A Complaint

Snobbery Ulkrika? I expected better of you.

Who came up with the "don't shoot back" rule? That is completely rediculous. If someone is shooting at me they are giving me permission to shoot back. With logs to prove who shot first, I don't understand the reasoning behind the rule.

In RL shooting back is a right. Defending one's self is basic right.

Anyhow.... If anyone should be banned for shooting others, it should be the one who started it, imho.

This is false. "Shooting back" has never been a basic right. If you do attack someone in self defense, you may still be charged with a crime. In particular, if your response is not appropriate to the threat then the likelihood is great that you will be charged for your actions. In most states, there is always the potential for prosecution when you attack someone. Self-defense is simply an affirmative defense.

My point: self-defense is not a basic right. It is neither recognized by the Constitution of the United States nor is it recognized by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I hate to break it to you, this isn't RL. If you get shot in RL, you have the right to defend your life. However, being shot in SL is just a major annoyance. Not to mention the Lindens have repeated stated that shooting back is a TOS violation. Period.




Agreed on that point. This is one of the most aggravating parts of Linden enforcement lately - it seems like the defender is more likely to be banned than the griefer. Bit of a double standard in enforcement, as far as I see it.


- Newfie

SAMUEL ADAMS:

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. … it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defense of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave." -- "The Rights of the Colonists", November 20, 1772

SAMUEL BRYAN:

(Pennsylvania anti-federalist, wrote under the pseudonym "Centinel"

"That the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals..." -- during debates on ratification of the Constitution in the PA assembly


The list of statements from the founders goes on and on, explaining the right to self defense is a natural right. Natural rights are God given rights.

Hi! I'm dutch.
(And i'm in SL, a GLOBAL community)

Just expressing the fact that TOS guidelines should be based on SL, not on any country's history/law etc.

Do God given rights apply to Holland?

Well, the ones handed down from the big hand from the heavens do

If you believe in big hands, that is.

I made this product to try to help in these situations.

Would this have helped you at all?

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