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Vasudha Linden's Employment is Terminated

ReserveBank Division
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05-25-2006 22:08
From: Robin Linden
Someone raised the question regarding where Vasudha is. I'm sorry to say that unfortunately her contract expired so she isn't working with us any longer.

We continue to look for a full time economist, ideally someone with experience in the practical application of monetary policy! I'm hoping Alan Greenspan might be interested, now that he's free. :)

Seriously, we know this is a critical position and filling it is a high priority.


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I'm sure King Phillip is kicking himself in the butt over hiring that fool.
Massive Inflation, Linden Dollar going down the tubes, skewed population
data with Alt and Dead Accounts... Wow, Vasudha left you with a pile of poo.

I'll be waiting for my offer letter to arrive in the mail.. I'll require a US$100,000
signing bonus...
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05-25-2006 22:37
In my opinnion vashuda left before Robin's announcement which was about "LL will sell L$" etc.
Maybe you are wrong rbd, maybe they didnt like what vashuda said. She was the one who said "stipends must die". Maybe she told: "you must completely change the economic structure, with the current structure, it will simply fall." and they didnt like.
We cant know.

And it is weird that when i noticed she had left and asked why they answered to me "she is still working". She wasnt i am so sure. She was inactive for more than 2 weeks.

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05-25-2006 22:41
From: ReserveBank Division
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I'm sure King Phillip is kicking himself in the butt over hiring that fool.
Massive Inflation, Linden Dollar going down the tubes, skewed population
data with Alt and Dead Accounts... Wow, Vasudha left you with a pile of poo.

I'll be waiting for my offer letter to arrive in the mail.. I'll require a US$100,000
signing bonus...


The wouldn't hire you Alby, between the alienation of residents, vested self-interest and the hands in the cookie jar...SL would die sooner than it already is.
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05-25-2006 22:46
Maybe she found a better job.

However, I would not hire Reserve Bank Division if I were them. The L$ seems to be dropping like a stone every time one of his suggestions is implemented. And it seems that less people are logging in too.

Remember that if they don't log in, as they had to do once a week to get that stipend, they won't spend. People who are not spending won't buy L$.
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05-26-2006 01:17
From: Kazanture Aleixandre
maybe they didnt like what vashuda said.


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05-26-2006 03:03
From: Kazanture Aleixandre
In my opinnion vashuda left before Robin's announcement which was about "LL will sell L$" etc.
Maybe you are wrong rbd, maybe they didnt like what vashuda said. She was the one who said "stipends must die". Maybe she told: "you must completely change the economic structure, with the current structure, it will simply fall." and they didnt like.
We cant know.


It struck me that she really didn't seem to "get" Second Life. The idea of eliminating stipends of all kinds, including premium and replacing it with everyone getting *jobs*...that just struck me as something that wouldn't fly at *all* in SL.

It would have required reworking SL completely to turn it into more of a "game" where you have to mine gold or flip pizzas or something...tedious make work. The reason I'm in SL rather than one of those other places is because I don't want to have to pretend to eat, sleep, work, use the bathroom, etc. That's what my *first* life is for.

As for her other idea, getting users to create jobs for each other, that's not likely to work either. There are very few things that you can do in SL that pay enough to make you a living, and *very* few of those are things that can create jobs for others. Most pof the peple who do make money in SL are content creators, and even some of the best only make enough to support it on a "hobby that pays" level. There aren't that many jobs here because there isn't that much that unskilled labor can *do*, and the ones that do exist don't usually pay enough that people are likely to show up reliably to them.

(And after the lawsuit over land, who's to say that someone isn't going to turn around and sue because they had a job but weren't getting minimum wage?)

SL is esentially a tourist destination. Considering that you still need to support yourself in the real world, it can't really be anything else. There are a few places for people to make money, selling things to the tourists, or providing services (Like escorting.) to them, or selling them stuff. But most people don't show up to Disneyland to work, they show up to have fun.

Anyway, it seems likely that she isn't working with LL anymore because she was giving out standard economist answers that didn't really have a lot of bearing on SL as it actually exists. I hope that when they do find an new economist, that they find one who actually *gets* Second Life.
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05-26-2006 03:21
Robin, can u wait until i have my finished university? ^^
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05-26-2006 03:21
From: Jack Harker
It struck me that she really didn't seem to "get" Second Life. The idea of eliminating stipends of all kinds, including premium and replacing it with everyone getting *jobs*...that just struck me as something that wouldn't fly at *all* in SL.


This is an impossible position to fill actually, if you think about it.

On one hand, you need to have experience of Second Life to know the dynamics of the game and how the residents are likely to respond - because it's more of a damage limitation than anything else, picking the least bad rather than the best solution; you know a lot of people will be unhappy with whatever changes are made.

On the other, however, anyone from within the game is likely to have their own particular slant, and would quite possibly use their inside knowledge to give them an advantage for their own benefits. Certain individuals that regularly post in these threads spring to mind.

Perhaps what is needed is an 'economic advisory panel' similar to the resmods, taken from all walks and playstyles and changes on a regular basis.

Lewis
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05-26-2006 04:13
From: Lewis Nerd
This is an impossible position to fill actually, if you think about it.

On one hand, you need to have experience of Second Life to know the dynamics of the game and how the residents are likely to respond - because it's more of a damage limitation than anything else, picking the least bad rather than the best solution; you know a lot of people will be unhappy with whatever changes are made.

On the other, however, anyone from within the game is likely to have their own particular slant, and would quite possibly use their inside knowledge to give them an advantage for their own benefits. Certain individuals that regularly post in these threads spring to mind.

Perhaps what is needed is an 'economic advisory panel' similar to the resmods, taken from all walks and playstyles and changes on a regular basis.

Lewis


Lewis, I fully agree with what you say here. you seem to make more and more sense every time you post :-)
I think an economy panel made up of residents from SL would be a great idea!
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05-26-2006 04:28
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you seem to make more and more sense every time you post


Be careful. Too many comments like that and you'll be labelled as an alt of mine.

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05-26-2006 04:30
From: Lewis Nerd
Be careful. Too many comments like that and you'll be labelled as an alt of mine.


Too late :D
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05-26-2006 04:31
From: Lewis Nerd
This is an impossible position to fill actually, if you think about it.

It is, extremely difficult. You would need somebody from outside, who is nevertheless used to analysing virtual worlds and virtual economies, can come in and get a good idea of how SL works, and produce a report at the end of it.

In actual fact I think that being a RL economist would be a handicap. Too many assumptions to overcome.
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05-26-2006 04:31
From: Lewis Nerd
Be careful. Too many comments like that and you'll be labelled as an alt of mine.

Lewis
Well there is a similarity between your forum avatars... it's entirely feasible.
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05-26-2006 04:51
Is it just me or does anyone else find RBDs original post insensitive, offensive and amounting to a personal attack on an individual employed by LL ?

Please remove this tiresome & offensive individual from the forums, we've had enough of him. (It would be the first constructive thing anyones done to help the economy too)
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05-26-2006 05:09
From: Star Sleestak
Maybe she found a better job.

However, I would not hire Reserve Bank Division if I were them. The L$ seems to be dropping like a stone every time one of his suggestions is implemented. And it seems that less people are logging in too.

Remember that if they don't log in, as they had to do once a week to get that stipend, they won't spend. People who are not spending won't buy L$.




Hahahah... Am I the Scapegoat for the SL Economic Implosion? AHhaha
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05-26-2006 05:14
From: Lewis Nerd

Perhaps what is needed is an 'economic advisory panel' similar to the resmods, taken from all walks and playstyles and changes on a regular basis.

Lewis



Thats just as bad. Because SL is full of Socialists who feel that
welfare handouts of Stipends every week is acceptable and won't
harm the economy. Obviously they are blind to the current situation.
But a panel would most likely be bias to a Socialists Model.

Unless Jamie and I have a 50% majority on the panel, to insure
the the Socialists have to compromise to our demands of Free Markets,
end stipends or tier them back 90%, etc....

Any panel would need a counter balance, otherwise its just a rigged
panel with the illusion of being unbias.
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05-26-2006 05:16
From: CJ Carnot
Is it just me or does anyone else find RBDs original post insensitive, offensive and amounting to a personal attack on an individual employed by LL ?

Please remove this tiresome & offensive individual from the forums, we've had enough of him. (It would be the first constructive thing anyones done to help the economy too)




You must be a Socialist.... Call for the removal of people who
object to your views because freedom of expression doesn't
work well when trying to build a Utopia. Everybody must accept
the Utopian viewpoint, else it won't work. So what do you do to
make everybody accept it? You silence the opposition.
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05-26-2006 05:25
From: ReserveBank Division
You must be a Socialist.... Call for the removal of people who
object to your views because freedom of expression doesn't
work well when trying to build a Utopia. Everybody must accept
the Utopian viewpoint, else it won't work. So what do you do to
make everybody accept it? You silence the opposition.


Actually, I /am/ a socialist and don't think you should be banned from the forum. I believe in your right to make a complete and utter arse of yourself every time you touch the keyboard.

Way to exercise your rights. :D
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05-26-2006 05:30
From: ReserveBank Division
Any panel would need a counter balance, otherwise its just a rigged panel with the illusion of being unbias.


That's what you want though, isn't it?

The last thing you need is a fair panel, that will counteract the drivel you espew frequently.

It's a pity that Linden Labs don't listen to the real players, and instead listen to the capitalist trolls who don't add anything to the game.

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05-26-2006 05:33
From: CJ Carnot
Is it just me or does anyone else find RBDs original post insensitive, offensive and amounting to a personal attack on an individual employed by LL ?


It's not just you. There's no reason to be disrespectful to this person, or their ability. Especially in their absence, that's a bit weak. There's no reason to assume she didn't do a good job... they cited her contract had ended... maybe she chose not to renew it. The job seemed to be to provide a report on the economy and suggestions... for all we know that report could have been very well done, and they are acting on suggestions made. This is just rude.
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05-26-2006 05:34
From: CJ Carnot
Is it just me or does anyone else find RBDs original post insensitive, offensive and amounting to a personal attack on an individual employed by LL
No idea, he's been on my ignore list for some time now.
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05-26-2006 05:40
From: ReserveBank Division
You must be a Socialist.... Call for the removal of people who
object to your views because freedom of expression doesn't
work well when trying to build a Utopia. Everybody must accept
the Utopian viewpoint, else it won't work. So what do you do to
make everybody accept it? You silence the opposition.


It wasn't an issue of differing views. You made an offensive and disrespectful personal attack on someone. It's a matter of decency.
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05-26-2006 05:41
Yeah!, behave yourself, Jamie... Oops, I mean RBD!. You big meanie!!!
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05-26-2006 06:44
Suggesting the elimination of stipends was bold. Its what SL needs. I'm sorry to see Vashuda go.
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05-26-2006 07:00
From: ReserveBank Division
Hahahah... Am I the Scapegoat for the SL Economic Implosion? AHhaha


Why does this remind me of a cheesy villian from a B movie?

~looks to the name~

Nevermind, rhetorical question I guess.

From: Reservebank Divsion

Unless Jamie and I have a 50% majority on the panel, to insure
the the Socialists have to compromise to our demands of Free Markets,
end stipends or tier them back 90%, etc....


Then nothing would ever get done..and no, I'm not interested in your opinion.

Anyone want to see a picture of RBD and Jamie together? this was taken right after their partnership ceremony. Soon, they will buy a nice white picket fence - ON THE MOON!

Here you go!
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