Land Barons: Take it up the Rump!

LL has finally vindicated all us peasants and dealt a blow to the mighty land Lords by eliminating telehub land!

Power to the peasantry! Power to Capitalism!

So sad to see all you land barons take it up the rump on this one.

Boo Hoo.

It must be nice to project blame on those more ambitious than you.

Wow...
extremely helpful comments....
:rolling eyes

is jamie blaze's dumbed down alt?

And you continue to stir it up.. Must you try and make everything seem 50 times worse than it actually is?

haha I always suspected that

Is that even possible?

How exactly is this a boost for capitalism? Seems like you're advocating state interaction to break up large corporations. Sounds like socialism to me.

I beleive I said it all with

Sorry, I don't get it.

How much time do some of these 'Land Barons' actually get to play SL, or do they spend all their time running round finding and selling bits of land, not actually having time to have fun?

Buy land, sell it and make a profit - sure - we've all done that. But hundreds, perhaps thousands, of plots of land? That just isn't right.

There is nothing 'ambitious' about a Land Baron..... they were just lucky to have money in the first place to invest in something, and as with most things the more money you have, the more money you make. Similarly, if SL closed, they'd lose it all, and be totally screwed. Any good business person will tell you that you don't invest all your effort into one single product, you should always have a backup plan just in case. I wonder how many of these big land players will cope if their investment disappered overnight?

I wonder what some of these people would have done without "daddy's allowance" and - shock horror - had to get a real job in the real world?

Lewis

Dumbed down? Excuse me, but have you seen some of his posts? A majority of them are utterly moronic, whereas mine actually have substance (for the most part)

No, telehubs were an artificial interface to begin with. Now that they are removed, the free market rides again.

Please, Lewis. Don't degrade yourself with this sort of petty low grade envious spite. It doesn't even have any truth at the centre. This is not how most of the barons started. It is not how they operate now. It is not in general the sort of age they are. It is, in fact, nonsense.

If you want to attack them, base it on something real and intelligent, unless you can't ?

Not that difficult, in fact.

Since I buy sims and sell lots, I guess that means you're including me as a "land baron" -- although I only carry $395/mo tier. Small potatoes compared to some.

You sound like you feel that we are somehow leeching off society. On the contrary, we provide a needed service -- the capital and work required to get a full sim on the market at a lot size and price people can reach. If nobody did this, the land would sit unbidded at auction because that's how land comes in SL. Unless a casual user --you, for example--would be willing to fork over the $1200 for a full sim and carry the $195/mo tier charge? But then, if you break it up and sell it to reduce your tier, then you'll be an evil land baron too.

In addition, you know nothing of motives. For example, the reason I buy and sell land is to pay the tier on the Vail Museum of Fine Art -- a completely free resource for all residents of SL that would cost me $40 a month in tier charges otherwise.

> Buy land, sell it and make a profit - sure - we've all done that. But hundreds, perhaps
> thousands, of plots of land? That just isn't right.

That's capitalism. I thought you were fond of capitalism.

> There is nothing 'ambitious' about a Land Baron..... they were just lucky
> to have money in the first place to invest in something, and as with most
> things the more money you have, the more money you make.

You don't know how much I make! Damn little with margins as thin as they are. I'm managing to pay tier and that's about it. And by the way, I work for a living -- 40 hours a week at a 9 to 5 job, and then I put in 40 hours a week in SL.

> I wonder what some of these people would have done without
> "daddy's allowance" and - shock horror - had to get a real job
> in the real world?

Sorry, but my daddy died over 20 years ago -- a broke, alcoholic truck driver. No silver spoon in my mouth. I work in RL and work hard. I work hard in SL too. Drop by the museum sometime and take a look. Oh, and I could use another docent (volunteer only, I'm afraid). I need a writer with some time ... oh, never mind, I've already seen a sample.

*SNORT*

OKAY IF YOU SAY SO

What Lo said!

I'm sorry. Who's ALT are you?

Haha yeah! What Lo and Merwan said!

Why are you attacking Lewis like that?

lol, It is always great when others think I'm suffering, and I'm getting ready for another beauty of a wave to ride. Power to Capitalism. There is going to be so much opportunity to profit in this for those with patience and rationality on their side. My only warning to those with telehub land, is don't panic. Granted your land will go down in value, but the worse thing you could do is make it worse by doing irrational things like selling to me for 2.0$L/meter2. If that is what you want to do then fine, but you are loosing more than you have to.

I know that most of the land owned by telehubs is no longer owned by land barons, but every land baron out there will help you get quick cheap sales, but if you want your money's worth be slow and methodical in selling your land.

Considering my investment is US$10, and my assets now are over US$1500 in value, I'd say that you don't have any grasp on what the land business is like. My guess is most people with or without money will lose money in the land business. For those that are good at what they do, there is quite a bit of money that can be had from hard work, crunching numbers, and skill. Capitalism allows for people to make a profit simply by being good at the gamble of playing the market. Everyone out there whining about how much money some land barons have sound like the annoying person at a poker game that lost all his money and is now upset at the people that have it. You come to the table with your land and your money. No one forces you to buy anything. No one forces you to sell anything. You do it by your own choice. Every land baron I've met in-world gives back land when people simply state they made a mistake. If someone can make money alongside of your conscious decisions, then there is no reason you should be able to whine that someone else made money. If they tricked you or extorted you in some way, that is different, but most land barons do neither of those.

templar,
i hope you are making more than 40$ a month flipping 2 sims worth of land. if you aren't making at least 300$ after tier, you should examine your process. there's better ways to make 40 $ a month in SL without all the work and risk you are exposing yourself to.

Dark,
If you blow your horn in your Azz instead of my ear I bet we would both be happy !

I have watched (your skill ) for the very short time you have been aboard.
out bid - hack up - mark up , ya theres some skill

Wash Rinse Repeat
sorry you didnt invent the wheel, just most of us get alittle more out of the game than
playing Monopoly

Let the man speak !
-Waves

Maybe before you get your panties in a twist you should do a bit of research on what a land baron actually is, the history of the term, and then whether or not you actually feel the need to defend them.

I'm bloody well tired of this prattling about saying that you guys provide some sort of service. You see there once was a time when land was auctioned off in various different sizes and anyone had the ability to win one and live happily ever after, that is unless some tard came up and built a club next to you and lagged you so much that you couldn't move. So, you'd go back to the auction page and do it all over again. Then came a few people who would watch those auctions like they were something special and buy up just about every plot. They had far more capital then us "casual" users.

There was lots of bickering back and forth because these plots were won for the sole intention of selling them at much higher rates. Then one day LL had the audicity to only auction off full sims ruling in favor of these horrible people.

So personally, anything that LL does against these people its about bloody time.

Is it "you guys" or "those guys"? Because I will happily and with a clear conscience defend what I do and how I do it, but no, it's not my job to play moderator of the world. If you have a specific issue with me in particular or how I do business, please do IM me in-world or send me an email (address in my profile) and I'm sure we can work it out.

My customers that I've spoken to seem very happy. They are getting nice lots in the sizes they need (even if they just IM me and ask me to split or rearrange lots) and at a fair price (lower than the "big guys", but that's neither here nor there).

And just so you know, _I'm_ bloody well tired of this mindless social democratic knee-jerk twaddle that anyone who is successful is automatically evil, being unfairly favored in some way or somehow subjugating the proletariat. Who are you to cast everyone from the same mold? But it's your right and I'm not trying to tell you what to think or do, so kindly return the favor.

As another poster pointed out, I "should be" making much more than just tier at my level. But you know why I'm not? It's because I price the land at the minimum I need to meet my goals, not at the maximum the market will bear. Yet I'm accused of not being socially responsible?

I swear, I've GOT to stay out of these forums!