SLEX Petition: Contract, ToS, Communication

I think we all agree that something fishy happened over at SLExchange. There was the termination of a partner, the changing of a ToS several times, and the silence from the owner regarding the situation. All three of these are bad but together they are impermissible.

Sign here if you'd like to see:

1. the issue with the terminated partner resolved,
   
2. notification before a site which has our money changes its ToS, and
   
3. honest communication from the owner regarding the situation.

Until these issues are resolved, SL's most respected artisans will have nothing to do with SLEX.

~Ulrika~

I don't think it's any of our business, but that won't stop me from posting about it.

*hands Ulrika a large stick and shows her where a dead horse is*

Yeah. You or anyone else.

ulrika, i don't know why you keep on this. I don't know either party involved but merwan's post clearly said (or so I read) please don't "represent" me. We don't know the particulars so just let them work it out in private.

It doesn't matter. We have an assemblage of internet lawyers here to rival OJ's dream team. They will keep on until they tire. Rest assured, the longevity of most issues are determined by the advent of the "next big thing."

OMFG.. Someone buy Ulrika a clue.

Surreal

SlEX is good for you!

Ulrika, have you not gotten the message? Nobody wants you mucking about with this. It's a waste of your time, and makes you and everyone in SL look bad. SLX will work itself out on its own, and your constantly posting inflammatory posts hurts everyone. Stop.

She has a competitor business at stake. WTF do you expect from a socialista?

I am not representing anyone in any way. I simply want ethical business practices in SL.

I think we should hold those who are creating virtual banking and shopping systems in our world to the highest ethical standards.

~Ulrika~

HEH! well I can't argue with that! Hear hear! Where IS that business standards group that was forming. I want to join!

Ulrika, read about the money tree? Now THAT is SL community warming my heart! SO cool.

So they shouldn't ever have sex outside of marriage, shouldn't be kinky, shouldn't do ANY sort of drug, marijuana or otherwise, should be quietly anti-homosexual, and all that other wonderful "higher ethical standards" crap that gets tossed around?

*goes immediately to have kinky lesbian sex outside of marriage while drinking frozen rum drinks with little umbrellas*

You MADE me do it Moleculor.

Surreal

I think it's the same pattern we found with the government threads we saw months ago.

When enough people said no - another thread was started, only worded slightly differently. Because we obviously just 'didn't get it'..

Kinda when you see a person talk louder around deaf people... Mind you - the friends I've had that were deaf always found that whole thing very amusing.

Siggy.

i support the condemnation of unethical business practices in SL or anywhere!

it's not a question of supporting merwan or supporting apotheus, whether people are spending hard earned USD or L$ stipends, we have the right to demand social and economical relations that are honest and trustworthy.

if the two owners of slexchange can't step forward and say all is going well then someone is getting screwed. either it's one of them, or it's the customer, or both. personally, i don't like to give my business to cheats. ulrika is doing a community service in disseminating information. rather than attacking her, how about suggesting better ways for her to get the job done.

for example, instead of sending out unsolicitated notecards, why not create a notecard dispenser at various consumer rights or booths in world and set up a website.

nobody should expect to win over the forum on any topic accept fixing bugs and pecan pie.

If it wasn't so pathetic I would laugh.

person A and B are having troubles, so I, person C, having no real involvment am demanding that persons D through Z take action. I decided on this action without listening to either person A or B.

Killing the corpse makes the body stronger, beat that horse!

The scary thing is...this happens every day in real life. Company A is having problems with Company B and the courts decide what and when everyone involed will do.

Yeah it's pathetic in RL too, being a libertarian I loathe when anyone interferes with someone else's affairs.

i think it's pathetic when people don't understand real life.

isn't it a good thing we are all babysat by the affluent and the intellectual elite.

Taken from the SL SDF website:

"Private enterprise, but regulated to protect the interests of workers, consumers, and small enterprise. We believe in ethical capitalism and seek to remove parasitic wealth extraction from the economy through the creation of artisan cooperatives and the use of taxation and regulation to discourage unethical practices."

(I added the bold to highlight relevant points)

Ulrika is doing nothing more than staying true to her fundamental goals within SL. She has repeatedly stated her reasons for involvement, and has no hidden agenda. If you disagree with her, I am sure Ulrika appreciates that more than anyone.

By stating contrasting viewpoints concerning her campaign, whether coming from a political perspective (ie Libertarian), or from general personal disagreement, you are still participating in an amazing addition to the immersion of SL that Ulrika has contributed.

However, marginalizing something that she obviously feels strongly about with witty little one-sentence demonizing jabs just seems kinda ugly to me.

As a "real lawyer" I want to distinguish myself from wannabe ambulance chasers.

no real hitting on Ulrika but hey stop thinking you lead the common opinion ^_^

Oh that's quaint, bolding only the stuff you believe is relavant. Let's address the parts you seem to miss.

ok, let's paraphrase shall we?
Regulating to protect. Ethical capitalism. Removal of wealth by taxation.
So protect me from myself, run my business. Government clearly knows what is best for me. If I make money, the government should get a cut for doing nothing more than existing?

People who relinquish personal freedom to be secure deserve neither freedom or security.
-Allow people to live as they see fit, natural selection works in a business model.

The government that governs best governs least.
- Lets take a look at government supported arts through history shall we? Hitler, Stalin, the USA...

As far as artisan cooperatives, I have yet to participate in a for profit project that is not a cooperative effort. And, taken in part in several where I do not profit at all. But I am free to opt not to do this if I desire it.



I think her platform is wrong, I think her reasoning is wrong. Is freedom of speech wrong too? If Ulrika wants to govern and lead her crusade she can do it with you and the rest of her flock, but stop bothering the rest of us, we are capable of deciding for ourselves.



Griefers also contribute to SL immersion. A contribution can be negative, and her contribution IS.



So maginalizing me with a few more words and Quoting an excerpt from a broken platform is ok? it's just as ugly. How the hell does meddling in someone else's affairs benefit anyone in the community except for maybe Ulrika and her ilk?

Shut the fuck up, please?

"YOU'RE HURTING US, please, please stop" -Jon Stewart, Crossfire.