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Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
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06-14-2005 14:47
From: Kelley Honey I have spoken to several people in sl about the forums and most of them reply..'what forums'....am just curious why the forums cannot be read ingame? I am sure many 'real' players would post their opinions if we could access it from sl. OR...is this the reason why it is not accessable ingame? The forums here are manipulated by Linden wannabes or Linden alts with the exception of a couple people. Most of the people in sl agree with those couple of people that actually defend the majority of us. I personally want to thank them for their efforts .... having a backbone and not being intimidated by these jerks.
Keep up the good work...*smiles* I can't believe you just came here and insulted everyone without knowing any of us. What a nice person you are.
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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06-14-2005 15:09
From: Fiona Peregrine I will now warn everyone about Pen: she is mostly, kind, funny, and smart. In my limited experience if she isn't reasonable with you, you mostly deserved it. Please watch out for her. And get to know her if you see her  Awww! That is a very sweet thing to say Fiona. You made me smile! Thank you! *HUGS* 
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
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06-14-2005 15:13
From: Cocoanut Koala LOOK YOU TURKEYS! I was accused of being an alt for close to a month! I tell ya, it DOES make you all look like a bunch of jerks! I never accused you of ANYTHING. What right do you have by saying "ALL OF YOU".? What right do you have to call people "JERKS" and "TURKEYS"? Sounds like trolling to me. |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 15:16
From: Lo Jacobs I can't believe you just came here and insulted everyone without knowing any of us. What a nice person you are. Lo has a gift for saying things with simplicity while I am still stammering with surprise. Good work, Lo.
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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06-14-2005 15:32
I did NOT SAY "all of you," weedy, I said "you all" and there is a difference, y'all, and anyway you know perfectly GOOD AND WELL that I NEVER INTENDED each and every one of you. I don't care if you never personally called me an alt, you've been unfriendly to me and overtly so since I got on here and you know it!
And if you are going to get all carried away technical accuracy about, "Well, *I* never PERSONALLY did this or that," then I will point out that what Lo Jacobs said above, that the original poster came in here and insulted everyone - well, HEY, I guess that means that the ones she didn't insult, such as myself, aren't PART of everyone. And guess what, we ARE!
The next time you are chewing someone out and patting yourselves all over your backs about how wonderul you are and how awful whoever the "outsider" is, you just MIGHT do a little introspection and MAYBE figure out that this forum is NOTORIOUS for running off people in just the way people tried to run ME off.
As for the person above who said, why don't we have a little fun with this, well, yes. I'm not a fighting person, really, and never did have to do much of any fighting until I got HERE and got called an alt and six or twelve other unlovely names and basically got SMARMED to death.
I, too, would rather have a little fun, and generally do, except SOMETIMES on THIS forum. And whenever you guys start in on someone, rolling your eyes at each other and chuckling together in some kind of mass group defense, remember that I am here, and I went through hell, and no, I'm not going to let you get all smugly self-righteous about yourselves or forget that yes, there is this tendency to do that in here.
coco
P.S. I said it DOES make you all look like a bunch of jerks, because IT DOES!!! And consider yourself lucky I call you a bunch of turkeys, I do that because I'm a nice person and wouldn't call you other things, and you know that, too! As for my RIGHT to say these things, you know perfectly well I have a right to!
P.S. haha I wouldn't have gotten so excited if I had realized it was weedy saying those things, and not enebran , in the first place, lol.
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 15:37
From: Cocoanut Koala I did NOT SAY "all of you," Enabran, I said "you all" and there is a difference, y'all, and anyway you know perfectly GOOD AND WELL that I NEVER INTENDED each and every one of you.
But now that you bring it up, I will say YOU, Enabran, have been most participatory in making my life as miserable as YOU, Enabran, can, and you ENEBRAN have thrown far more than your share of CRAP at me, and I never did a DANG THING TO YOU. I don't care if you never personally called me an alt, you've been unfriendly to me and overtly so since I got on here and you know it! Whoa, someone's having a meltdown.  And anyway, I'm not sure why you're calling me out about "all of you" and "you all." I uh, only just got here. This was my only post in this thread: From: Enabran Templar Lo has a gift for saying things with simplicity while I am still stammering with surprise. Good work, Lo. Are you, uh, okay? edit: Were you talking to Nolan?
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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06-14-2005 15:42
lol - no I was talking to weedy, but I had quoted , done my post off the wrong post and quote, and thought you had said that stuff, which is why I was having a meltdown.
what weedy says, I don't care about so much, lol (sorry weedy)
coco
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 15:46
From: Cocoanut Koala lol - no I was talking to weedy, but I had quoted , done my post off the wrong post and quote, and thought you had said that stuff, which is why I was having a meltdown.
what weedy says, I don't care about so much, lol (sorry weedy)
coco Oh. O...kay. ***Enabran edges away cautiously, making a run for the door at the last minute.
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
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06-14-2005 15:50
From: Cocoanut Koala lol - no I was talking to weedy, but I had quoted , done my post off the wrong post and quote, and thought you had said that stuff, which is why I was having a meltdown.
what weedy says, I don't care about so much, lol (sorry weedy)
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 16:23
Coco...this is why I would like to see the forums ingame. The Enabran 'gang' does not speak for the majority of people in SL. They intimate and belittle new people posting in the forums and that my friend....is just RUDE. The 'gang' does not own the forums so why not add this in SL so that more people will read and post their opinions and ideas. I have met alot of really nice and honest people in SL (with the exception of the 'gang') that have wanted to post but don't want the drama and abuse it creates. I say, take a vote and let the people decide if it should be ingame or not.
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 16:25
From: Kelley Honey Coco...this is why I would like to see the forums ingame. The Enabran 'gang' does not speak for the majority of people in SL. They intimate and belittle new people posting in the forums and that my friend....is just RUDE. The 'gang' does not own the forums so why not add this in SL so that more people will read and post their opinions and ideas. I have met alot of really nice and honest people in SL (with the exception of the 'gang') that have wanted to post but don't want the drama and abuse it creates. I say, take a vote and let the people decide if it should be ingame or not. I have a gang now? Do you even know me? Further, you understand that Cocoanut was talking about someone else and picked my name by accident? edit: Anyway, once Mozilla is integrated into SL, viewing the forums within the engine will be a trivial feat. I'm sure LL will have a slew of SL-related web links viewable from within SL, including the forums. This really seems like an obvious non-issue.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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06-14-2005 16:29
From: Kelley Honey Coco...this is why I would like to see the forums ingame. The Enabran 'gang' does not speak for the majority of people in SL. They intimate and belittle new people posting in the forums and that my friend....is just RUDE. The 'gang' does not own the forums so why not add this in SL so that more people will read and post their opinions and ideas. I have met alot of really nice and honest people in SL (with the exception of the 'gang') that have wanted to post but don't want the drama and abuse it creates. I say, take a vote and let the people decide if it should be ingame or not. They will be in-world, because people will put them on surfaces in world. Go create a proposition. No one is stopping you. I am not quite sure what it is you are protesting. Are you saying you want to turn the forums in to some sort of TV channel in-world, to try and gain supporters for your "side"? If that's the case, and if the forums are any indicator, the same people who incessantly piss and moan about nearly every aspect of SL, will be recognized by a lot more people. So, by all means, let's vote.
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 16:31
Enabran...I see you as being the ring leader from everything I have read in the forums No need for you to play the victim here. |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 16:32
From: Kelley Honey Enabran...I see you as being the ring leader from everything I have read in the forums No need for you to play the victim here. I've never been a victim. Although if you think I'm somehow an opinion leader within the forums, I guess I feel pretty flattered. I always thought of myself as just another newb with opinions to share.
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Fiona Peregrine
Java Junkie
Join date: 9 Jan 2004
Posts: 99
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06-14-2005 17:24
You're welcome, Pen. Perhaps Enabran is using special voodoo mind control powers to influence me to join his gang as I've never met him...I can only speak for myself, and that's what I've done. *brainstorm* Wait, I've got it! As our uber secret leader, Enabran must of course, based on your *everyone who dissents is a Linden* philosophy, be Phil. And I must be some other employee. And I am only posting because he pays me. I'm glad I'm finally catching on  *chronically silly* Actually Kelley, you're the one invoking some "majority of people" in SL that need defending repeatedly. I'm simply stating my own opinions. My opinion is anyone who spends this much time name calling and this little time in constructive suggestion is either an alt out to grief people, or possibly needs a cookie and a nap. By all means, again, I am always interested in hearing constructive suggestions for how to improve second life. If you have a suggestion, rather than an attack or a veiled threat about how folks need to watch out for you, to make then I'd love to hear it. Please make a feature proposal as Nolan suggested, and we'll be happy to vote on it.
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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06-14-2005 17:56
From: Fiona Peregrine You're welcome, Pen. Perhaps Enabran is using special voodoo mind control powers to influence me to join his gang as I've never met him...I can only speak for myself, and that's what I've done. *brainstorm* Wait, I've got it! As our uber secret leader, Enabran must of course, based on your *everyone who dissents is a Linden* philosophy, be Phil. And I must be some other employee. And I am only posting because he pays me. I'm glad I'm finally catching on *chronically silly* You've almost got it. Like the Zerg , I call out with Psi to collect my minions into the overmind. You have responded to my psi powers and are now under my control. Welcome.
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Radiant Jewel
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jun 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 18:08
What's wrong with alts anyway? I'm an alt. Anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my little white butt. |
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 18:21
From: Fiona Peregrine Hiya Kelley- Perhaps the proliferation of alts in world and on the forums ganging up on people has made me a bit jaded. But I notice you're listed along with the rest of the crew in Daniel Luchador's profile. Which may go to explain why your posts seem awfully irritated for a newbie. I doubt since your May join date that you've actually met the majority of residents. There's an awful lot of us. The vast Linden board conspiracy plot's wearing a bit thin. Don't dissent, or you're a Linden! Hrm. Are there issues with the forums? Course. We all know that. But I think your motivations appear a bit suspect So what do you LIKE so far about SL? If you want the forums to be more positive, contribute something of interest. If you have constructive commentary on how to make the forums better and want to be taken seriously, less finger pointing would help. Enjoy your SL  Well...I looked in Daniel Luchador's profile (whoever that is) and didnt see my name mentioned. So no idea what you are talking about. You ask what I LIKE about SL? I like everything about SL in game...its the constant abuse in the forums that I think is unfair. |
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 18:31
From: Fiona Peregrine You're welcome, Pen. Perhaps Enabran is using special voodoo mind control powers to influence me to join his gang as I've never met him...I can only speak for myself, and that's what I've done. *brainstorm* Wait, I've got it! As our uber secret leader, Enabran must of course, based on your *everyone who dissents is a Linden* philosophy, be Phil. And I must be some other employee. And I am only posting because he pays me. I'm glad I'm finally catching on *chronically silly* Actually Kelley, you're the one invoking some "majority of people" in SL that need defending repeatedly. I'm simply stating my own opinions. My opinion is anyone who spends this much time name calling and this little time in constructive suggestion is either an alt out to grief people, or possibly needs a cookie and a nap. By all means, again, I am always interested in hearing constructive suggestions for how to improve second life. If you have a suggestion, rather than an attack or a veiled threat about how folks need to watch out for you, to make then I'd love to hear it. Please make a feature proposal as Nolan suggested, and we'll be happy to vote on it. You have posted in this thread more than I have...I'm not spending as much time on this thread as you are. As far as 'constructive suggestion'...I made a very constructive suggestion....adding the forums in game. I dont need you to tell me what I should post about in here. *hands you a cookie* now take your nap. |
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Fiona Peregrine
Java Junkie
Join date: 9 Jan 2004
Posts: 99
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06-14-2005 18:44
If you dislike abuse in the forums, don't contribute to it with name calling and conspiracy theories. Anyway, I can see this could go on all night and it's growing old. Unfortunately, any reasonable idea you may have for SL is lost in the overall tone of your posts. Again, enjoy your SL.
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 18:53
From: Fiona Peregrine If you dislike abuse in the forums, don't contribute to it with name calling and conspiracy theories. Anyway, I can see this could go on all night and it's growing old. Unfortunately, any reasonable idea you may have for SL is lost in the overall tone of your posts. Again, enjoy your SL. Anywayyyyyyy.....what about Daniel Luchador's profile???? Still looking for my name in there. |
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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06-14-2005 19:19
From: Cocoanut Koala LOOK YOU TURKEYS! I was accused of being an alt for close to a month! I tell ya, it DOES make you all look like a bunch of jerks!
And why did this happen to me? Because I spoke something unpopular! Because I took up for somebody y'all didn't like! Now sweep THAT under the rug all the time, why dontcha?
So you can cut OUT this pontificating about how no, no no, none of you nice people would do anything like THAT. You nice people made ME feel TERRIBLE for just saying what I thought! That should give you pause, and make you think twice before soothing yourselves over with all this no we would never do that junk. Cause you would, and you DID, to someone nice - me - and you will do it AGAIN AND AGAIN if you don't acknowledge this propensity for doing it!
I mean, try to learn from it at least, will ya?
As for separating forums from the game, it's a DARN GOOD THING I DO THAT. I have always done that. BECAUSE - people do a game to play the GAME; people do its forums to fight for what they WANT on the game. That means that someone in game may be awfully different from the way they are when arguing for a cause on the forums.
There ARE like, maybe, a handful of people who are so distasteful to me that I do make a mental note of their names as someone that no, I would not want to be friends with. These mainly include people like those who want to shove 9/11 down our throats, etc. Those who might get a tad nasty just while arguing with each other, well, I can understand that.
If I DID have some policy about tying what people say on forums to being friends with them in the game, I wouldn't be speaking to the many people here now! Because many of you made my first month here on the forums a living hell!
My policy is to realize we all have different goals, different lives, different everything, but most of us are nice, friendly people, albeit sometimes cranky, sometimes slightly crazed, etc., lol, but that is par for the human course. And any nice person in the game, I'm happy to be friends with. (The handful of exceptions I mentioned aren't nice, friendly people in the first place.)
Now this is my policy and my approach and the way I have gone about this game despite the long climb up from my initial tarring and feathering from people who should know better. But I'm not going to stand here and listen to people imply that they never do that.
coco Coco big old bear hugs being sent your way look me up in game after the 20th too! I have been wanting to meet you Cat |
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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06-14-2005 19:28
From: Kelley Honey ... The forums here are manipulated by Linden wannabes or Linden alts with the exception of a couple people... What? From: Kelley Honey ... Most of the people in sl agree with those couple of people that actually defend the majority of us. ... Huh? From: Kelley Honey ... I personally want to thank them for their efforts .... having a backbone and not being intimidated by these jerks.
Keep up the good work...*smiles* wuh? :0 Troll! . |
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Kelley Honey
Registered User
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 23
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06-14-2005 19:50
What? Huh? wuh? Jerk! |
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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06-14-2005 22:47
I think you have to be on the receiving end of this treatment to know it exists.
As for being able to read the forums while in game, and this new connection with the web, whatever it is (cause I really don't understand it), I'm usually in favor of pretty much all new technology and progress, at least until I try it out.
Like I love, in the game, the movies thing. Course it lags me so bad I can't really use it, but know I CAN - and can even do it on my own land! - is lots of fun. Whether or not I actually use it, lol.
Some technical progress things I end up loving, but hating. Like cell phones. They save my life sometimes. And they really irritate me, too - especially when I get the bill. Once we took them away from the girls for abuse of them, and the poor things - they actually started communicating to us and to each other, instead of walking around the house wired to their friends all the time.
I don't think much of anything comes along that doesn't have some bad with the good, but being able to get the forums/web in the game, sounds like it ought to have, like most advances, more good than bad in it.
coco
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