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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-07-2005 14:25
Here is a chart of where SL ranks in relation to other MMORPG games with populations under 120,000 people.
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Nexus Nash
Undercover Linden
Join date: 18 Dec 2002
Posts: 1,084
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01-07-2005 14:26
hmmm looks like we are steeling market and growing nice and steady! Where is WOW? I'm it would kill tones of stuff on that!
Edit: My bad, it's july 2004! See if you can get something more recent! _____________________
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Ursula Madison
Chewbacca is my co-pilot
Join date: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 713
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01-07-2005 14:27
That's a pretty chart. Which one's SL? What are the other ones, for that matter?
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Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
Posts: 2,734
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01-07-2005 14:29
We are the black line -- look at the chart
 I like that! We're growing! More newbies! Yay!!! _____________________
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-07-2005 14:30
Give thanks to http://www.mmogchart.com for the charts.
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Paolo Portocarrero
Puritanical Hedonist
Join date: 28 Apr 2004
Posts: 2,393
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01-07-2005 14:31
hmmm looks like we are steeling market and growing nice and steady! Where is WOW? I'm it would kill tones of stuff on that! Edit: My bad, it's july 2004! See if you can get something more recent! The chart is divided into six-month intervals. The last column should represent Jul-04 through Dec-04. _____________________
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-07-2005 14:41
SL is defying the masses... We grow while others crash and burn
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
Join date: 20 May 2003
Posts: 2,716
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01-07-2005 15:50
TSO fell by over 60%. I wonder where they went?
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Rickard Roentgen
Renaissance Punk
Join date: 4 Apr 2004
Posts: 1,869
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01-07-2005 15:59
mmm... might have to try eve online, looks more fun that WoW
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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01-07-2005 16:24
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Daemioth Sklar
Lifetime Member
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 944
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01-07-2005 17:02
[edited because i didn't read the graph correctly
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Ursula Madison
Chewbacca is my co-pilot
Join date: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 713
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01-08-2005 04:20
Silly me... I didn't realize the chart was wider than my screen. The legend with all the names was off the right side.
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-08-2005 05:18
Lineage is the MacDaddy, it would appear..
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Adam Zaius
Deus
Join date: 9 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,483
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01-08-2005 10:15
I compiled a neat little graph showing SL's population over time.
A brief summation: Top Graph: Black - Growth Per Month Gray - Growth per Day (magnified 13x) White Notch - % Growth compared to existing population Bottom Graph: Black - Total Population per Month Gray - Total Population per Day Some notes on statistical accuracy - This graph is of all users, trial users included. It is not representitive of users who leave or do not continue playing. The sample size is 29,266 users, which, according to the number of members of the forums, represents 23.6% of total accounts created.  -Adam _____________________
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Oz Spade
ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand
Join date: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 2,708
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01-09-2005 04:11
Kinda look like Disco Stu's chart.
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-09-2005 04:35
I'd find it hard to believe that SL has 123,000 members. Lets just say SL has been growing for 24/months since it began. It would have to average over 5,000 new users a month since 2003 to be anywhere near 123,000 members. And the best numbers I've seen have been "maybe" 100/users a month at best, in the last 6 months.
I'd have to say SL is in the 15,000 - 20,000 range. |
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
Join date: 20 May 2003
Posts: 2,716
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01-09-2005 06:08
I'd find it hard to believe that SL has 123,000 members. Lets just say SL has been growing for 24/months since it began. It would have to average over 5,000 new users a month since 2003 to be anywhere near 123,000 members. And the best numbers I've seen have been "maybe" 100/users a month at best, in the last 6 months. I'd have to say SL is in the 15,000 - 20,000 range. Adam never said that SL has 123,000 members. His info states approximately 123,000 accounts, which includes people who do not play anymore. A few days ago Philip dropped in on the Welcome Area, and in the conversation that followed, he stated that the current SL population was approaching 20,000, so your estimate was fairly accurate. _____________________
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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01-09-2005 10:19
Adam never said that SL has 123,000 members. His info states approximately 123,000 accounts, which includes people who do not play anymore. . Teeny: Adam said "I compiled a neat little graph showing SL's population over time. " I donno how else to read that other than Adam saying 123,000 is SL's population. He also says that 29,266 accounts are known, which doesn't make sense if Philip said we are justing getting to 20,000. Maybe I'm reading something incorrectly, where are the 123,000 accounts coming from if SL only has around 20,000 members? Even if you include accounts which have been cancelled, you still won't come close to 123,000. |
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
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01-09-2005 10:34
mmm... might have to try eve online, looks more fun that WoW EVE Online is not a MMOG, it's a multiplayer screensaver. Try Vendetta Online instead. BTW I don't see it on the chart even though it's been growing slowly but steadily since the release last October. _____________________
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Cross Lament
Loose-brained Vixen
Join date: 20 Mar 2004
Posts: 1,115
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01-09-2005 11:15
OMG Mankind is on that chart!
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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01-09-2005 12:10
Teeny: Adam said "I compiled a neat little graph showing SL's population over time. " I donno how else to read that other than Adam saying 123,000 is SL's population. He also says that 29,266 accounts are known, which doesn't make sense if Philip said we are justing getting to 20,000. Maybe I'm reading something incorrectly, where are the 123,000 accounts coming from if SL only has around 20,000 members? Even if you include accounts which have been cancelled, you still won't come close to 123,000. Trial accounts. Every time someone signs up in SL, they also get an account in the forums. There's a ton of those. LF _____________________
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Adam Zaius
Deus
Join date: 9 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,483
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01-09-2005 12:12
Teeny: Adam said "I compiled a neat little graph showing SL's population over time. " I donno how else to read that other than Adam saying 123,000 is SL's population. He also says that 29,266 accounts are known, which doesn't make sense if Philip said we are justing getting to 20,000. Maybe I'm reading something incorrectly, where are the 123,000 accounts coming from if SL only has around 20,000 members? Even if you include accounts which have been cancelled, you still won't come close to 123,000. Some notes on statistical accuracy - This graph is of all users, trial users include. It is not representitive of users who leave or do not continue playing. The sample size is 29,266 users, which, according to the number of members of the forums, represents 23.6% of total accounts created. You can guage the accounts fairly easily. Bottom of the forums page 'Show all members'. You will find there are around 123,000 accounts (and a big list of names to prove it). Philip was only including active, paid accounts in his list, whereas I have some inactive/unpaid/trial accounts in that list as well. Edit: The latest forum change hid the link, but it can still be accessed. http://forums.secondlife.com/memberlist.php? -Adam _____________________
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
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01-09-2005 12:47
You can guage the accounts fairly easily. Bottom of the forums page 'Show all members'. You will find there are around 123,000 accounts (and a big list of names to prove it). Philip was only including active, paid accounts in his list, whereas I have some inactive/unpaid/trial accounts in that list as well. Edit: The latest forum change hid the link, but it can still be accessed. http://forums.secondlife.com/memberlist.php? -Adam Why count trial Accounts which aren't paying money? They aren't adding to the growth of SL. Just like Wall Street counting Revenue of a company and painting a rosy picture, yet they might be unprofitable. Paying Accounts should be the only Counted Accounts.. |
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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01-09-2005 12:55
Why count Trail Accounts which aren't paying money? They aren't adding to the growth of SL. Likes like Wall Street counting Revenue of a company and painting a rosy picture, yet they might be unprofitable. Paying Accounts should be the only Counted Accounts.. If you continued reading past the first sentence, you'd see that philip only counts active, paying accounts. LF _____________________
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Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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01-09-2005 14:22
If you continued reading past the first sentence, you'd see that philip only counts active, paying accounts. LF No kidding smarty pants, duh!! My question was to Adam who counted Trial accounts and got 123,000 members as detailed in his graph. If you listened before you spoke, the recepient of the question would have been obvious. |
