So, who's gone out of business?

Well, it's been about a week or so since SL was "hacked" and LSL code was dumped on the market, has anyone gone out of business yet? Any mysterious, new competitors popping up from the woodwork?

Oh I doubt it. Someone who wanted to work hard enough to operate something comparable to Gigas, or build and market a gun comparable to Seburo, would of course want to develop their own code rather than paste someone elses.

Once a person begins taking these scripts apart, they'll immediately begin to see things they would do differently. By the time they finish their revisions, it'll be completely different anyway. My point though is that anyone who's dedicated enough to spend the necessary time on such a project, has the common sense to build their own product from scratch rather than take twice as long hacking through somebody else's ideas.

Well, as one of the people who had code stolen, it was a minor pain in the ass... but didn't affect my enthusiasm for SL. Francis has decided to take a break. Its horrible what that waste of flesh did, but if you let the idiots like that determine the course of your life - first or second - then they've truly won.

ONWARD!

I've seen the code that was stolen.

I'm sure these people are very talented, but all I can really say is that taking code from the badgeo wiki and scripting libraries is 10 times more profitable than ripping off barely documented spaghetti code.

This was a complete non event.

Taking time off from SL because of this is like taking time off from sl because someone hits you with a push gun in the sandbox.

That's not fair! I write barely documented fettucini code.

You can be so heartless. I can appreciate your trying to be contrary and challenging the status quo, but this crosses a line. Even if you really belive it.

There is already plenty of vehicles, and weapons open sourced. Why bother stealing one of these scripts?

As for ATMs.. half the code is on the server side, and if you're smart enough to rewrite that than you're not dumb enough to risk perma ban stealing the other half.

twat

My code is much more mac n cheese than spaghetti. MMMM cheez.

harsh Blaze! Even for you. bah!

mhm. "If it doesn't effect ME, -NOBODY- should be whining about it".

please dont comment on blaze's opinions, they might get mad.

Well, folks, it's official. blaze is easily the most insensitive and pitiable creature on the board. Enjoy your karma, blaze. And when hardship hits you, I will smile.

I'd like an order of angel hair code please in an olive oil and roasted garlic sauce with a side of cheesy bread.

Who knows all of Frances's reasons for taking some time off. Anyway, they are her business and commenting on them in a judgemental fashion demonstrates a serious lack of good manners (and an incredible arrogance).

The hackers appear to have done more damage to themselves than to Second Life.

/me smacks Flipper's hands away from the cheesy bread.

I think mine is more like ravioli. Or maybe Kraft Cheese & Macaroni.

P2

Mmmm... I'm defnitely making those big, starving child eyes at Surreal and watching every move of that angel hair...

OMG, blaze is trolling?!? Quick, alert the media!!

I'll have you know my spaghetti code is very well commented. Only problem is, none of it is related to the code itself.

At least I can tell you what I had for lunch at the time of writing it.


- Newfie

Oh I like cheese. I can eat virtual dirt with cheese on it!

I could not disagree more.

Some people's confidence in LL is badly shaken. This reduces their inclination to create things. If somebody decides to go out to the movies instead of making some cool little gizmo for us to buy or play with, we all suffer.

True, we don't die. True, we don't "suffer" in the sense of being without food for a month.

However it was absolutely not a "complete non event". It was very disruptive to quite a few scripters who now have to change their scripts, not because their scripts are known to have been stolen, but because they fear their scripts might have been stolen.

So it seriously disrupted and/or shook the confidence for certain users. That is not a non event, that is a disaster. And if it happens any more it will be compounded.

Buster

easy mac to be more specific.

Buster, you're probably not much of a scripter or you'd have a different opinion on this subject.

I am. I've looked at this code. My eyes glaze over every time I try to look at some of the code .. I just go back to the wiki.

Cause, like I said - the wiki and script library are 10 times far more interesting and useful than the scripts that were stolen.

a - they have well document code
b - the code has lots of eyes on it, so you often see the bugs right away
c - the wiki has interesting code versus ATMs/Vehicles/Push Weapons which, frankly, have been done to death. There are fantastic descriptions of rotations, code examples of XML rpc in various different languages .. everything under the sun. You'd have to be very very mentally challenged to refer to the stolen code over the wiki (which, I'm sure, the stolen code was based on!)


People are just caught up in their own little ego nightmare thinking somehow the code they struggled over is all important. Quite frankly, I honestly think other than LL, the original scripters, and the hackers that did this, no one else really cares or will be effected in the slightest by it.

In fact, quite frankly, the stolen code is probably a RED HERRING because people might go to it instead of the wiki.

Which is great for us who don't want competition, but bad for SL which needs innovation.

I hope nothing bad happens to anything that means anything at all to you Blaze. Because I'd have to fight myself to care which is normally my default emotion.

You gotta quit trying to blow hot air up our arses, Blaze. So you think you can script, eh? Good for you. Try scripting some AI that can fix your tactlessness.

I have a lot of code out there. I do fly under the radar so that does keep me a bit safe to the effects these other folks felt, but I'm a vulnerable as anyone else.