Serious question about LIFE.. maybe TO serious BUT I am curios to know more..

Nice imagry.

Whow! Hamaar, a real term paper

Aggreed. I still would love to see more possibilities (or simple solutions) for expressing ourselves with gestures and facial expression. Even within the restrictions of SL "more" is possible!

I am not sure of that. At least not in the long run. Yes, there is a great urge to go to that next step. Always ... when you've found someone that touches your soul. We ARE physcal beings! But I am sure people will find a way and adapt - emotionally - and there will be very intense relationships where the partners never meet. This may be hard to imagine for us now - even for us residents of SL.Agreed, too - for now. But I am not so sure if "online romance" necessarily has to "replace" physical one. I can imagine a not so distant future where at least some people have a stable and happy relationship in RL and one "in the Metaverse", sometimes with the same mind behind it, sometimes not. And even in the second case this might not be cheating. Because the relationships are different. None is "worse" than the other. My spouse know about my Love in SL. We talked about it ... lots. And we agreed that it might be good for our marriage, not destructive. And No, I am not "playing".

And in the long run - yes I am an avid consumer of SF literature - I am not even sure, if the life in the Metaverse might not be more important to some of us than the so called "RL". Read some of Gibsons books or - even mor interesting in some regard -"Eon" or "Otherland". I am not sure, if what is decribed there is possible. But I would not rule it out ...

Small things but GREAT feelings..

The ”small” but VERY important things in daily life as.. a touch... (cam be everywhere of course) a fast kiss.. holding hand.. staying at the side.. body to body.. eyes seeking the lover.. a fast smile.. .and lot more.. are nearly to non function in Sl right now.


But more and more will be added - I am sure of that.. al depends on the ”market” of course.. but also our demand for them all.. start to ask for the small things.. again and again and the scripters will u-stand that all are not fast sex...in all combinations..

Computer software/Hardware are all the time developing so a day our avas will of course be able to do more.. and i hope that it will be easier than today..


Sweet Craig Altman has done two very fine tuned and romantic balls.. for me (for us - Dei and me) hold and hands and see the other in eyes.. and now hold hands and stay beside each other.. both very lovely ones. VERY! I am not sure if they are in his stores but if not Im him)) Craig Altman

We need more of those ”small daily” situations as long as they are not built in directly into our body (avas)

Yes Craig has more of the small ones.. eating for example..


We make a move for the small daily balls dont we??))))

Even though it is not really "new" anymore an excellent treatment on the effect 3D virtual worlds have on us humans is contained in Cory Ondrejkas (Lindens) paper CHANGING REALITIES (http://www.themis-group.com/uploads/Changing%20Realities.pdf).

It focuses mainly on the economic side of systems like SL, but includes a brief explanation on why 3D worlds and the personification as an avatar have so profound effects on the feeling of "being there".

Most interesting is the stated opinion (that I see as a fact), that it is not THAT important to have high tech gadgets like head mounted displays or data gloves to get that feeling. Most important is a believable 3D spatial context and (even more important) the communication with others in a shared (consensual) environment.

The thing that most people forget or don't even factor in while thinking of online relationships, is the constant sharing/communicating that must happen.

This _was_ touched on with the first date example, however I'm going to say it a bit more plainly. In real life, you can get away with not talking. You can stare out a window, or you can let your body speak some for you. In an online medium, you don't have that option. If you want to get to know someone you _have_ to talk to do so. This speeds the whole creating intimacy/sharing/bonding part of the making friends. You have to continue to disclose more and more info about you in order to keep the connection going.

That being said, I have found, unlike most chat mediums I have been in previously, that sl does allow you to get to a point where you can be with someone you're close with WITHOUT talking. Maybe they're building, or maybe you're building, or you're in a dozen ims, or etc etc. And it's enough that you're in proximity with them. That is the biggest main difference I have noticed between the relationships I form in sl and the prior cyber relationships I formed. There is the space for silence.

How can I sufficiently concur? Because that's been my experience, too: an eerily physical response to SL. Like when my avatar's been walking for a while and, even though I'm doing nothing more than pushing my fingers on the arrow keys, I feel like I've gotta sit down and take a restor ride my bike instead. Or when I go into a hot tub (especially that one on Parrot Island ), I feel much more relaxed in RL. And it's not that I'm pretending or playacting or whatever: there's something deeply psychosomatic going on, the body replaying, as best it can, sensations that SL's 3D environment sparks the memories of.

I expected a lot of things from SL --- which expectations have been mostly met or surpassed, ty very much --- but I never expected this.




YES! The sense of PLACE über alles!

We can't really smell this virtual world; touch must be inferred from a combo of sight and sound; and what's the worst absence is that of proprioception. But still, the amount of immersion we already obtain is remarkable ... and it bodes well for the future of this and other subsets of the Metaverse.

Thank your for that beautiful example, for why a 3D consensual space is really more than a glorified chatroom. I loved it ...

... if only because exactly that did happen to me two days ago. I just sat there while my Love was building. I admit, that I not only sat there, but did a little work IRL, too. But again and again I just watched. And guess what? I felt good just to "be with her"

I don't understand that. Maybe I don't have to. But I would like. Thats why I am still looking for further info on the subject.