Cannae Brentano
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Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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06-09-2006 14:22
I don't think you're ever going to get a bright line between selling free stuff and giving it away.
For one linden dollar, you can get up to 250 free objects in one box at the junkyard. Given that he takes the time to find the free stuff, stick it in a box and pay for the land, the income is minimal. I consider the dollar more of a service charge for the finding and packaging anyway.
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Ricky Zamboni
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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06-09-2006 15:13
From: Cannae Brentano I consider the dollar more of a service charge for the finding and packaging anyway. I'm sure any of the other freebie resellers would make the same claim about themselves.
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Sandy Barnett
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Join date: 19 May 2006
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06-09-2006 23:04
Ahh yes.....The scent of a great debate....<sigh> You just have to love that smell in the morning. <smile>
Murder is murder. It is that simple. Of course Murder is Murder!
That is like saying that the Sun is the Sun. Of course the sun is the sun!
Yet, there are more sources of light, and heat, than simply the sun.
A lightbulb, is NOT the sun. Yet it produces light and heat. A candle flame is NOT the sun. Yet it produces light and heat.
They are a lightbulb and a candle flame, respectively. However, they share common elements and characteristics of the sun.
Murder IS murder. Of course.
As involuntary manslaughter is involuntary manslaughter. Of course.
As War is War, and Genocide is Genocide. Of course. They share the commen element of human death.
There may be similar and consistent ELEMENTS linking them...but each IS seperate and has its own distinctive features.
"Freebie Reselling" - a common element of many different activities.
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Star Sleestak
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Join date: 3 Feb 2006
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06-09-2006 23:34
From: Ricky Zamboni Do you think used book stores should be shut down? How about used record shops?
Book publishers have made the same argument as you in an attempt to outlaw used book stores. Record companies have made the same argument to try to get rid of second-hand music stores. It has consistently been upheld that once a customer is in possession of the material, they have the right to resell it for whatever price they wish. Why should consumers in SL have any less protection? But second hand shops do not put their goods in new looking packages and sell them for 200 times the current market value to people who don't know any better.
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Star Sleestak
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06-09-2006 23:40
From: Ricky Zamboni So, what is the price limit? L$1 for a free item? L$2? L$10? What makes *you* the one who decides rather than the consumer?
According to your logic, it's okay to resell freebies as long as you're not too popular. If someone sells 100,000 free things a month at L$1 each, that's around $300. Should this person shut down their service before they reach that point? Maybe they can resell free items for L$500 each provided their vendors stop distributing items once they reach their monthly tier. Sound good? Frankly, I don't know why you're defending profiteering. But the current market price for 20+ freebie packs is 1L, selling one item from that pack for 20L is profiteering. And especially if someone is selling to those who don't know better. In this case, the consumer is getting ripped off because he or she doesn't know that she can get it at 1/200th of the price.
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Ricky Zamboni
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06-12-2006 07:19
From: Star Sleestak Frankly, I don't know why you're defending profiteering. But the current market price for 20+ freebie packs is 1L, selling one item from that pack for 20L is profiteering. And especially if someone is selling to those who don't know better.
In this case, the consumer is getting ripped off because he or she doesn't know that she can get it at 1/200th of the price. And I don't know why *you* are defending profiteering. By definition selling something freely obtained for anything above L$0 is profiteering. If the junkyard (clearly the benchmark for free item reselling) were selling free items for L$100, *that* would be the price you would be defending. So, *why* are you okay with 20 free items for L$? Why not fight for 200 free items for L$1? Now that new basic accounts start with *nothing*, you should be fighting to get the junkyard's profiteering owner to give everything away for free. As someone else said, nowadays it's trivial to find free vendors that can track your sales, and could easily be modified to refund the L$1 price ostensibly used for tracking purchases.
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