Developers Incentives/Popular Places!!

I agree with that. I would say the same thing about ANY kind of carrot, not just real money.

I feel like a puppy dog with my owner holding a doggie treat over my head, and I'm trying all my different tricks to try to guess which trick I'm supposed to do.

I am not a puppy dog, I need to understand what it is that I am trying to accomplish.

That doesn't hold water with me, I look every single day after noon to see where are traffics are, we hold around #13 on average both on popular places and leaders board for traffic. On the traffic leader board (which mind you hasn't budged or traffic for that matter in 3 days now..broken/stuck) Spade Richelieu had held #1 traffic for a while now, but Jenna Fairplay got listed first on the incentive awards. (no offence Jenna just an example)
This is where the numbers don't match up.

We on Samurai Island are connected to Spittoonie Island, We watch both traffics daily, Trimda was listed for devolpers Incentive.

We hold more traffic on a regular bases than spittoonie. So tell me where how much land or how much traffic is actually being accounted for in developers incentives.

Sorry I know it isnt much money, but with a 200 dollar monthly bill any little bit helps.

I posted this origonally on the Linden Hotline and there is still no answer.

This month's total awards payout is USD $ $4,866.00. The number of recipients receiving Developer Incentive awards increased to 68 who will split the money in proportion to the traffic they received during the last month. More info about Dwell here

Out of 68 people and we are holding High traffic of top 20 places and leaders board top 30 for 2 months straight. how are we not qualitfied is what i want to know.

Emphasis mine.

So. Let's pretend Number One Dwellmaster has 10,000 dwell for the month. Now, let's pretend that the second highest dwell dude got 5,000 dwell for the entire month. DwellMaster One will receive twice as much money as dwell dude #2.

It's not a matter of places on the list, it's a matter of ratios. If you're making 20,000 dwell a day, but the next place up is making 400,000 dwell a day, you're going to receive a smaller proportion of the dwell.

Think of it as pie. The more dwell you accumulate throughout the month, the bigger piece of the pie you get. If someone has 50% of all dwell on their plot alone, they're going to receive half of the pie as a result.

LF

Ok I will give you the Wiki info. But, posts on the forums does not constitute true documentation at least how I'm thinking. You know maybe a nice pdf file or something like that. The forum posts are merely responses to people because they didn't say anything to begin with.

I believe the point is to use your analogy is House of Blade according to monthly dwells should have at least a piece of the pie but received none where some with lower monthly dwells still received a piece of the pie. No one is questioning the exact size of the piece of the pie just wondering why grandma didn't share it with us.

so in this little pie of yours that you are only guessing on,

the sim that i know only is getting only for example 2k of traffic and we are getting 8k of traffic for that month, we with 8k dont count?

do you see where it still does't wash with me.

If I have to take snapshots everyday for a month to prove this i will.

i want to see a real actual answer from a linden and numbers, not guessing from someone.

No offence your guess is good, but it doesnt pan out.

If you all stop sniping and go look, Jeskas just reposted about the Awards in the original post.

thanks willow for the heads up.

Nice to know that our opinions do matter to the Lindens because I was starting to lose faith.

Now an explaination of how they decide would be nice lol.

I am satisified that they finally admit they goofed up.

And - YAY! Im a DIA winner! Finally, after 9 monhts in SL. WOOT!

It feels great to be able to create a place people wants to stay at, and like Jvizzle says earlier in the thread, it's a rush to fill up the sim at an event and be flooded with IMs from people that still wants to get in.

But the fact that we still need to know exactly how this works remains.

I spent an hour with Lee Linden yesterday, and he ran a lot of reports and made it very clear that I didn't qualify. But he never explained why. Now i suddenly qualify anyway. Did he run the wrong reports for an hour straight? Or was he just bullshitting me all the time? Or were their queries wrong in the first place?
And what about February? I expected to win there too. I'm not going to make a stink about that now, but have they been running an non-working query for a long time?

We know nothing about how this error happened, and how can we be sure it won't happen again? Do we have to snapshot our dwell daily or is there a 'new' way of calculating it now, after we made a stink about it in the forums? WTF happened exactly?

Lots of questions, and no answers so far...
No response from my support ticket either.
And no response to my PMs to Jeska.

I'm not shutting up just because i finally made it to the list, you know
We can't have it so that the most vocal members do. We need clear, defined rules for qualifications. Adding some traffic numbers to the lists would help a lot.

-Yeah, I know, I know, I'm a PITA.

lmao ya PITA!

I'd like to know what happen to February too. If they are wrong about March theyare probably wrong about February too.

I think the only fair thing to do is to assign someone to backtrack the records.

I wonder how long they been wrong!?

I am not personally worried from before February because I can't say we have been in popular paces all that time.

But this won't be the end, going to keep screenshot tabs if I have to.

Yay Grandma decided to give us a piece of the pie! WTG Grandma.

I hope you will persist in this effort, too.

I remain bewildered by this process completely, and your experience of a Linden being absolutely sure he was right for an hour, and blowing you off, then having that mistake/judgement reversed the next day, is a cautionary tale, and it shows why players should speak up more.

I have a simple question. If your land is group owner and has dwell, can it still qualify for this contest?

First, everyone may want to re-read the explanation titled What is Dwell from our Policy Forum as a primer to understand the slightly complex system of Dwell/Developer Incentive Awards.

The most important thing to remember is the way Group-owned land figures into this system. From the description:

What happened this month was an error in the query which totals all of the dwell points for the Developer Incentive. The problem was identified and resolved and all of the proper award winners have been contacted about their awards. We apologize for this error and are currently working on a more robust system of tallying daily/month dwell which should result in fewer errors.

While we are looking at this, Feliccia Fevers was 17th this month. As the owner of PI this sounds reasonable. Feli sold PI 2 months ago only owns a small home site. *scratches head*

House of Blade of Samurai Island isn't Group Owned land, just for the record

My partners and I own it together but keep it in 1 name.

My question for you now would be how long has this error been around? Just this month alone or longer? I would bet it's possible this could have existed before now.

heres my question who keeps ppl happy in sl happy enough for them to go out and tell there friends they should join sl not the land mogels but the club owners malls designers are what truly make this game worth playing the fact that they are even on the list is beyond me they make there money buying and selling land the entertainment groups bring ppl here to buy there land yet as a club we make near nothing the rev was created not as a way to make money that was never our intent but for a place for ppl to have fun with the hopes that dwell would cover part of the tier but it seems that sl is more intersted in filling there own pockets then making a truly good game

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2002-10-11&res=l

Really didnt know grammer had anything to do with this ,guess I should just stay out of these forums and let you english majors run the show.

here here! Much agree on this one Cua.

If your intention in posting is to communicate thoughts to other people, then it is considerate to spend a little time to make your post readable to others.

If you are posting for self expression, then feel free to invent your own language. It can even be fun:see?

sl is the name of the software, the software has no pockets to fill.

LL is the company that writes the software (sl), it makes money by selling accounts and 'land'. They don't make games.

The users create all the content within SL. If you find a game to play, a user created it. SL is not a game, it is a virtual world in which you can play games if you choose. There are also 101 other things you could choose to do.



While I realise that the above statements have been posted many times before, (and argued over many times before) your entire argument is based on SL being a game and LindenLab not making it fun. LindenLab activly refute that SL is a game, they are attempting to create the "next generation world wide web". This does not stop you playing games in SL, but you must aim your "game play" concirns at the people that write the games.. ie, the users.

LOL

lol that had me in tears.

Okay, that almost made me spray hot chocolate onto my laptop.

Bravo, Introvert!

LF