Do you REALLY know your virtual lover?
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katykiwi Moonflower
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06-10-2005 15:58
Do you really, I mean really, know your virtual lover? Do you trust them? Give your real life information to them? Your passwords? Your credit card number?
We have all heard the horror stories. She turns out to be a he, or he is actually looking a lot like a she. The breathtaking picture sent of a super model came from some online site, and bears no relationship to their actual appearance. They are married and say they are single. They are 50 and say 25, or are 16 and say 28. They claim to be brain surgeons who really serve blue plate specials. They brag about being published authors whose most renowned work turns out to be a high school essay. The life they describe as their own turns out to be completely fabricated.
How do you know the truth, and more important, does the truth matter if your relationship is limited to online only? Maybe the SL fantasy so predominate that real life, reality, becomes irrelevant.
Have you been deceived by one you loved and trusted in SL, and if yes, how did you find out the truth?
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Siggy Romulus
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Join date: 22 Sep 2003
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06-10-2005 16:18
<----- As well as I can know myself 
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Dan Rhodes
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Join date: 5 Jul 2003
Posts: 268
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06-10-2005 16:23
I may not know my SL lover's real life , but I know what she likes .. mmm yeah j/k Seriously I think this question is about as old as the Internet itself. If they are tricking you I doubt there is any way you would find out unless they told you. Well I guess the possibilty of them giving away too much information at some point might come up. The longer you know a person online the more information you are bound to uncover about them. Slip ups and conflicting stories are going to happen over time if you are indeed being tricked I would imagine. Could keep a journal of facts near your computer (not unlike a stalker journal) and see if any slip ups occur if you were really set on finding out. 
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katykiwi Moonflower
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06-10-2005 17:06
From: Dan Rhodes If they are tricking you I doubt there is any way you would find out unless they told you. Its a bitch that the way one would have to prove honesty would be by confessing the deception.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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06-10-2005 17:13
I do, and we have shared CC#s and the like (which was before we met RL, kind of risky in retrospect, but sometimes you get that feeling after many hours on the phone and such, that you can trust someone in this manner). We have the benefit of having spent over 3 weeks together in RL since then however, so I am not sure that we fit your definition. On the trust issue - fidelity wise - that's a tuffy - distance (in our case about 1200 miles) can strain that type of trust. It caused me to be a bit of an ass at first, but I (and her through her patience with me) have worked through that and things are going very well now. I hope to be flying out to see her again in a month or two. 
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Tikki Kerensky
Insane critter
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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06-10-2005 17:55
I know we're both video game addicts. I know she has someone else RL and it can never go there for us. Doesn't stop us both from having a great time here. n.n And yeah, I have been burned in the past by others. No, not gonna say anything about how. As for shes turning out to be hes, well... that one is not so sticky an issue for me. 
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daz Groshomme
Artist *nuff said*
Join date: 28 Feb 2005
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06-10-2005 18:26
yeah, she's sitting to my left and making a store in Transylvania, she's actually sickeningly sweet in real-life unlike her avatar haha!!!
oh do you mean 'know' in the biblical sence like Ismael knew Mrs. Ismael because that wouldn't be so..
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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06-10-2005 20:05
From: katykiwi Moonflower We have all heard the horror stories. She turns out to be a he,
Hahahaha... funny thing is, that ended up being true for me. I love it, and I love my Jadey. <3> We trust each other like the sun trusts the moon, and more! 
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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06-10-2005 20:10
You never know anyone until the first time they fuck you over, then you learn their true nature.
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katykiwi Moonflower
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06-10-2005 23:24
From: Torley Torgeson
Hahahaha... funny thing is, that ended up being true for me. I love it, and I love my Jadey. <3> We trust each other like the sun trusts the moon, and more!  And that's wonderful, but the concern is when you are lied to about it, and your new BF turns out to be your old GF. It's deliberate deception that is a bite.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
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06-10-2005 23:34
Yeah that sucks, I agree.
I am always in such a weird life... oh... damn... rippleshock.
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
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06-13-2005 08:19
From: Eboni Khan You never know anyone until the first time they fuck you over, then you learn their true nature. ouch. so very true. Online or Off.
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Arcadia Codesmith
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Join date: 8 Dec 2004
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06-13-2005 08:28
From: Colette Meiji ouch.
so very true.
Online or Off. So if they never do, you never really know them? Not buying it.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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06-13-2005 08:30
"Look, I have to tell you I really like you. I'd like to take our relationship to the next level. Will you please fuck me over now and get it out the way so I can really get to know you and we can get to the good stuff?"
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
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06-13-2005 08:31
I'm meeting mine soon WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE as you can tell! i'm kinda excited  
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Arcadia Codesmith
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06-13-2005 08:33
From: Kris Ritter "Look, I have to tell you I really like you. I'd like to take our relationship to the next level. Will you please fuck me over now and get it out the way so I can really get to know you and we can get to the good stuff?" *grin* I think I'll just edit the word "over" out of my version.
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Colette Meiji
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06-13-2005 08:42
From: Arcadia Codesmith So if they never do, you never really know them? Not buying it. dunno ... never been in a relationship that lasted more then a month where they didnt. Edit -- hmmm do need to take part of this back. That would have been before now. My current online Relationship (course its only 2 months) she hasnt. Hopefully she wont. Shes not on very much so by necessaity we have to keep things in perspective, that might help.
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Zarah Dawn
Adorned Owner & SL Model
Join date: 3 Feb 2004
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yes & yes  LOL
06-13-2005 08:52
Yes I do trust my SL partner. No we don't do CC #'s and stuff but we could it it became necessary. He's totally commited in r/l and so am I. He means my SL world to me. Yes I have been screwed over .... in TSO tho.. He turned out to be a She and since i'm not bisexual I was uhhh * shivers* a lil put off (LOL) Tho after the shock wore off I did consider continuing the relationship but the trust factor was then shot to heck. how'd I find out... LOL his /her friends in TSO told me ..... you know... the close ones that you are supposed to be able to trust  NOW .... I watch for lil clues like..... "This is a game and i'm playing it. " on their bio's. I was also warned that a big percentage females in SL are males.
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Madiera Westerburg
waiting for apocolypse :D
Join date: 6 Apr 2004
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06-13-2005 08:58
i moved in with mine...hes sexy and he COOKS TOO OMG
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koolhand Koolhaas
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06-13-2005 09:11
This comes back to one of my favorite questions:
How do you know what you don't know? Sometimes there are the obvious "I don't know how to build a car". But this seems to fall into the "Yes, I know all about my car. What? I'm supposed to change that belt after 60k miles? I didn't know".
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Lupo Clymer
The Lost Pagan
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
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06-13-2005 10:19
From: katykiwi Moonflower Do you really, I mean really, know your virtual lover? Do you trust them? Give your real life information to them? Your passwords? Your credit card number?
We have all heard the horror stories. She turns out to be a he, or he is actually looking a lot like a she. The breathtaking picture sent of a super model came from some online site, and bears no relationship to their actual appearance. They are married and say they are single. They are 50 and say 25, or are 16 and say 28. They claim to be brain surgeons who really serve blue plate specials. They brag about being published authors whose most renowned work turns out to be a high school essay. The life they describe as their own turns out to be completely fabricated.
How do you know the truth, and more important, does the truth matter if your relationship is limited to online only? Maybe the SL fantasy so predominate that real life, reality, becomes irrelevant.
Have you been deceived by one you loved and trusted in SL, and if yes, how did you find out the truth? Keep cyber cyber and fun. Keep RL RL and off the net!
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
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06-13-2005 10:26
From: Arcadia Codesmith So if they never do, you never really know them? Not buying it. You never know people until you see them at their worst or rock bottom. That is my outlook/opinion, everyone has their own yardstick they use to measure people.
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Tripp Kraken
Darth Tripp
Join date: 8 May 2005
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06-13-2005 10:27
Who's yours willow?
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Arcadia Codesmith
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06-13-2005 11:51
From: Eboni Khan You never know people until you see them at their worst or rock bottom. That is my outlook/opinion, everyone has their own yardstick they use to measure people. There's truth to that. But there are people in the world who wouldn't screw you over, even at their worse. It just never enters their mind. If you find one, hang on to him or her 
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Trinity Serpentine
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06-13-2005 14:34
I don't have a virtual lover because my rl lover and I have to share a computer. 
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