Eliminate HUD from Snapshots, please!

Having to remove the HUD to not show it in snapshots also screws up any pics while using Xcite add-ons. While you don't stop what you were doing, you can't control it, either!

Make this a checkbox option for snapshots, like the one for the rest of the UI being in the snap. And make the default behavior to NOT show the HUD!

Another problem. This change renders useless any HUD's that allow you to use modeling poses for fashion pics. I want to be able to control the avatar's pose, so I can take a nice, clean fashion shot of one of my own avatars, for my ads. Now that is flat out impossible, because the HUD will show. Remove the HUD, and I go back to a default pose.

As a fashion designer, this really sucks. I'll have to go back to shuffling through raw pose animations in my inventory, and doing a 'play in world' for the one I want. Which does NOT usually get the model facing the right way. I haven't tried yet, but if that animation dialog shows in the snap, I'll really be upset!

I agree completely! I can't think of any reason why you'd want your HUD to show in a photo, but if some people do, let them check a box to enable that feature. The only HUD's I wear 24/7 are flight enhancement and av radar, and it's a pain to have to be without those all day if I'm taking photos.

It should probably default to off, with an option to turn HUDs on.

I've got to agree. I shoot pictures for the scene, not the scene with my HUD display. Having to dump my HUD tools to shoot is going to be a hassle. Having them in-scene should be an option for those who want it, and the default should be HUD *not* included.

Drop a script like this in your HUD:

integer CHANNEL = 7;
vector base_pos;
integer listener;
init()
{
  if(base_pos == ZERO_VECTOR) base_pos = llgetPos();
  if(listener) llListenRemove(listener);
  listener = llListen(CHANNEL,"",llGetOwner(),"");
}
default
{
  state_entry()
  {
    init();
  }
  attach(key id)
  {
    if(id) init();
  }
  on_rez(key param)
  {
    if(llGetAttached()) init();
  }
  moving_end() // Save after moving -- may not actually want this.
  {
    if(llGetAttached()) base_pos = llGetPos();
  }
  listen(integer chan, string name, key id, string message)
  {
    if(message=="save") base_pos = llGetPos(); // I'm right where you want me
    else if(message=="show") llSetPos(base_pos); // Now you see me...
    else if(message=="hide") llSetPos(base_pos + <0,2,0>); // ... now you don't!
  }
}

I think llSetPos is the more complicated way of doing it.

default
{
    state_entry()
    {
        integer child;
        for (child = 2; child <= llGetNumberOfPrims(); child++)
        { llSetLinkAlpha(child, 1.0, ALL_SIDES);}
        llSetAlpha(1.0,ALL_SIDES);
        llListen(42,"",llGetOwner(),"");
    }

    on_rez(integer param)
    {
        llResetScript();
    }
    
    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string msg)
    {
        integer child;
        list T = llParseString2List(llToLower(msg),[" "],[]);
        string arg1 = llList2String(T,0);
        string arg2 = llList2String(T,1);
 
        if (arg1 == "hud")
        {
            if (arg2 == "hide")
            {
                for (child = 2; child <= llGetNumberOfPrims(); child++)
                { llSetLinkAlpha(child, 0.0, ALL_SIDES);}
                llSetAlpha(0.0,ALL_SIDES);
                return;
            }
            if (arg2 == "show")
            {
                for (child = 2; child <= llGetNumberOfPrims(); child++)
                { llSetLinkAlpha(child, 1.0, ALL_SIDES);}
                llSetAlpha(1.0,ALL_SIDES);
                return;
            }
        }
    }
}

/42 hud hide

The commands are:

1. /7 save
   
2. /7 show
   
3. /7 hide
   

Who here feels "HUD in next snapshot" in the Snapshot dialog box to make it optional is a good idea?

Works here Torley..as logn as the default is no hud in snapshot..

I've noticed poseballs also show up now (they didn't before). Lets knock that out while we're on the issue.

Whilst a script to hide a HUD is a nice workaround in some situations, it just isn't going to work in many others. Particularly when photographing others with HUDS on.
HUDS are used for so many things now, and to have to stop, ask some-one to use the script to hide their HUD, or remove it, if they don't have a script in it, is unreasonable, and sometimes, again totally impractical.

I think that HUD in next snapshot, just like we have UI in next snapshot is the only real answer to this. It totally should be an off by default, and turn on if you want option, just as UI is.

The problem is that if the HUD uses Alpha in its interface (say, to hide or show display elements), your code will mess it up.

And I definitely agree... making the HUD optional and off by default is the way to go. My code was only intended as a temporary workaround.

And I think it's snazzy you did this in the meantime!

Jonas, poseballs visible? They will of course show up in a snapshot like all other ordinary, non-HUD prims. Unless this is a different situation you're referring to? You can hide most poseballs with a command like "hide" or "/1 hide" or sometimes clicking on the linkset... if this isn't the case, can you please give me a specific repro?

Kk anyone else who wants the option of "HUD in next snapshot", please say so... I'll be communicating this to other Lindens so express yourselves. ^_^

A checkbox like the UI option would be the obvious solution. I'll pipe up here, though it's what I said at the start.


EDIT: Wait! I take that back. The BEST solution would be to have a "Hide/Show HUD" option in the View Menu. There are many situations were you might like to hide your HUD, not just for picture taking. So put it up there for general use. We do NOT usually want to hide the entire UI (since getting it back again is a chore) so THAT option is burried in the Debug menu and there needs to be that checkbox in the snapshot window.

Add the Hide/Show option to the View menu.

EDIT-EDIT: Make it a sub-menu of three options:

1. View menu
   1. HUD Visibility ->
      1. HUD Always Visible
         
      2. * Hide HUD for Screenshots
         
      3. Hide HUD
         
      
      
   
   

Hmm. There sadly seems to be a lack of llGetLinkApha, plus the complexity of trying to work out if each side has a different alpha level set. (Although I really have no idea why anyone would do that.) My script cannot be corrected.

You completely win.

Well, your script is faster, but I wouldn't blindly drop it into random HUDs. Mine's safer for the average user... but I might use something more like your code in my own HUDs: I didn't know you could whack a whole linkset in one call like that.

*Raises both hands and flails them wildly*

I vote for making it optional.

The poseballs in question have been deleted..their script broke and wouldnt recompile..

freebies anyway

and yes, either give the option to -add- the hud or leave it out totally

That is really all we're asking for

/me raises hand. HUDs in snaps is not good.

ME! And I know several folks who don't go to the forums who also want to have it taken off. I also throw in my 50,000 alts and a toothbrush.

Yes please! That'd be great, and if it's separate from the "UI in next snapshot" dialog box, it would still allow people to take snaps of their HUDs without having the rest of the UI in the pic