Notice to All - Not a big deal, but

it was pointed out to me that I misread the excerpts from the Linden Newsletter, and thought that all the stipends, etc. would be going away, totally, the end.

However, they said that the stipends, at least, will be reduced, but RETAINED.

So, sorry if I added to the confusion about it.

coco

and premium fees will be reduced or other compensation made. Otherwise LL will lose paying customers

Like I said elsewhere I think stippends and dwell will be thing of the past soon enough. It pisses me off to no end to watch them chip away at these meager amounts. Hey LL just take the tiny bit you give back and be done with it. I'm sick of hearing about it and I'm sick of planning for it. Do it and be done with it. Because this BS is lame.

Catherine

Ha Ha Ha... Reduced fees? You must be joking..
Believe it or not, you don't pay for your L$500 with a
premium account. You pay for the priviledge of
whatever LL is willing to give you.

If they didn't have a screwed up economic policy from the
beginning, none of these take-backs would be taking place.

But the days of the Welfare State are coming to an end.
No more free Stipends for Jonas..

Which will reduce the number of Jonas around. Is driving people away from SL a good thing?

I don't even reply to the troll anymore Jodina. He can't get it through his head that I pay for my stipend with my premium fees, so hes obviously incapable of following other logic and reasonable statements.

So you won't play any game that don't give you some free <insert a currency here> every week ?

Interesting... what are you going to play then ?

tell me how its free money kerunix

Its part of the premium package.

I pay for the premium package.

Nothing free about it.

You pay, like any game, to be able to play.

But... SL is a bit cheaper :
- because you can play it for free and they give you some money.
- or you can pay a monthly fee and be able to own a land, as a bonus you have a little more money than the free/basic account.
- if you want more land, you pay more fee.
- the more land you own, the more fee you pay. (and your stipend don't increase)

You pay to be able to own a land, not for the weekly stipend

understood ?

I pay to have the stipend, the land is only a bonus.

Understood?

If you pay for stipend,
so why don't you have more stipend when you pay more monthly fee ?

I pay 320US$ per month, should i have around 16000L$ of weekly stipend ?
that could be nice

Bcause the base fee covers the premium and the stipend. The land is thrown in as a bonus, and extra land costs you more.

Quite simply because the 9.95 USD covers the stipend and the tier allotment that goes with the premuim account. Any tier above and beyond that allowed with the premium is a separate fee.

The premium package is you get some money, and the ability to buy land. The end.

It doesn't say how much money you get. And would be irrelevent anyway, because it's quite obviously not worth $US 9.95 a month anyways.

$L500, 4 weeks in a month... $L2000.

$L2000 @ $L300/$USD 1.00 on Lindex = $US 6.66 .

They cannot increase the stipends to "cover the loss", as it would exacerbate the problem.

So if someday Stipends are done away with completely, where will new money come from? Will there never ever been new currency put into the market?

http://secondlife.com/whatis/landpricing.php


See also:

http://secondlife.com/whatis/plans.php

Reserve Bank, and others, may I point out that they CAN'T completely get rid of the stipends or/and joining bonuses?

If they do that, then there will never any new money coming into the system. (Aside from the occasional SL contest.)

Yet there will be money constantly going out - in terms of texture uploads, classified ads, etc.

Eventually there would be no money.

coco

I see it as the other way round, the base fee pays for the land and the stipend is the bonus. Which to me makes more sense, because it's the land that costs LL to provide, the L$ cost them nothing.

Actually, there is a way new money could come in. But I consider it to be the height of my own paranoia. And that would be a new system whereby residents earn Lindens by doing such things as getting outside companies to come into SL. Then the rest of us could buy the Lindens from those residents.

But of course that is way too sinister for me to even think of.

Meanwhile, don't expect ANY compensation in terms of lower cost for premiums, etc., when they reduce the stipends, traffic, and joining bonuses.

coco

And if LL doesn't give enough, the demand for premium accounts will drop, and the result will be the same as reduced fees.

That's the free market

Is there any game with a currency that doesn't give you a way to get some from them without buying extra for US$?
SL, on a Basic account.

At least land will be cheaper.

No, I don't.

I pay for what was promised when I signed up for my premium accounts. Part of that was the $500 stipend.

One of them doesn't even need to own land.

Now, some of you have said, "Don't be a fool, you could buy more Lindens through Lindex than your stipend gets you on that account." Well, now, that may be true, but see, I don't WANT to buy Lindens. I would rather pay for a premium and get the stipend.

If they remove some of the advantages of being premium, then those advantages will no longer be entering into the decision of whether or not to go premium.

Consequently, fewer people will go premium.

coco

Actually, Fade, that isn't accurate since you don't have to buy the 512 allotment (First Land) that goes with a premium account. First Land is optional.



I thought you were going to bed.....

And (I seem to be on a roll here, lol) because fewer people will go premium, fewer will buy land, and the divide between premium land-owners and non-land-owning basics will increase.

That is why I see the reduction of stipends, etc., as resulting in a greater divide between the haves and have-nots of the game, and between the investors and the tourists (for lack of better terms), and thus a reduction of the middle class.

coco

P.S. I don't think the Lindens particularly want a middle class, anyway. I think they would rather it be a "platform" of fewer players (players as in committed investors), with a constant revolving door of basics keeping the whole thing afloat.