Prevent new accounts from running scripts for 30 days.

That would be interesting

If both got their way you could Kill all noobies soon as they got here, becuase even if they could find a weapon they couldnt use it.

*Is in agreement with Draco18s*

Or we could pay the teens to do it, assuming they were fed and had to $2 Teleporter Fare

Is in agreement with RobbyRacoon....

And trolls can be very cute....
http://www.xs4all.nl/~morwen65/Images/Diversen/trol.JPG

Morwen.

By making all of SL's toys available to everyone just by signing up, we encourage newbies to stay on by making the experience enjoyable. What we need to do is find better ways to track down and snuff the griefers. You will never eliminate the group element that takes joy in the misery of others, but there must be ways to minimize its impact upon the community at large. Some people are gonna drive SL without a 'be a good person' license. When that person becomes a danger to the community, or even just a major nuisance, then they need to be dealt with harshly and removed from the community. If you cant play nice with others, you need your overblown, self centered, anti-social ass tossed to the curb, and there needs to be some system implemented so you cant get back in. What we need is a better way for those unable to use the credit check system to get verified somehow. Unverified accounts are the muck from which these Denebian slime devils crawl out of.

Is the griefer impact really that big?

I am now more then a year here in SL. I have been caged once (which I consider something minor), had a few matters with rude and hatred language and some people tresspassing the hospitallity of my land.
And it is not that I sit in the corner of my land only. I do come around.

Morwen.

I hear someone's going to do this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ENLcBSD6LI
"Tomorrow" to try and bog down the entire grid.

Create a proposal on jira and I'll vote for it.

Me too. The problem with all these kinds of proposals (along with the ones saying newbies shouldn't be able to edit objects, or wear attachments, or whatever the latest Terrorist Threat is) is that they keep the most productive people in SL from becoming interested in it, without doing anything to keep griefers out.

On the other hand, having to pay ten bucks for my first account didn't keep me away.

When I go to another country, my drivers license is considered valid... I can rent a car and drive it even without going through a test on the local rules of the road.

They used to do that kind of thing, back when you had to be verified to get into SL at all.

I paid for my account before the end of the seven day trial period in existence at the time. But I wouldn't have if I hadn't been able to see what it was really like. I recently tried Myst Online. Since all I could do was wander around a desert, talk to a robot, and try to solve a really badly implemented puzzle, I didn't log in a second time.

ONLy the griefers will bother to circumvent the controls.

Even if they can't run scripts, they can still grief you. And if they want to grief you they'll set up the throwaway account to get banned without losing anything of value.

You're mixing up two separate issues.

(1) You want to control the tools people use to abuuse the system. That's an attractive idea, but it's not possible without limiting SL so far that it's indistinguishable from There. Foir example, they've progressively nerfed "push" as long as I've been around, and people just came up with other ways to get the same result. Other restrictions that have been put in place have made vehicles increasingly worthless... without keeping people from sending giant hopping phalluses through your house when they see you're alone with someone you care for, or sending you into orbit on your own land even though you have push disabled.

(2) We need to make accounts worth trying to preserve. I agree. Requiring valid identification (or a sponsorship from someone who has something to lose if you misbehave) to get onto the main grid is my proposal for that. It serves the purpose without forcing people to buy into SL without knowing what it is, or creating more second class citizens. Trying to childproof newbies doesn't serve this purpose, and is likely to further hurt the retention rate for REAL customers.

I am now no longer regretting not-trying it.

It didn't keep all the griefers and grid-crashers away either, when there were no free accounts at all. In fact it was much worse back then. Nowadays, the enemy is the asset server.