Selling my items without owning a shop

Did you buy any of Peter Steptoe's goods?

Did you have anything useful to say about how people can organize sales in SL?

No.

Yes.

Well, sure, everybody likes to play Helpful Hannah and be praised for it, and assume that what they say is "useful" and "filled with good will".

But, honestly, it doesn't do anybody a bit of good to keep giving them free stuff, so that they never understand the cost of business. Nobody ever made it in SL by not charging and just freeloading, as much as that culture has been encouraged. Top spots in high-traffic, high-sales areas cost money for a reason, and a player should test them and be willing to pay for the least expensive spots for a short time at least without everyone piling on and accusing mall owners with the usual anti-commerce socialist dreck that infests these forums.

Show-and-tell events require land, or access to land, heavy advertising, heavy contacts and networks, and it is cruel to tell a newby to go do that because he will sit alone on his 512 lot or whatever with no one comiong to his event -- events are extraordinarily hard to work in SL. Sometimes you can find somebody already hosting a show and tell and get into it, but that can be hard, too.

Yard sales are something to watch, and you can usually get into them for free and rez out your wares and at least get some exposure.

Club owners looking for prizes to give away are going to tend to take more high-end, established stuff, not newbie stuff, even good newbie stuff. Clubs and high-end stores are among the symbiotic relationships in the cliquish SL world that can be hard to break into. Unless you are an exceptionally talented newbie, this isn't a niche for you. This opportunity can take awhile to work.

I think most talented newbies have been forced to enter a kind of invisible or not-so-visible "apprentice" system to gain entree into a very cut-throat world of fashion and design.

Wearing or using your item is a good idea, but you can't expect everyone to go around wearing their vehicle on their head. Having a ready-made land-mark is a good idea, and a land-mark-giver and notecard giver.

An advantage of renting land instead of a mall spot is that you can be in FIND PLACES. But even without that, stand on the mall where your store is, hit the menu on yourself for "picks"

Posting in "New Products" is one way to get a sale, but it quickly gets buried. It's not something to rely on alone. It's good to get your products on SLEXchange because they put "new products" as a rotated listing so it gets some temporary visibility.

Since you have a join date of March, I'm figuring you are either an alt, or just a talkative newbie who thinks suggestions should be inflicted on the forums without question. Try to speak from *your own* experience as I am doing and make explicit *what you yourself* have done either in the 2 weeks since you joined, or the years which you played as an olbdie, and the reasons that caused you to recreate with a new join date.

So sure, maybe some of what you said was useful, but some of it was completely unrealistic to be inflicting on a newbie -- unless of course you as a newbie already skipped all these steps due to uber talent and now can expect others to skip over them.

Ahaha, that's a great site.

So, Daisy, how would you pigeonhole yourself?

Nor do you expect a clothing designer to arrive at an event riding on their new shirt.

A similarly ridiculous (and greater) willful omission of common sense is inherent in your claim that a newbie can't host an event without owning land. Besides the Linden stages one might use, it's well known that many groups and landowners offer the use of their venues, and some even pay anyone who'll do so. Want to claim you didn't know that?


Gee, figured that out all by yourself?


Why? You running short of ammo?



You not only frame your negative adversarial argument on the basis of withheld valuable information, but you also give possibly damaging advice. Like suggesting one sell their own wares at a yard sale. Rules of every yard sale event I've seen say that'll get you thrown out. The only person inflicting anything on a newbie in this thread is you.

But you didn't write that post to be helpful to anyone, of course. And you failed at what you were really trying to do, too.

blaze:

Love to eat them mousies . . .
Mousies what I love to eat!
Bite they little heads off,
Nibble on they tiny feet!

- B. Kliban

As it relates to this discussion, I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that all of my for-sale content will soon be given away for free, and that any future content I make will also be made freely available to the SL community.

Thanks for the inspiration.

Take care,

-- Kex

Um....where's the withold valuable information? I don't get this. What is "witheld"?

Um...who died and made YOU Yard Sale Queen? Huh? There's no such "rule". I guess you haven't been to many? All our yard sales in Jai-Town are bring-your-own wares and/or used items to sell. And dozens of people do this, and not a single one of them said "Daisy Says You Can't And She Is Yard Sale Queen So Nyayayha".

Sorry about your reading comprehension problem. BTW, your shoelace is untied.

Sorry about your incoherence problem.

BTW, there are no shoelaces to tie in our virtual world. And thank the lord for it!
We are at last free of all those people like yourself who had to point out they weren't tied all this time.

great Kex always have loved your things.

everyone please stop arguing with Prokofy, he's feted ya know

Some people would rather run around laces a-flyin', to later trip and fall on their faces, than acknowledge someone with whom they have decided to have ideological differences has pointed out an objective truth. BTW, Prokofy, your epidermis is showing.

But Toy, think of how lonely and bored he'd be if no one would play with him!

Could you try to stay on topic, Daisy? I realize you're "new" but...do try to stay on topic.

Well, now that I'm done illustrating that your input on this subject has been self-serving and useless, I'd like to add that I'll be putting some freebie merchandise to my shop tonight.

You know, I haven't read most of the long posts... partly because they seem to be way off-topic, but mainly because they're not important enough to warrant my time. I will say this, however.

If it were me, I'd try the free options first. You can't get burned if you can't lose money, and if a pay spot looks good you can still try it later.

SLExchange only asks 10% of sales. Seems fair to me. Free malls seem fair, too. The owner of the land is getting the dwell for folks shopping at your spot, so when people shop, everybody wins.

Anyway, it can't hurt to register with SLE and see if it goes anywhere. The other sites may be good too, but I haven't looked at them yet.