Ensuring we disrespect the TOS

For the not so blaze obsessed: If you click on the links you'll see that my intentions are obviously that I'd like to be able to disclose my password.

IGE, GOM, Wilde Cunningham, and loooads of others have obviously disclosed their password.

But the TOS says:

http://secondlife.com/tos.php



Robin Says:

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You don't respect something that neither residents nor Lindens take seriously. Also, by keeping things in like this, you are just undermining the spirit and most likely the legal effectiveness of the TOS.

You can't seriously be suggesting that Wilde Cunningham shouldn't be allowed to have a collective avatar. You've sunk to a new low, Blaze. I'm beyond disgusted that you'd take issue with that.

aahah, Chip.

I think you're insulting other people's intelligence if you think that's going to fly.

But, you have ratched up your obsession with me, I gotta admit that.

I always need to remember to quote you since you always edit your posts after someone calls you on them. Praytell why do you want to share your password? Under what circumstances do you feel you're in a similar situation to GOM, IGE, or Wilde Cunningham?

Yah, maybe you should have clicked on the links provided buddy boy!

But, hey, you are revealing some rather hidden feelings about me. I didn't realise that you had such strong feelings!

Once again, moot post.

blaze, you don't care about what you posted, insomuch as stirring up a hornet's nest.

I did read them, Blaze. You haven't answered my question. Why do you want to share your password and in what way do you feel your circumstance is similar to the cases you listed? Seems like you're just trolling as usual.

My reasons are completely irrelevant and orthogonal to the discussion. There is no need to make this conversation about me, as obsessed about me as you might be.

If they want some people to have password disclosure capability, fine, then they should say:

"Except with prior approval, you should not disclose your password." Or something.

If you are actually serious about discussing my reasons, I welcome you to read this thread:

/130/e3/53386/1.html

You made it about you. Or are you admitting that this is just a troll to try and stir up controversy over nothing?

Oh give it a rest. I got better things to do.

Narcissism followed by defeatism. Trolling behavior.

If that were true I doubt you'd have started this useless thread when Robin already answered your question.

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WEll you can take me 3/4 serious this time.

Check out the thread:

/130/e3/53386/1.html

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This looks like a grin-worthy "gotchya" on the part of Blaze.

Though it's always been my assumption that any part of a contract can be waived if both parties involved agree to the waiver. "Except with prior approval" could be pasted in front of every single sentence of the TOS, but it would be needlessly verbose and repetative. Anybody who has agreed to a contract (even a rental lease) know that they can always make a phone call, explain their special circumstances and request an alternative agreement. It's up to the other party to agree or decline the request based on the risk vs. reward, or simply the quality of their business relationship.

So is this what you are actually asking Blaze? Or are you hinting that the Lindens should not be permitted to enter into different service agreements with different parties based on different risks/rewards/relationships?

i beleive blaze is properly refered to as a plural


i suppose i could be mistaken,

but that seems how they have suggested it.

blaze, this is just really, really silly of you.

It is probably helpful to keep that first quote in context, as it is at the end of a full paragraph about disclosing your password:


This is really a non-issue - not quite sure what your point is, since you never really clarified it.

Although, blaze - it would be interesting to see what course of action the Lindens would take if you decided to disclose your password here on the forums.

Heh, yeah that WOULD be interesting. Fortunately, we're not going to find out.

In some cases, yes, it might be silly of me. I find being silly is a good thing to be.

However, in this particular case, I am only 1/4 silly. I'm trying to structure a foundation (quasi legal) beneath what I'm trying to do and the fickleness of LL telling me when and when I can't disclose my password makes it a rather shakey foundation.

Not to mention that fact that many people openly flout this particular rule. You'd think they'd change it so that people would believe that the TOS was at least somewhat relevant.

Also, Aimee, I have my doubts that IGE/GOM or Wilde or anyone else has gotten permission to share accounts.

So, instead of making an issue out of it here, why don't you go directly to the source for your answer?

It is possible that they make exceptions to the rule for projects such as IGE/GOM and maybe even yours.

This is actually interesting as it means that businesses can't have joint avatars for accounting purposes.

Several projects I've been involved in would benefit from a mutual avatar. Lots of projects need a group treasury or an avatar to hold items used by several people.

Well the only reason to formalize a waiver is to protect either of the two parties involved from liability. For example, if Linden Lab hinted that sharing passwords was OK for IGE to do, but never put it in writing, then Linden Lab could later nail IGE for breaking this rule. If this is something IGE is worried about LL doing, they should formalize the agreement. If not, then an informal nod is good enough.

But this is all between you and them. Oh wait. No it isn't. It has nothing to do with you

But why post this thread? You should be writing an e-mail or on the phone with LL. First thing tomorrow do it ... "Here is my business plan, could I have a waiver" If you seem like a truthworthy person to the Lindens they will feel comfortable granting your request.