Second Life not good enough for you?

OMG why isn't anyone buying my $100,000 cube!

I worked... SECONDS on it!

Dude. You forgot to make it shiny.

Sorry, then. You confused me with your statement:Clearly, if somebody is charging ridiculous rates, they'll find out pretty quickly because nobody will buy their stuff! So how many examples could there be?I doubt if anybody is in it just for the money. Do you know how much you get for L$1000?Most items are no-transfer because that's what most people want; and almost any seller will make you a no-copy transfer item if you ask (and if you can catch them in-world). I don't understand your complaint.And I'm not sure what it is that you're asking LL for, anyway. Copy+transfer is an option now, but very few people are going to sell stuff that way. Are you asking to have your stuff changed from no-transfer copy to copy no-transfer? But your use of the word "consumers" suggests that you're looking for a long-term technicial solution.

Yours, sincerely,

Puzzled.

What comment? Using his name?

How is that ad hominem?

Geez, "he who must not be named" treated me like 2 year on in his initial post and I didn't respond anywhere near "in kind".

People around here seem to have pretty thin skins.

I'd use your name, as a matter of respect for treating me with respect, but I don't want to be accused by "you know who" of making a personal attack.

That said, I _am_ a noob and as such, not always aware of the options available. As I said, I'll have to get no-copy transfer versions of things I buy that I might want to sell later.



It would consumer friendly if sellers offered different versions of (at least) more expensive products, so that both the seller and buyer don't have to deal with it out of band. That said, if sellers are willing to convert stuff, that's good too.

Ultimately, it would be best to have a permission system that was more consumer friendly while still protecting creators.

I'm not sure anyone is weeping about your remark. "Ad hominem" simply means "to the man." A remark made ad hominem is one where the individual with whom one is debating is made the subject of discussion, instead of the subject at hand.



Thus, rather than speak to the argument Snowcrash was attempting to make, you instead made a remark about his nickname, its inspiration, and made a conclusion based on these two pieces of information that cannot be substantiated within the text of Snowcrash's actual remark.

This, then, is a remark made ad hominem. Please let me know if I can further clarify.

Personal attacks on this thread aside, I'll try to retread the train...

The RAC isn't meant as a "political tool", as some may believe. It's best described as an informal town hall.

Tell me, why do we need the permission of the Lindens to assemble?

Oh, that's right, we don't

What's wrong with getting together and hammering out a discussion on current SL issues at hand?

It's not meant as a political bloc, a bargaining chip, or a force of nature. It's a bunch of users getting together (in another means of communication -- that is, inworld) in order to talk about stuff going on in SL. What's the harm in that?

Furthermore, please consider that not everyone reads the forums. Most find it intimidating, indeed dangerous to post here. No doubt I contributed to that atmosphere of doom and gloom during my pre-cereal tirades. Nevertheless, folks in-world, who never even load up the forum, don't have as direct of a voice to the Lindens as we do (or think we do, anyway). Ever notice how people complain about SL being down, even though it was announced in the forums several times 2 weeks in advance? Yeah, no one reads the forums. If we have meetings inworld, where everyone is invited to speak their mind, we increase communication between EVERYONe, which is a Good Thing (tm).

Just my thoughts.

LF

No, I wasn't making a comment about any of that, I was just using his name.

I only now remember that Snow Crash is a book.

The comment "the book of ----" simply meant "according to "you know who". Not according to the actual book Snow Crash.

Now instead of getting the textbook treatment, he could have simply pointed that out.

And I'm still not happy with his condescending and disrespectful comments in his initial post.

Somebody wrote:

"Most find it intimidating, indeed dangerous to post here."

I've certainly learned how the wagons get circled here.

Wow, that was quick. Already moving to the victimology. Quite a speedy evolution.

DogSpot, awww... don't let that discourage you. A few emoticons and jokes in the midst of it all can go a long way—proof of this lies within posts I made when I was new! Even I got into heated situations at time, but keeping a smile and just continuing to eagerly want to understand the other person's perspective and intention and asking more questions, all that really helps.

It's good to ask questions about context too, like especially with those who have been in SL a long time. NO slight to new Residents at all, as we were all new once, but it helps to smooth communication between generational avatars.

In time, in time, it'll smooth out. And if in doubt, this is SL, it can be fun to meet inworld and you'll find some Residents who come off as very voracious and dogged here are laidback and chillin' at their virtual homes.

Cheerio!

I'm just pointing out the stone cold facts of the situation.

Who's discouraged. I'm not about to be intimidated by some of the people here.

I thank you for being nice to me earlier in this thread.

The facts are, you made a remark. Others shared their opinion of that remark. That's the give and take. If you lack the strength of conviction to join in such discourse, there's plenty of other fun stuff on the internet that doesn't require you say things that others might not agree with.

You're most graciously welcome.

*rolls eyes*

I don't expect one of the members of the wagon train to see it any other way.

What do you mean by "wagon train"?

Yeah, yeah, Enabran is leading a mob, Enabran robs Kingfish of their sight, Enabran rigs every Oscar night, Enabran holds back the electric car, Enabran makes Steve Gutenberg a star...

I get it, I've heard it all before.

It's just an expression. If felt to me like I was being ganged up on (that is the wagons were circled by more, uh, experienced members).

Enabran controls the British crown!
Enabran keeps the metric system down!
He keeps Atlantis off the maps!
He keeps the Martians under wraps!

Ah. "They". A lot of that going around.

Not the anonymous "they", but certain people. Names I shan't utter lest I be accused of
making a personal attack.

Wait for it.




Just a sec.



Any moment now.



H'od up.

Here we go.

Most content creators charge what they feel the time and effort they put into things is worth. I am yet to meet a content creator in SL who is making a good full time income on the work they do, yet many put more than 40 hours a week in to it. There are some doing ok for a hobby but that is all depending on what type of scale you use to measure "OK".

Lets not forget the many of people you would be refering to, who put out open scripts to help the future residents of SL to have a head start and a little easier time building objects to sell.

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