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Merwan Marker
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08-01-2005 12:49
From: Anshe Chung
I don't believe in call out names of people in forums. I also have hope that some people who have been part of this reconsider and change their ways. It seems some already have, others have yet to follow.

But I invite you IM me in world, then I can tell you one list of people who I have seen involved in this.


Quote from message #38, this thread posted by Anshe Chung
You Named My Name

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And here we are back. It is same old clique who post their bias when it comes to SLExchange and SLB. Because SLB and Gigas and Merwan is part of their clique and SLExchange is not.
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On and on it goes...


:confused:
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Siggy Romulus
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08-01-2005 12:51
I think its a load of cock...

....and slander is spoken, libel is written.
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From: Jesse Linden
I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Ferran Brodsky
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08-01-2005 12:55
If I don't name names, but if I do call Everyone in the thread a damned moron is that against the rules?

How about if I prase it in a question like :: Are you all complete morons?
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08-01-2005 13:04
What's SLBoutique?
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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08-01-2005 13:08
From: Siggy Romulus
I think its a load of cock...



If it was, I would like it better.
Surreal Farber
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08-01-2005 13:10
From: Siggy Romulus
I think its a load of cock...


a metric butt-load!!

*dons tinfoil hat*
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Erelas Night
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08-01-2005 13:13
Just because I can, IBTL.

Other than that, there's nothing constructive to add to a discussion of this ummm, level.

I really thought things were simple, again color me naive. Success of any one individual leads to some degree of angst against that individual by those less successful. I'm jealous of all the "big names", can I get in on the conspiracy?

Sorry, my sarcasm is lacking pinache :)
Liona Clio
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08-01-2005 13:23
From: Aimee Weber


Anshe, could you name people who are members of "The Clique"? I must warn you, this is a trick question. As the originator of the "FIC" myth knew ... once you try to get down to specifics the magic in using labels is gone.



Actually, I kinda like the term "FICque". If we're gonna do anything with our labels, we might as well make them designer. :)

Oh, and I'm beginning to think Anshe doesn't pay her sweatshop horde in peanuts. She pays in popcorn. She certainly seems to be cornering the market on Drahma Food in this thread.
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Siggy Romulus
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08-01-2005 13:24
From: Ferran Brodsky
If I don't name names, but if I do call Everyone in the thread a damned moron is that against the rules?

How about if I prase it in a question like :: Are you all complete morons?


I am...

And I can futher extrapolate that anyone in a 'clique' run by me would also be worthy of that title!

Truth be known I'm an idiot savant.. I just haven't worked out what I'm savant at yet.

Siggy.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-01-2005 13:30
Anshe,

That was a nice revisionist history you posted, complete with reference to the long struggles to free your beloved China that you make central to posts where you are trying to appear to be Anshe, the freedom fighter, whose English suddenly goes down the tubes again. The only problem with it, is you would get remarkably different versions of the story if you spoke to Stroker on the issue of why you were kicked out of Eros, Briana on the subject of Galleria City, and so forth. I am sure Adam Zaius would also have a bit to say about how you behave as a competitor, or Merwan on your honesty when it comes to doing business.

The reason that you are not part of some celebrated circle is because, well, frankly, when someone fucks over friends and business associates, they tend to become a pariah. It is really quite simple. The reason people stand behind Flipper and Jen, the people at Gigas, or just each other in general is because we aren't all trying to one up each other at whatever cost. It is not just about business and profit, and screwing over whoever you have to in order to get to the top.

So while your lastest PR post which is alomst as funny as your tobaccco-industry like truth campaign on your web site that contained several easily disputeable lies, you can spin the story however you wish. As fiction goes, it is fine - if you are presenting it as non-fiction, you better use some of that profit to buy yourself a fact checker. A lot of people have been burned along your meteoric rise, and you can write it off as jealousy and corruption and whatever other falsehoods you need to comfort yourself.
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Travis Lambert
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08-01-2005 13:32
Not that I was around for it, but from what I understand our world was a lot smaller, and a lot closer knit back in Beta. Interestingly, much like the Teen Grid is today (at least from the posted accounts from Armath Severine).

The common denominator: the Beta world, and the present-day Teen Grid world - aren't/wern't large enough to support many 'cliques'. The whole world is/was a family, of sorts.

Fast forward to the main grid of today.... cliques *do* exist. There isn't one - there are many, and membership in one isn't mutually exclusive to another. What's more - this is natural and normal as our world gets bigger. Don't expect it to stop - there will be more as our world continues to fractionalize and evolve. And - I think that's a *good* thing if we want a rich & diverse world.

What I don't believe, is that there is some sort of vast formal conspiracy involving Linden and certain clique(s). Some folks do know how to use the avenues of communication more effectively than others. Some folks even politik to bring their views to the forefront, or care more about drama than others. But *no-one* is restricted from utilizing those same avenues if they choose, contrary to myth.

Do some folks tend to be biased about certain buisnesses, individuals and groups in Second Life? You betcha. Its human nature. Especially when it involves someone outside of their 'circle'.

Or, maybe I'm just naiive and need to get out more. Could be that too. Meanwhile, I'll stay in my happy little bubble in Isabel. :D
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Aimee Weber
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08-01-2005 13:51
From: Cristiano Midnight
The reason people stand behind Flipper and Jen, the people at Gigas, or just each other in general is because we aren't all trying to one up each other at whatever cost. It is not just about business and profit, and screwing over whoever you have to in order to get to the top.


Cris, you said a mouthful right here. While we try to define FIC or The Clique it may also be useful to define those who frantically post against them. I think some folks on these forums look at the deep support and comraderie shown between people who SHOULD be vicious competitors, and find themselves baffled.

The care we all show for each other doesn't fit into their world view, it simply doesn't compute! Why would Aimee support Camie? Or Torrid support Neph? Or Rickard support Francis? If a genuine care for others is not a common part of your worldview then there can be no other explaination ... it must be CONSPIRACY!

Oh Liona, this is for you.
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08-01-2005 14:01
From: Travis Lambert
Not that I was around for it, but from what I understand our world was a lot smaller, and a lot closer knit back in Beta. Interestingly, much like the Teen Grid is today (at least from the posted accounts from Armath Severine).

The common denominator: the Beta world, and the present-day Teen Grid world - aren't/wern't large enough to support many 'cliques'. The whole world is/was a family, of sorts.

Fast forward to the main grid of today.... cliques *do* exist. There isn't one - there are many, and membership in one isn't mutually exclusive to another. What's more - this is natural and normal as our world gets bigger. Don't expect it to stop - there will be more as our world continues to fractionalize and evolve. And - I think that's a *good* thing if we want a rich & diverse world.

What I don't believe, is that there is some sort of vast formal conspiracy involving Linden and certain clique(s). Some folks do know how to use the avenues of communication more effectively than others. Some folks even politik to bring their views to the forefront, or care more about drama than others. But *no-one* is restricted from utilizing those same avenues if they choose, contrary to myth.

Do some folks tend to be biased about certain buisnesses, individuals and groups in Second Life? You betcha. Its human nature. Especially when it involves someone outside of their 'circle'.

Or, maybe I'm just naiive and need to get out more. Could be that too. Meanwhile, I'll stay in my happy little bubble in Isabel. :D

I think this post hits the nail right on the head. Well said.
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08-01-2005 14:11
What is thread space being wasted on SLB vs SLEX when we should all be discussing Linden Labs decision to change the auctions and allow certain land barrons to get a stronger strangle hold on the grid.
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08-01-2005 14:14
From: Beau Perkins
What is thread space being wasted on SLB vs SLEX when we should all be discussing Linden Labs decision to change the auctions and allow certain land barrons to get a stronger strangle hold on the grid.


I would guess it is because Blaze only asks the really important questions.
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Liona Clio
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08-01-2005 14:24
From: Aimee Weber
Oh Liona, this is for you.


Yay! I would buy the whole line of FICque. Course, I'm a slave to fashion trends. :D

Labels can be your friends if you don't take them seriously. Viva la FICque Chic!
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08-01-2005 14:31
From: Cristiano Midnight
The reason people stand behind Flipper and Jen, the people at Gigas, or just each other in general is because we aren't all trying to one up each other at whatever cost. It is not just about business and profit, and screwing over whoever you have to in order to get to the top.
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for being celebrated, i dont feel very feted in fact i feel quite like someone smashed me upside the head with a cricket bat shortly after I had washed down two valium with 3 double mochaccino's with extra shots of espresso. now that we have that out of the way...

First off, I would not recommend standing behind Flipper or in any downwind region if you know what I mean ;) :D

Just thought I would share that since this is one of the most randomly irrelevant threads I have ever had the pleasure of reading.

I dont sit around all day trying to find new and exciting ways to be feted. When I get fetid I usually just take a shower. Personally I couldnt even give two craps about being FIC, the non-FIC faction brings it up constantly for whatever reason I dont fecking know and certain FIC loudmouths bring it up in a boastful manner in order to tweak the nips of the Non-FIc and run away laughing covertly. Granted I cant speak for the rest of the purported FIC. BUt gawd fecking dammit it to orange soda, I am really sick of hearing about all things FIC. It makes me want to :) :p ;) :D :o :confused: :mad: :eek: :confused:

If you expect this response to make sense just put it in your pipe and smoke it, its my first official full day off the nicotine patch and i've been sort of wonky in the head. :p :p

But at least it means that i have gone two whole months without a cigarette. Thats at least something.
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08-01-2005 14:39
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
for being celebrated, i dont feel very feted in fact i feel quite like someone smashed me upside the head with a cricket bat shortly after I had washed down two valium with 3 double mochaccino's with extra shots of espresso. now that we have that out of the way...

First off, I would not recommend standing behind Flipper or in any downwind region if you know what I mean ;) :D

Just thought I would share that since this is one of the most randomly irrelevant threads I have ever had the pleasure of reading.

I dont sit around all day trying to find new and exciting ways to be feted. When I get fetid I usually just take a shower. Personally I couldnt even give two craps about being FIC, the non-FIC faction brings it up constantly for whatever reason I dont fecking know and certain FIC loudmouths bring it up in a boastful manner in order to tweak the nips of the Non-FIc and run away laughing covertly. Granted I cant speak for the rest of the purported FIC. BUt gawd fecking dammit it to orange soda, I am really sick of hearing about all things FIC. It makes me want to :) :p ;) :D :o :confused: :mad: :eek: :confused:

If you expect this response to make sense just put it in your pipe and smoke it, its my first official full day off the nicotine patch and i've been sort of wonky in the head. :p :p

But at least it means that i have gone two whole months without a cigarette. Thats at least something.

Two months without FICotine?

*runs away laughing covertly*

:D
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08-01-2005 14:40
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
But at least it means that i have gone two whole months without a cigarette. Thats at least something.


Woohoo!! YAY JENN!! You can do it!! Be very proud of yourself!! *HUGS* :D
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08-01-2005 14:42
From: Cristiano Midnight
The reason people stand behind Flipper and Jen, the people at Gigas, or just each other in general is because we aren't all trying to one up each other at whatever cost. It is not just about business and profit, and screwing over whoever you have to in order to get to the top.



From: Aimee Weber
The care we all show for each other doesn't fit into their world view, it simply doesn't compute! Why would Aimee support Camie? Or Torrid support Neph? Or Rickard support Francis? If a genuine care for others is not a common part of your worldview then there can be no other explaination ... it must be CONSPIRACY!


I think these two statements are so very true of people in SL. I felt they needed to be quoted so I did.
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08-01-2005 15:00
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
for being celebrated, i dont feel very feted


Oh but you are feted! Look at the joy your work brings to millions:

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Nephilaine Protagonist
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08-01-2005 15:03
From: someone
Sayeth Aimee: The care we all show for each other doesn't fit into their world view, it simply doesn't compute! Why would Aimee support Camie? Or Torrid support Neph? Or Rickard support Francis? If a genuine care for others is not a common part of your worldview then there can be no other explaination ... it must be CONSPIRACY!


*applause*
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08-01-2005 15:20
None of this happened because people supported their friends or praised a friend.

This didn't just start out of nowhere.

This all happened because people decided to do a smear campaign on a business. A business that, as far as I can tell, doesn't deserve it.

THAT is what began it. That is what appears, to me, to be indefensible, despite this happy little anti-Anshe gathering going on here now.

People dissed a business. Deny that.

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08-01-2005 15:51
From: Cocoanut Koala
People dissed a business. Deny that.
People had thier reasons - deny that.
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08-01-2005 15:53
Just to let everyone know I *LOVE* the FIC

Hell, >I< am the FIC.
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