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OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
05-02-2007 10:04
OK, we all have been screaming for a long time for LL to make changes to MANY things. This is why I started the Second Life Business Bureau.

The SLBB functions very much like the Better Business Bureau in RL, However, because this is SL we can mold this organization into something better! Something where you can go to the website and SEE for your self who you should be doing business with.

We function by membership and we do make referrals to ONLY SLBB members. We have never received a complaint on ANY member in the SLBB, and have been able to help recover over 72K Lindens.

Many of our members do thousands of USD transactions monthly and no complaints!!

LL is only selling computer space. The want us to control our own SL community! I started the Second Life Business Bureau back in February and I am really trying to make some changes with the help of many.

We are exposing some real scams and real problems due to ethics in SL, but this is a HUGE problem that has been allowed to run free since the beginning of SL and will always be there, the difference is WE'RE TRYING! to make changes.

Robin Linden has agreed to be a part of the board. Board Meetings are every first Thursday of the month at 9am SLT.

We take complaints and post them on our website. www.slbb.biz - We list the name of the person being complained about and what the complaint is. Please understand that we are not just putting peoples names up there, we investigate the claim to make sure it is legitimate.

We are now going to black list potential scammers. If there is someone that is potentially or has scammed someone but there is nothing that can be resolved from the issue then send me the name on a note card. I need a description of what the scam or potential scam is!
Steve Mahfouz
Ecstasy Realty
Join date: 1 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,373
How do I join ?
05-02-2007 10:10
I've been looking for a link on your site.
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OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
How To Join!
05-02-2007 10:15
From: Steve Mahfouz
I've been looking for a link on your site.


I will drop you a kit, they minute we get back into world! The Website is being redone and will have a place in the future to join from the site.

The membership fee for 1 year membership is L$1000 or L$100 per month.
Faybot Foxley
Morgana Le Fey's Landbot
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
Posts: 166
05-02-2007 10:18
Send me one also please. I would like to check this out.
OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
Making a list !
05-02-2007 10:20
Making a list to send kits to as soon as we get back in world
Spotz Spork
Registered User
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 71
05-02-2007 10:29
I'm also interested. This sounds like something that would be good to look into for my particular business.
Clarissa Cordoso
Registered User
Join date: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 15
05-02-2007 10:33
Send me one as well please :)
OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
05-02-2007 10:35
We are located at the Business Bureau Isle, Ethics City... I got ya on the list Steve, Faybot, Spotz and Clarissa
Denise Bonetto
Registered User
Join date: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 705
05-02-2007 10:36
They are also available on 'Business Bureau Island', the big tall building ;)

*reminder to self, I must creep round Olive to change my business name registered :p
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Ashlynn Dawn
Shopping addict
Join date: 1 Feb 2004
Posts: 508
05-02-2007 10:47
I'd also be interested in learning more...checking out the website now. Have a few questions that I'm hoping it answers.
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ArchTx Edo
Mystic/Artist/Architect
Join date: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,993
05-02-2007 10:51
This OP is obviously an advertisment for your business and as such is totally inappropriate for it to be poste here. This doesn't say much for the ethics of this "better business" organization.
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OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
This is not an advertisement!
05-02-2007 11:05
We do all our advertising in world my friend, this is for people in this forum to see there are people out in the SL community TRYING very hard to make a change, why do you object so to this?
OliveEue Sholokhov
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 36
05-02-2007 11:10
Ethics (via Latin ethica from the Ancient Greek ἠθική [φιλοσοφία] "moral philosophy", from the adjective of ἤθος ēthos "custom, habit";), a major branch of philosophy, is the study of values and customs of a person or group. It covers the analysis and employment of concepts such as right and wrong, good and evil, and responsibility.
Tyci Kenzo
K2 Owner and Designer
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 285
05-02-2007 11:12
if its so ethical why do you charge? that to me says anyone can buy themselves a good rating
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2fast4u Nabob
SL-ice.net
Join date: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 542
05-02-2007 12:02
I noticed an interesting comment in this complaint:

(the relevent text follows:)

AS OF 3/14/2007 Mr. [name removed] has requested that the we no longer contact him. Due to the TOS of Second Life, we will honor his wishes and no longer contact him.

I understand that the SLBB must comply with the TOS, but how does this improve things? What do you do that others cannot do on their own, other than listing member companies and complaints.

That (listing companies and complaints) clearly did not help in cases one through six - case seven was resolved, but six people still lost quite a bit of money.

-2fast
bladyblue Bommerang
Premium Account
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 646
05-02-2007 12:21
I like the idea of a SLBBB. We can start to move away from the 'wild, wild, west' reputation we have and begin to become a serious business platform. But I did see that a response to a complaint was edited and re-worded to sway public opinion toward SLBBB's paying member. This concerns me.

I do hope that with Linden involvement there will be a fair and unbiased panel put in place of the OP being judge, jury and hangman.
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Amra Hian
Registered User
Join date: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2
05-02-2007 12:37
From: Faybot Foxley
Send me one also please. I would like to check this out.



oh heck wrong guy
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
05-02-2007 12:40
From: OliveEue Sholokhov
Making a list to send kits to as soon as we get back in world



hi there can I get a kit as well I had been to the site etc and well i know what it costs and what it is and stuff but had been looking for a way to apply can you send me info as well please

thanks
Faybot Foxley
Morgana Le Fey's Landbot
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
Posts: 166
05-02-2007 12:49
From: Amra Hian
oh heck wrong guy


What?
Ravanne Sullivan
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Join date: 10 Dec 2005
Posts: 674
05-02-2007 13:13
Please send me a kit also.
Thank you
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Darien Caldwell
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Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,127
05-02-2007 13:21
The only thing that bothers me about this site is, while the Accused business' name and owner's name is clearly stated for all to see, the accuser's name is nowhere to be seen. I think it's only fair to be able to judge the reputation of the accuser as well as the accused in all cases.
poopmaster Oh
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 917
05-02-2007 13:38
This whole post is VERY UNETHICAL and breaks the rules of the forum, this is Resident Answers, not 'Advertise my fake business' forum.

how can anyone trust a company that tries to build it self on trust when it breaks the rules in something as simple as the message board......
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Watermelon Tokyo
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Join date: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 93
05-02-2007 14:00
Is this i non-profit organization? Where do the membership fees go?
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Spotz Spork
Registered User
Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 71
05-02-2007 14:38
lol @ people whining about ethics.
Isablan Neva
Mystic
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 2,907
05-02-2007 14:51
From: Watermelon Tokyo
Is this i non-profit organization? Where do the membership fees go?


Exactly my question. There are thousands of businesses in SL, if only 100 sign up at $1000 per that provides this organization with $100,000L. Sorry, but something smells there. Also, an awful lot of the small businesses in SL can't afford $1000L, they barely cover their mall rental fees, who's to say they aren't ethical?

A $100L membership fee I could see, but $1000L heads into scam territory in my book.
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