Proposed Changes to the Forum Guidelines: Please read post below before voting.

With option number 2, remember also to take into account those who voted for it, but thought it was not so much "more strict enforcement" that needed to happen, but that a faster response time based on the current rules would be nice. However this was the only option that came even close to touching on that opinion. Here are two examples of this line of thinking, and of course there is no telling if any of those that voted and did post felt this way also.

I voted for all of the options to make it more scientific. So did my alts. Thanks for the opportunity to let us be heard!

Um, no. You're not representing anyone but yourself. And even if that 10% elected you to represent them (which they did not), they are not 10% of the forums, they are 10% of the people who both:

1) Read the post
2) Cared enough one way or the other to respond

Finally...



You obviously have never had any experience, exposure, or education on scientific method.

The very act of postulating, inferring, and basing conclusion upon those unsupported assumptions and inferences you *feel* demonstrates your motivation was never to determine the general level of interest (i.e., clearly demonstrated to be none), but merely to shore up SOME level of "support" for your position -- a little warm blankie you could clutch while you're playing victim.

This entire little piece of agendaism presented as 'analysis' neatly demonstrates this reality.

In my opinion, you are very likely the most intellectually dishonest person I have ever seen on a forum. And tootz, that's saying something.

Ah well. Back to ignore you go.

Maybe you should start the reform with yourself, then branch out to others.

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Sweet irony. The only post edited for personal attacks in the whole thread was yours Cocoanut, maybe a little inward reflection can help you before you project your "ethics" and "values" upon others.

As a lurker on these boards these past few weeks I've been following a lot of the discussions lately and I'm actually quite amazed at how easily hostility will start in a thread here. Take this thread for instance. Theres really no need for it to be hostile at all and yet the snide remarks are creeping into it more and more.

I've seen some posters tell Cocoanut to "get over it". Well maybe its time some of you take your own advice too and get over it. I have no idea what this Prok did that was so bad that some seem to feel so threatened by the mere presense of a poster on the board that still considers him a friend. But no matter what he did I don't see how that justifies some of the posters own behaviour now. It takes more than one party to argue and maybe more people should examine their own participation in the hostility around here.

And what is so bad about this poll? This is a forum and discussions are allowed aren't they? Yes Lindens have worked hard on setting rules but I doubt very much that a company today that said "Well we know how to do things and if you don't agree we don't wanna hear about it" would survive very long. The majority of the people that responded to the poll don't want any changes. But there are also those who have chosen 1 or more of the other alternatives in the poll. And why would Linden not want to know that? If for no other reason than to be aware of the fact that not everyone is happy around here. And to be able to find tools (even if others than the ones suggested) to change that. Even the posters themself can learn from a poll like this. It seems Cocoanut did - which maybe some of you would see if you took the time to actually read her posts about her thoughts instead of just scanning it for material to use against her with the goal to ridicule her.

When I first started reading these boards I didn't quite understand why Cocoanut or some of the other posters were talking about pack behaviour. But you know after having lurked here, a while now, a pattern is starting to stand out really. And yeah I'd have to agree now. There is a tiny little group of people that seem to just compete in who can shoot off the most subtle little ironic comments targeted at a few select victims on this board.

Some go out of their way to find handy little "snippets" from previous posts to use against posters at every chanse. Makes me wonder sometimes if these few are making a habit of looking up all posts made by a certain poster each day only to find new fuel to add to the fire. Now I don't think the pack is a big group but considering how persistent they can be with their remarks and ability to twist words and find new creative ways to hurt I have no doubts that someone being a target for a while will feel very attacked even by the posters that definetly doesn't want to belong to a pack and doesn't mean to be hurtful themselfs. And of course when these innocent posters start feeling accused of being a pack and find that the responses they get, from the victims of the actual pack, are hostile they will respond with hostility themself. And so the flames keep on burning.

Its funny how a few people can have such power really. I'm sure they are enjoying the show though cause everytime things get to calm around here they show up and add fuel to a thread to heat it up a little. Some people have a very strange way of amusing themself. I don't think I'll ever understand what is so fun about finding new creative ways to hurt others, for a cheap laugh, in hopes of gaining popularity.

With that said I doubt very much that I will be lurking here for much longer. The game so far hasn't impressed me since I don't have an urge to build things and find the interface of the game quite a hassle to deal with. I've been mainly just finding things to sit on in game. And these battles on the forum since I began reading here hasn't really helped much in my struggle to find things that makes the game worth trying again.

I won this competition like 6 months ago.

No one noticed because, ironically, it was too subtle.

Jillian, this thread is dangerous, and you should seek cover.

There are people making fun of people who are reading other people call out the people who are making fun of them while other people use soundbites of these people's posts to repetatively denounce the merits of the same people's concurrent but unrelated posts that are actually veiled potshots at the original people who are making posts about posts about post about posts about those very same people.

Good luck in your future journeys!

edit: Also, it's not so much a game as a multi-user collaborative 3D environment, as there are no dragons to slay nor experience points to accrue. It's like the web, with action figures!

I'm sorry if you feel this way. I don't know what more I could have done to show my opinion without doing some of the things you seem to be holding me to task for. I know you did not say me specifically, but your comments seem to be aimed at everyone and I can only speak for myself.

While I kind of want to respond to all of your points, I don't have time or patience right now to do it proper justice.

But to me, and please forgive me if I offend you or you see this as an attack, what you are doing is no different than what you are accusing others of of doing. We are all just expressing our opinion. I am not a part of a pack. Just because the majority shares similiar views, doesn't make them a pack.

I find it rather sad that you reduce people's motivations to such a base level as "amusing themself". Were you amused when you wrote this post denigrating the other posters? No, I don't think so, I think you were just expressing your opinion.

I have always said Coco has the right to post as she pleases. But I also do not want the rules changed back to the way they are. I have a vested interest in this. And I have the right to post my opinions as well. Sometimes it gets tiring to constantly have to say, I do not want the policy to change. But like voting in real life, those who don't vote/stick up for what they want are giving the other side more control.

I am sorry your experiences in SL haven't been very good. Perhaps that's another reason you don't really understand how much we care about these issues. I love Second Life and I love the Forums. I feel like I need to protect myself from any policy changes that will take away my enjoyment of both.


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*swoons*

I agree 100%

Oh, this so has to be used in SL's advertising.

I've been here for about two months. I find SL to be pretty boring, but the battles on the forum seem to be the best entertainment pertaining to SL. I just go to SL now to check-in with a friend in-game or occasionally to see some event. The U2 thing was cool. It would be interesting to see some of the feuding here settled in-game in sort of a "celebrity death-match" format. Like HiroQ vs HiroP mud wrestling over use of the name Hiro. Or maybe Anshe in an all-comers match. Coconut vs Aimee. Possibly a weekly event? Plus, like the U2 thing, there need to be T-shirts.

Yes, but I will only grant permission if Electronic Cowboy Enabran, with his kung fu grip, is given top billing.

(This would have more appeal, I think, than Deus Ex Enabran (with authentic nano augmentation!)

I very much have. Have you?

coco

If logging onto a game (or forum) was such a painful experience for me (for any reason!), I'd stop logging in day after day and maybe find another game that didn't make me feel so bad. Infact, I've done so many times and it works like a charm. There's not much to be gained by trying to change something you detest when there's so much more out there to choose from. You can't make the heartless suddenly care. You can't make the blind suddenly see. We're all strangers really, and to let strangers have such an impact on your life is irrational. No one here holds your heart or any part of your life or wellbeing in their hands, so what are you fighting so passionately for when pulling the plug is so simple? I'm trying very hard not to remain unbiased as I type this, but I can't work up much sympathy for people who subject themselves to what they see as abuse day after day then don their victim hats everytime they make a post. You have control over where you choose to go, who you choose to listen to, what you read, and what you play.

You obviously do not have, if you think your feeings have any place in an objective analysis.

But silly me, I forget who we're dealing with here... objective analysis?

(deep breath)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

(another deep breath)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Whew. Ok.

Looks like I forgot the ignore button. I'll make sure not to overlook it now... grats to thee on yet another perfect waste of time, Cocoanut. Good luck on your 'Help me, help me, I'm such a innocent wounded/slandered' campaign. You're going to need it.

THE THUNDERDOME!!!

TWO GO IN, ONE COMES OUT!

*chants: TWO AVs ENTER, ONE AV LEAVES! TWO AVs ENTER, ONE AV LEAVES! TWO AVs ENTER, ONE AV LEAVES!*

Aww, who keeps bumping this thing. Aimee?! I'm disappointed in you. Only bump my self-indulgent threads.

Damn, she uses a Stihl - we're in big trouble now!

Me vs Aimee? I wouldn't stand a chance! I'd be beaten to death by the wings alone! I hereby concede any and all matches with Aimee!

coco

(Note the Smilie - although I don't think Aimee would have needed to see the smilie! )