Ananda Sandgrain
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02-03-2005 08:42
From: Devlin Gallant Exactly where you getting your info from Nog? Scientologists? And you trust who for your information? Psychiatrists? It took over a decade of reports of suicidal and homicidal behavior before the FDA admitted that just maybe it wasn't a good idea for doctors to be prescribing these drugs to every schoolkid they could get their hands on.
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Lisse Livingston
Mentor/Instructor/Greeter
Join date: 16 May 2004
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02-03-2005 12:26
From: Nogard Codesmith I honestly hope, if you ever decide to quit taking that stuff, that you are one of the lucky few http://www.quitpaxil.info/Thank you for the concern for my health, but I do have it quite under control, thank you - as does my doctor. I have in fact quit before with no problems, and it is my choice to be currently taking it. My metabolism and pharmaceuticals work together quite unlike most people's, and the effect they have on me is almost always reduced from the average. So where did your medical training take place? 
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Treacly Brodsky
Pixel SLinger
Join date: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 186
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02-03-2005 18:26
Didn't expect this thread to go this far! BumpBump 
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Stormy Roentgen
Prim Putter Togetherer
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 342
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02-03-2005 20:10
I have never seen any evidence that Wellbutrin is so horrible to take. Infact from what I've read and heard it's mild compared to others. I've taken it to stop smoking before and it's helped with that, but at the same time I was also depressed and it changed that none at all. I also had a coworker taking it to stop smoking at the same time and he quit because he said it made him feel entirely emotionless. Not me. Different drugs effect people differently.
I've heard bad things about Paxil. I personally don't want to take any of it long term. I hope I can find happiness and keep it without drugs. I see nothing wrong with others taking it though. My mom has been on wellbutrin for years... Prozac before that. She's seriously mentally ill though. Some people really need the stuff. For them, taking it is better than not taking it, hands down.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
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02-03-2005 23:38
From: Ananda Sandgrain And you trust who for your information? Psychiatrists? It took over a decade of reports of suicidal and homicidal behavior before the FDA admitted that just maybe it wasn't a good idea for doctors to be prescribing these drugs to every schoolkid they could get their hands on. That is a concept I have issues with. Some say that these meds cause suicidal tendancies in the depressed. My question is did the person attempt suicide because of the medication, or because the medication just didn't work? I had to go through a series of different drugs to find one that would work with me, and even then it just keeps me outta the deep black depressions. I am still usually in a moderate depression most of the time.
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Treacly Brodsky
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Join date: 23 Jul 2004
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02-04-2005 06:29
From: Devlin Gallant That is a concept I have issues with. Some say that these meds cause suicidal tendancies in the depressed. My question is did the person attempt suicide because of the medication, or because the medication just didn't work? I had to go through a series of different drugs to find one that would work with me, and even then it just keeps me outta the deep black depressions. I am still usually in a moderate depression most of the time. On another hand (your 3rd one), Did they attempt suicide because all the the preasures/occurrances of they're life added up to they're personal decision to take they're own life? I know an awful lot of drug addicts, most of them turned to drugs because they couldn't handle they're situation; They most likely couldn't handle they're situation because it was above them and out of they're hands (ie. Fucked up parents, unfortunate events, birth defects, all of the above, ect.). Drugs, weather precribed or not alter the mind. Next, they alter different minds differently for each individual (is that redundant?). And finally, the altered mind, mixed with each individuals own instances, occurances and mishaps of shitty fucking happenings all boil down to suicide. IMHO it is always deeper then "they commited suicide because they were on drugs". No two snow flakes are the same. Thanks 4 ur time. P.S., I don't feel drugs are the answer for half of depression cases, especially childhood depression. Get to the root of the problem(s) and talk about and/or change if possible. And no I am not a doctor nor a college grad. Hell I barely graduated HS. I've just known 1 too many druggies/Suicides. I've pulled myself out the gutter. 
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David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
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02-04-2005 08:04
Well, having lived my entire life with panic anxiety, and having my son inherit it from me, and having my younger brother crippled by it, I can honestly say, thank god for certain anti-depressants. It is genetic within our family, from my mothers side, and has no deeply buried root cause. It's simply a chemical and physical disorder. My life used to be hell. If I wasn't suffering an attack, often for no apparent reason, I was very angry at myself, feeling that I was weak for not being able to control it. In my case it is genetic, and triggers an adreniline dump into my system, either because of trigger events, or just randomly. My son suffers terribly from it. I did my own research, went through tons of different therapist and doctors (back then no one knew squat about it), and finally was put on prescribed drugs. I went through three medications, including Paxil, before trying Trazadone, and it has made my life so much better. It is a strong anti-depressant, but I take small doses, and the only side-effects I've ever felt are dry mouth in the mornings, and a near constant erection (truthfully)if I skip my pills or ease off them.  I've been taking them for close to 15 years. I am in the process now of weening myself off them, in the hopes that my body has changed enough that the attacks have greatly lessened. My son is on generic Prozac, which scares his mother and I, but we are keeping a close watch for other possible side-effects. It has greatly decreased his attacks, (he is a very brave boy), but I think it has also made him depressed to some degree. If we determine that he is indeed suffering from depression due to the medication, then we will try something else. But he's 12 years old, so it's damn hard to tell if he is depressed, or if he's just going through the chemical and physical changes of reaching puberty. So I guess my point is, many mental illnesses, or disorders, are not caused by something that can simply be talked about and resolved, but by actual chemical reactions or physical defects within the body. I am uncomfortable with giving kids this type of medication, and the whole ADD thing I feel is out of hand (quit acting like a kid or we will medicate you), but at times, for some things, medication, coupled with education or even therapy, can make all the difference in the word.
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