Ellie Edo
Registered User
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,425
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09-04-2005 10:09
From: katykiwi Moonflower If Prok was banned for calling someone a name, why are the others who do that same thing regularly not banned as well. He wasn't banned for that, or anything even remotely in the same ballpark. I have no desire to go over it, but it was appalling, relentless, vicious, and above all, absolutely destructive of any rational discourse, and virtually the entire forum culture in whole areas. The fact that I agreed, and still agree, with some of his views does not mitigate this. The mere issues appeared only of value to him as a vehicle for his ego games, which I prefer not to characterise further. You lot brought this all up again, remember. I didn't. I had hoped, (and been told, by coco I think) that his inworld persona was more mellow, and thought that maybe I could even have supported his efforts on a few points. I'm such a foolish optimist. I got this, sent to the whole group, and the old nausea returned: "Prokofy Neva has proposed to vote in Second Life. As long as this group is filled with non-like-minded, hecklers, and rubber-neckers, I don't want that 2/3 to be the mandated 2/3 whatever the need for consensus. Let the group gel and more officers be added before this is instituted ."Then I read the transcript of the group meeting, and almost goggled in disbelief. When will I ever learn ? The sensation I feel is not anger, or even dislike. It is more akin to being forced to watch someone fanatically cutting into their own forearm with a razor blade, and needing you to watch. I just want to get away and not see it any more. I'll never ever forget seeing the TV interview with Princess Diana in which she innocently reassured the interviewer "I didn't only cut myself in front of Charles". All there, in that one sentence.
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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09-04-2005 12:05
From: Cienna Samiam The only reason Prokovy Neva ever wanted to know or care about what the rules were was so (he) could figure out how best to skirt ... them, harrass others, and not be disciplined for it.... eventually the fool misjudged ... ...Perhaps the lesson remains unlearned and the poor fools (sic) will get themselves banned all together if they keep it up...those who initiated it (MJW group) were ... unable to curb their resentment, anger, greed, and hunger for power long enough to fool those who needed to be fooled. Well blah, blah, blah,... (your own words above with personal attack language highlighted) It seems like we are talking at cross purposes here and I am wasting my time. You are just wrong. If you say "person X is..." (greedy, crafty, evil etc..) you are making a personal attack. Period. you can argue by yourself though... 
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,416
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09-04-2005 12:07
From: Dianne Mechanique you can argue by yourself though...  That's basically what trying to debate you is like anyways.
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,316
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09-04-2005 13:32
From: Dianne Mechanique Well blah, blah, blah,... (your own words above with personal attack language highlighted) It seems like we are talking at cross purposes here and I am wasting my time. You are just wrong. If you say "person X is..." (greedy, crafty, evil etc..) you are making a personal attack. Period. you can argue by yourself though...  There no argument here, but that is, of course, because I happen to know the person in question has stated they use the guidelines to plan their attacks and harrassment of others. We're not at all talking at crosspurposes. You're merely assuming you know more than you do. It's ok. I'm used to it.
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