Privacy, por favor

Yes, I actually made that suggestion, see my previous post above.

snippet below:


:: puts on invisibility cloak and flies off in the sunset ::

Cheers!

Artillo

I like the idea of being invisible but we'd still need a way to count # of AV's in a sim.

Pfft.

Well if thats all you want, that can be done now! I have both a personal invisibility cloak and an entirely invisible build that makes anyone inside it invisible.

If you want to see a quick demo, tp into Krittannia and walk into the little chamber just outside the telehub build.

And for the record, no, that's not really what I want in a privacy feature. I use it. It doesn't work. Idiots still think it's way clever of them to find you where you don't want to be found.

(700m up in your invisibility chamber, you here a 'thunk' on the roof and someone you've never laid eyes on before waddles over in a jetpack and says 'man this is hard to get to!'... You stop scripting, turn off 'Busy', click to open your history so you can read what they just said, and then wonder if it would be too obvious to say 'that's the f@*king point, a&%hole!')

I would like to see different levels of stealth allowed. The avatar invisible/cloaked/undetectable is just one part of a multi-pronged privacy scheme I think needs to be looked into

Remember that invisibility can be used to grief as well. Think: stalking, eavesdropping, breaking into somebody's house undetected by their scripted alarm system, etc.

'Invisibility' is simply not being rendered.

'Invisible mode' is nothing more than the game treating you as being offline (Name is greyed-out in the New IM window, on the map, and in the calling card list. Find says "No" for "Online:", and groups indicators show the last time you logged in normally, people who IM you get a "User not available message but you get the IM anyway, etc.)

As for when an invisible person sends an IM, I think the best way to handle it is for them to remain invisible, but have the user not available message not show for as long as the invisible person doesn't close the conversation.

Average people can't keep track of your location just by having your cellphone number. If calling cards were like cellphones, then people would have to build something to track you. They also would need to be within a certain distance from you.

Do you people even READ the thread before hitting reply? that was only mentioned what, 3 times?, in the messages that I skimmed.

I agree with the pro-privacy crowd, to an extent.

1. We should be able to be not-visible via calling card.
2. We should NOT be invisible by direct view or on the map.

If you're building at your lot, and a friend stumbles by... well, that happens in the real world too, doesn't it? On the other hand, all 3,492 people with your calling card shouldn't be instantly notified that you came on-line if you don't want to be noticed.

How about Calling Card Groups... we could have a folder for "Ignore on-line", "Allow to see my on-line status", and "Show me when this person logs in".

I, for one, am tired of the constant stream of "xxx has logged in" messages. If I wanna know when someone is in, then I'd like to have the option to set a flag to let me know.

And I think we should do away with the "track on the map" deal. I can't think of a single good reason for that.

Hi,

I'm probably the only person who kinda likes the no privacy thing.

I don't abuse it though. When I log on, i can immediately see and find any of my friends. If they are busy then I find something else to do.

I've been stalked and botherd at times, but I usually get around that with just not paying attention to who is trying so hard to score. Eventually they get the picture.

So why does not having privacy not bother me? Cause this is SL and not RL. I'm having fun exploring a different more open personality and totally different environment from my normal existence.

I'm an open book and have nothing to hide and I really can't do anything that's gonna be too out of line. I mean really it's an avatar. Beyond the confines of the game what can it do?

If someone finds me out of the blue and I'm not in the mood to chat or im busy I usually try to be polite and simply say that at the moment I'm engaged in this 'whatever I'm doing' activity. I'll get back w/u later if that 's ok.

Im not that popular, and i don't go to a lot of parties or hang outs. just hang w/friends and try to have fun, build some stuff and play w/scripts. So I don't have a lot of problems

Peace

wizzie

Wizzie - You sound like a very well adjusted and wise person .

I would say, though, that this isn't about "hiding." It's about controlling one's own SL experience. In RW, for example, I hate knowing that there are hidden cameras all over the place (stores, roadway intersections, secure building, etc.) that track my comings and goings. Unfortunately, there is little I can do about this phenomenon.

In SL, it's more about choosing when to engage, and when to seek solitude. My particular parcel happens to serve as a night club and as a mall. There is constant foot traffic. When I am in build and/or script mode, it would be nice to go into "stealth" mode so that I a) am not obligated to chat with everyone who walks by, b) passers by aren't offended by my lack of social graces, and c) I get stuff done in a reasonable amount of time so that I can re-engage with the world when ready to do so.

Cheers,
Paolo

Absolutely not!

Without this feature, I wouldn't be able to run into Cris and Taeja... or stalk Zoey and Kris!

Kidding aside, I think this would be a great feature in preferences. I don't mind people tracking me most of the time... but sometimes if I want to catch up with an old friend, or just get away from it all and run away to Taber, it would come in quite handy.

Even notice it doesn't really work though? If I'm trying to figure out where a group of friends is, I'll often use this feature, and typically the red circle on the map isn't even on a green circle. Its at the sim border edge if you're lucky... or completely wonked off in unknown space!

Regards,

-Flip

thread dialogue ignored and petition signed anyway

I AGREE with tracking being optional when handing out Cards

I AGREE with Online Status notifications being Optional on Cards

I DISAGREE with green dots on map being optional


If u are wanting privacy and are on your land block us all out.

Theres plenty of those horrible redlines anyway. and u can set and remove at your whim.

IF you would like privacy in text, use the IM system.

If you would like solitude on your land, set it to block/orbit incoming avatars.

If you would like to not be shown on the map... log off.

LF

Pop in your "The Sims" CDROM. Instant privacy!

If life were only that simple...

Again, it's just a simple show/hide mode setting that we're after.

Regarding point 1, text hasn't been the focus of this thread.

Regarding point 2, that's impractical for those of us with public-use areas on our plots.

Regarding point 3, not an option.

Regarding point 2, then maybe you shouldn't be doing "private" things in a public place, eh?

Regarding point 3, it's always an option. 100% privacy too.

LF

Is it your intention just to irritate? I think this is a valid feature request. You indicate otherwise. Can we leave it at that?

optional green dot = others' privacy infringed upon

seriously... if my neighbor logs in and I'm talking to my friend about, you know, STUFF... and they are standing near the edge of their property... I want to know they are there.

Good point. Maybe the thing to do, then, is to restrict invisible mode to one's "home" as defined in preferences.

Again, the idea is just to be able to get some stuff done without interruption, kind of like the DND (do not disturb) button on my phone here at work. I am concerned about the potential abuses, as well, but there must be a happy medium. I mean, already, people can go into God/Ghost mode and wander around without being seen (though I believe they show up as a green dot). Problem is, it's not easy to switch in and out of that mode.

Anyway, smarter people than me are sure to find a way for this to work.