I was at my favorite SL country music club tonight and was told that for tonight they wouldn't play any Earl Scruggs or Ricky Scaggs because they aren't "country". God forbid I didn't request any Gillian Welch. After I picked myself up off the floor I wondered what is country music if they aren't.
Is country music only that city slicker tight jean cowboy hat over orchestrated stuff that most people consider country or does it include musicians that fiddle and banjo their way to my heart?
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Susie Boffin
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08-06-2005 18:55
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08-06-2005 19:02
I was at my favorite SL country music club tonight and was told that for tonight they wouldn't play any Earl Scruggs or Ricky Scaggs because they aren't "country". God forbid I didn't request any Gillian Welch. After I picked myself up off the floor I wondered what is country music if they aren't. Is country music only that city slicker tight jean cowboy hat over orchestrated stuff that most people consider country or does it include musicians that fiddle and banjo their way to my heart? Yeee-Haw! _____________________
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08-06-2005 19:10
I grew up listening to "real" country.
Once upon a time it was called Country & Western. I miss those days... Country as it is now (mostly), is an overcommercialized mess. This shift seems to have taken place in the last 2 decades or so. A large part of what I always loved about what I consider real country was the fact that most of the stars came from quite humble beginnings, which shone through in the spirit and lyrics of their music - real experiences contributing to the stortytelling. Today, it seems like country is just a somewhat "countrified" version of pop, much to my dismay. Pretty faces, tight jeans and material bought from song mills...  _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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08-06-2005 19:14
I've heard it's a lot like real music.
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08-06-2005 21:32
I've heard it's a lot like real music. ~Ulrika~ "You're a'pickin and a'grinnin." _____________________
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08-06-2005 21:44
Most of what's called country music today is just tired rockabilly or soft rock and has nothing to do with real country. I grew up listening to folk and bluegrass. I have a lot of respect for that. Today's country is just mass market crap.
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08-06-2005 21:56
I wondered what is country music? It's the only music where if you play the record backwards..... You have friends in "high places" and you get your house back, you get your truck back, hell ... even your dog comes back. (sorry couldn't resist). That said, I happen to love Blue Grass and that's country music isn't it? I mean, I played it backwards, but I'm perplexed because I haven't gotten my dog back yet dammit. _____________________
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Susie Boffin
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08-06-2005 22:11
By god there are a few true believers out there! I grew up on acid rock and bluegrass and when I hear the bubblegum that people call country I shudder. Eveyone to their own tastes though whether it be fake country music or the real thing.
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08-07-2005 00:47
The state of all "popular" music is dismal. There used to be a time when we didn't have media giants like Infinity Broadcasting or Clear Channel dictating what is "good" music. Radio stations were independent, and they played what the people requested, not from a tired playlist of a couple dozen "popular" selections chosen by market research. Rant over, back to the topic.
I'm no authority on what passes for "Country Music", but from what I hear in passing, it ain't country. Its something that wishes it were, but tries to have "crossover" appeal. Then again, all genres of "popular" music do that. _____________________
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08-07-2005 02:44
Well..I can tell you what it ain't: It ain't what it used to be.
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08-07-2005 03:09
I like any kind of music as long as its good. Every genre of music have people that are good and bad at it. When I think of country music, the legendary variety come to mind first, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, George Jones, Willie Nelson, Patsy Cline, and even Bob Wills.
Bands I like that arent so well known, Junior Brown, Billy Joe Shaver, and Don Walser. The only "new country" singers I like these days are Dwight Yoakum and Alan Jackson. Todays Top 40 Country, or what ever they call it, its awful. It is honestly very painful for me to listen to it, so I dont. |
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08-07-2005 08:22
Heh, the state of commercial country music isn't anything special...
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08-07-2005 12:36
After I picked myself up off the floor I wondered what is country music if they aren't. I thought that Ricky Scaggs, at least recently, fell into the 'Bluegrass' genre. Country music seems to be evolving in many different directions simultaneously. I would add Lucinda Williams, Lyle Lovett, and Steve Earle to the mix (they are typically a sub-genre unto themselves--alt country). Perhaps this might help. In the immortal words of David Allen Coe: . . . he told me it was the perfect country and western song I wrote him back a letter and told him it was NOT the perfect country and western song because he hadn't said anything about Momma, or trains, or trucks, or prison, or gettin' drunk. Well, he sat down and wrote another verse to the song and he sent it to me and after reading it, I realized that my friend had written the perfect country and western song. And I felt obliged to include it on this album. The last verse goes like this here: Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got outta prison. And I went to pick her up in the rain. But, before I could get to the station in my pickup truck She got runned over by a damned old train. _____________________
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08-07-2005 12:56
I'm another one who grew up on "real" country, the classics, the folk, the bluegrass stuff, etc... This newfangled stuff is trash. Like has been said, it's pop music, but with a twang. And they mention pickup trucks sometimes.
Because it seems appropriate... Nobody saw them running From 16th Avenue They never found the fingerprints Or the weapon that was used But someone killed country music Cut out its heart and soul They got away with murder Down on music row The almight dollar And the lust for worldwide fame Slowly killed tradition And for that, someone shouldhang ("Ahh, you tell 'em Alan" They all say "Not Guilty!" But the evidence will show That murder was committed Down on music row For the steel guitars no longer cry And the fiddles barely play But drums and rock 'n' roll guitars Are mixed up in your face Ol' Hank wouldn't have a chance On today's radio Since they committed murder Down on music row They thought no one would miss it Once it was dead and gone They said no one would buy them ol' Drinkin' and cheatin' songs ("Oh, but I still buy 'em" Well there ain't no justice in it And the hard facts are cold Murder's been committed Down on music row For the steel guitars no longer cry And you can't hear fiddles play With drums and rock 'n' roll guitars Mixed right up in your face Why the Hag wouldn't have a chance On today's radio Since they committed murder Down on music row Why they even tell the Possum To pack up and go back home There's been an awful murder Down on music row ~Murder On Music Row (George Strait and Alan Jackson) _____________________
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08-07-2005 15:21
There's still some great country out there. You just won't find it on the radio much. Personally, I like the more nitty-gritty louisiana swamp-rock and the dirtier side of blues and bluegrass... but yeah -- shania twain et al is not really country IMO... use more synthesizers these days rather than guitars, banjos, and spoons....
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08-07-2005 21:59
In case anyone cares I am not criticizing anyones taste in music. Everyone has the right to like anything they want including so-called country music whether they truely like it or because they feel they are supposed to. No offense but it sounds like bubblegum to me. I am not criticizing the listener but the crappy crap that is supposed to be country music.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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08-07-2005 22:52
I am not criticizing the listener but the crappy crap that is supposed to be country music. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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08-08-2005 07:31
Yee-haw! ~Ulrika~ Not just 'anyone' gets to intone 'Yee-haw!' with impunity! _____________________
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08-08-2005 08:12
Does it count if I frequently channel the spirits of both Lefty Frizzell and Bob Wills on sunny afternoons in my house in Sylvia? Separately, I mean. I once tried to channel them simultaneously, sure, but the crossover static was unbearable, sounding a bit like Don Walser yodeling backwards through a Jell-o filter... er, not that there's anything WRONG with that.
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08-08-2005 08:15
I love all music. I do not discriminate and am often found listening to a variety of styles of music.
That said. todays Country is Country Pop, it is very similar to the pop music I listened to in the 80s. It does not come close to beating the old Country ( I am talking about where there is just a guitar and maybe a banjo and/ or spoons) or Country Western where drums where added in and steel guitars. But todays country isn't crap either. It is good music (though admitadly(sp?) cookie cutter music) that has it's own place. It just needs to be evaluated on it's own and not thought of as the country of the past. |
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08-08-2005 08:29
Cowboy Junkies Margo Timmins letting loose on Patsy Cline? If that is wrong, I don't want to be right. (P.S. Memory, I totally lucked out and got a 3-day pass to ACL. Can't wait!!!) _____________________
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08-08-2005 08:33
3-Day pass? Whoa! What, d'you work for them or the Chronicle or something?!
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08-08-2005 08:38
I grew up listening to "real" country. Once upon a time it was called Country & Western. I miss those days... Country as it is now (mostly), is an overcommercialized mess. This shift seems to have taken place in the last 2 decades or so. A large part of what I always loved about what I consider real country was the fact that most of the stars came from quite humble beginnings, which shone through in the spirit and lyrics of their music - real experiences contributing to the stortytelling. Today, it seems like country is just a somewhat "countrified" version of pop, much to my dismay. Pretty faces, tight jeans and material bought from song mills... I totally agree..... When I dj-ed, the few times I did.... I loved doing country because it was the country I grew up with. I cut my teeth on artists like Roger Miller, Lynn Anderson, Willie Nelson, Charlie Pride, & the like. I've nearly quit going to "country" events because no one seems to know what "country" is, Or Country & Western as I still call it. I have country songs that date back to 1957. ( Big Balls in Cow Town, Twenty fools Ago) . Yuppers boys and girls George Strait wasn't the first to record Big Balls, nor was the Pointer Sister's the first to do Slow Hand(Conway Twitty). Don't get me wrong, I really like some of todays country and I play it right along with the "real" country in my list. Hushing now cuz this topic is something I could rant about for a while. ~Smiles~ glad to see there is still a few out there who remember & enjoy real country. Z _____________________
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08-08-2005 08:51
A few so called country acts nowadays even mix in hip-hop and there are too many tunes that sound more like top 40's pop than country. Nothing can withstand the assault of Yank commercialism.
I personally prefer "classic" country, 'cause I was country, when country wasn't cool. |
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08-08-2005 08:55
3-Day pass? Whoa! What, d'you work for them or the Chronicle or something?! Just that the Decemberists are gonna be there ... that's brilliance enough for me. But then, I look at the names of all the other bands and it's like, who the hell needs to regret not having been around for Woodstock, y'know? Good gawd! Nope. Just dumb luck (and a maxed credit card). Wilco, Arcade Fire, Death Cab for Cutie, Bob Mould, Mates of State, Widespread Panic (because I miss Athens), Buddy Guy, Steve Earle! Good lord! To borrow a word, it will be an 'eargasm.' _____________________
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