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PG RATING in FORUM???!!!? MATURE? or PG?

Wuvme Karuna
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06-06-2005 13:17
From: someone
QUOTE BY JESKA LINDEN: "Per the Community Standards, the Second Life web-site conforms to the same types of PG-ratings as encountered in-world. What this means for those posting images in the Classifieds forum is that you should not display full-frontal nudity when advertising AV skins or revealing clothing. Images which contain such content will be removed, per our Forum Guidelines."


This is stupid. Why is there a "skin" forum section if you cant show pictures of mature skins... What if we dont like the nipples? LOL HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel bad for the people who do skin work, and want to display their creativity in the "NEW PRODUCTS" threads...

Do you think the forums should stay PG? or MATURE?
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Roberta Dalek
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06-06-2005 13:20
They've always been PG....
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Wuvme Karuna
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06-06-2005 13:21
Well, they are taking MATURE pics out of the forums such as skins that show nipples and other parts.
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Frostie Flora
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06-06-2005 13:41
This is just pure unreasonable,

Most of us have been around the block more then once,

skins are beautiful things, made by awesome people, okay so if its all PG, there can't be thongs, sheer underwear, or anything of the sort,

If it truely is PG then there should be no allowance of undergarmets at all in the clothing forum, somehow I get the feeling this is suposed to be family oriented,

I feel so much for the people who's skin pictures have been removed, they're truely works of art,

So I vote yes on mature,

One by one we'll all be masacured by the cupcake ninja's they send after me, o.o
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Juro Kothari
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06-06-2005 13:45
Someone must have been offended at the sight of a nude pixel body. Ridiculous? Yes. Surprising? No.
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Lo Jacobs
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06-06-2005 13:50
Yes ... someone must have been offended :(

The Lindens have always said that they weren't going to go around censoring people, in terms of fuck this and screw that (fuck YOU, however, has always been deleted).

But in terms of skins, I don't see why we should be censored. The Gallery's full of mature images too.
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Paolo Portocarrero
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06-06-2005 14:12
Well, if we're going to enforce PG standards in the forums, pretty much every thread will need to be dredged for expletives...
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Forseti Svarog
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06-06-2005 14:19
In regards to censorship of people's skinwork, if that indeed becomes a habit, here is my "PFFT!" post:

to give a few examples through the ages...

Botticelli
http://www.iangilman.com/germany/img/botticelli.jpg

Titian
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/T/titian/titian_venus_of_urbino.jpg.html

Manet
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/manet/dejeuner/manet.dejeuner-sur-herbe.jpg

Duchamp
http://www.oraculartree.com/duchamp_NudeDescendingStaircaseNo2.jpg

Lucian Freud
http://www.exporevue.com/images/magazine/661lucian_freud_self.jpg

Cecily Brown
http://www.artseensoho.com/Art/DEITCH/brown98/brownGIFS/brown3.jpeg
Arbel Vogel
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06-06-2005 14:20
I'm mature. I should be banned.





:p
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06-06-2005 15:40
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Brit Wishbringer
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06-06-2005 16:18
My question is...why all of a sudden is it not ok to show AV skins? I have not been here all that long...but have seen many designers post thier new skins to show people. SL is "suppose" to be an adult world, if and "adults" have issues with "adult" topics or pictures, they should find a PG game that has none of the above in, there are many out there, you just need to look for em.
Etain Peregrine
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06-06-2005 17:39
Pixelated tatas frighten me and make me hide under the bed. Save me from those impure lustful pixels.
Jeska Linden
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06-06-2005 17:48
The Forums (along with the rest of the Second Life web site) have always had a PG-rating (per the SL Community Standards). This doesn't mean that you are not able to post your skin, it just means means if you were advertising a skin in the classifieds forum, you would need to cover up the non-PG areas with either clothing or a 'black bar.'
Wuvme Karuna
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06-06-2005 17:50
If the "nipple" part is the part that most females are concern about why cover them up if its art.... ?? your basically covering up the persons creativity. Such a shame.

LOL
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Juro Kothari
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06-06-2005 18:12
Here's an example of using black bars to 'mask' the offending body parts:







;) ;) :D :D

Yes, yes... I'm only kidding. Just two of them would do. ;)


Special thanks to Wuvme for the original image!
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06-06-2005 19:35
Fuck Piss Shit Cunt Cocksucker Motherfucker Tits
Wuvme Karuna
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06-06-2005 20:14
ROFL OMG THAT PIC IS HILLARIOUS ROFL


I WAS SO not naked in that PIC! ROFL
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Juro Kothari
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06-06-2005 20:19
From: wuvme Karuna
ROFL OMG THAT PIC IS HILLARIOUS ROFL


I WAS SO not naked in that PIC! ROFL

Not only were you *not* naked in that pic, but there are NO 'offending parts' to you! ;)
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06-06-2005 21:04
Live by my example.. ;)

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06-06-2005 21:33
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Thili Playfair
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06-06-2005 21:43
eeeh haha, thanks for the laugh, yes i think the rule that AV skins cant be shown in forum is plain odd, PG?.

But question, is this "rule" for pics with links to nude avatars or pics that shown instant you go into a post?

I thought SL was just for 18+ do the teengrid people even have access to these?, doubt that, why are people sooo scared of nakedness, i can swear cuss and say rude things, i can blow up people and show their parts all over, but a nude pic omg no!

Heck i build nakked :) or well sometimes im nakked rl and build in SL, go figure.
Ilianexsi Sojourner
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06-06-2005 23:06
From: Thili Playfair

I thought SL was just for 18+ do the teengrid people even have access to these?, doubt that, why are people sooo scared of nakedness, i can swear cuss and say rude things, i can blow up people and show their parts all over, but a nude pic omg no!



Exactly.... this is just silly. The forums are (supposedly) only accessible by residents, and all residents (supposedly) must be over 18, so what's the problem? Why do we need to be afraid of nudity? We've always had nude pics of skins here, if you have a link to go to the pic, and the pic isn't embedded in the post, what's wrong with that?

Hey, here's an idea... if people are so offended by nudity they can just NOT CLICK THE LINK. Wow, that's so simple that it's probably a bad idea! Much better to just remove all nudity everywhere!

Something like this is going to hurt business for skin designers. I would never buy a female skin without seeing what the nipples, etc. look like first.... if you have to go inworld and go to the shop to see the uncensored pic, some people aren't going to want to bother.

How about we leave the mature content in linked pictures, and anybody who's bothered by it stays the hell out of that thread? Sounds reasonable to me.... either that, or hey, let's go all the way and take down the forums for a day or two so the censors can go through every thread and remove all the mature language, and take out all the nude pics in the gallery.... then it'll all be nice and clean and bland, and there'll be nothing to offend anybody at all. Sheesh.

I say, more nude pics! The human body is an amazing thing, and the professionally done skins available in SL are real works of art worthy of being shown off. Anybody who isn't mature enough to be able to deal with seeing a simple nude snapshot, and who would rather wipe it all out than let anybody else see it, is perhaps in the wrong game.
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Torley Linden
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06-06-2005 23:16
Two things I'd like to ask for clarity, please:

-Just like we have PG and M sims inworld, what's the possibility of having an M area of the SL Forums? (Not that I would want to add to moderation burden if things get out of hand, but specifically for the purpose of posting things like skins in the nude.)

-Can outbound links to a skin creator's website be posted, where images do appear in the nude? As in, a PG "teaser" version is posted on here, and the M one follows after the hyperlink?

Thanxaroonie!

:)
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Cocoanut Koala
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06-06-2005 23:58
Oh yes, despite what I said about our little nude avatars on the TSO boards, I voted for the forums to be a PG area.

The reason I did this is not because we aren't (presumably) all over 18.

I did this for the same reason I appreciate the game itself being divided into PG and Mature areas, despite the fact that we are (presumably) all over 18.

Real life is itself divided into mature and PG areas, and I appreciate that. I spend very little time in "mature" areas such as topless nightclubs (though I did go to one in the Bahamas), or adult book stores.

For the same reason, I prefer not to be assaulted by "adult" content wherever I turn, either irl, in the game, or on the forums.

Might I add there is some difference between the statue of David and some of the nude avatars I have seen in the game.

coco

P.S. Much as I hate to say so, the discourse of the forums would be quite a bit less aggressive if the four-letter words were disallowed, and as a result, would actually be quite a bit more adult.
Lo Jacobs
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06-07-2005 00:02
From: Cocoanut Koala
...words...


I do not see anyone using an excess of four-letter words to where it becomes a problem.

I also do not see anyone posting an excess of mature images.

This measure was completely uncalled for.

I agree with Torley's suggestion that there should be a "Mature" area of the forums where we can paste whatever we want.
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