It's been a while and i'd almost forgotten. Thanks for bringing that up Jonas, a good point. (Although maybe a bit angrily put *giggles*) A.P
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 23:02
From: Wrestling Hulka For god sakes do you even know what a troll is?
I'm done with this thread because obviously Weedy wants to keep it off topic. It's a theme around here and I hope it changes quick. Nice try to divert the attention from your bad behavior to attack me. I have every right to post in these threads, which this one is about cornering the market. I bring facts to prove that a group of individuals are using exploits to corner the market.
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Weedy Herbst
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07-29-2006 23:04
From: Angelica Puff I think you might be right Mr. Hulka. In fact, I think I saw the very same thing happen in another thread I was enjoying a few days back  Even that SL Answers form seems to be cluttering up with this conversation these days. =( It was ineresting to read about the Land Scanner/Swoop Machine again. It's been a while and i'd almost forgotten. Thanks for bringing that up Jonas, a good point. (Although maybe a bit angrily put *giggles*) A.P Yet another land swooper arrives on the scene.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-29-2006 23:09
From: Weedy Herbst Yet another land swooper arrives on the scene. Yeah they should stay out of your airspace..only room for one swooper here..
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Nowun Till
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07-29-2006 23:17
So you have a personal issue between a few of you.
What do you need, a medal?
Get over it, deal with it between yourselves and/or start your own personal thread.
Suggested titles.
I can appear more of an idiot than you can. Or maybe, I put in more AR reports than you did.
Or your very own 'last word' thread in the sandbox
No wonder griefers and real issues being ar'd are not being dealt with in a timely manner.
The thread was a hypothetical scenario of all the land being bought and what would be the likey outcome, not a discussion on who bought land at a reduced rate or how they came to purchase it.
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Fade Languish
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07-30-2006 00:05
Some clarifications. Weedy's use of scanners was not the same. There was only one thing you could scan for. Public land. Scanners were not capable of detecting people's pricing mistakes, so Weedy wasn't using them to detect them, and profit off them. Weedy didn't invent anything, scanners simply used an LSL function that checked if a parcel was public (you know, how some people bang on about security systems being ok because it simply uses the tool LL provides - same logic). It could not detect anything other than public land. As I understand it, the LSL function, whatever you call it, wasn't removed - public land was. Detecting public land, whether or not you use a scanner for it (I don't know why people care about this anyway, it's SL, we automate whatever we can), is not the same as descending on a L$1 pricing mistake, and keeping it.
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