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Siobhan Taylor
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06-09-2004 04:10
From: someone Originally posted by Siggy Romulus
Someone the other day used the phrase 'gratuitous racism' -- some hours later while thinking about that, I couldn't help but reason that that implies such a thing as 'necessary racism'. Well maybe there is in a way... Don't get me wrong... I'm just thinking of the words now... so let me explain... National Pride is a form of racism. Supporting your national $SPORT team. Supporting your country's armed forces in a war... These are not bad things, yet they imply the we're better attitude. A milder (much milder) form of racism, agreed, and sometimes, especially in the sports example, forgotten as soon as the team/player leaves the arena (Soccer being a notable exception... but that's just basic thuggery). It's not "necessary", but neither is it harmful. The form of racism that attempts to dehumanise someone based on skin colour or language is a different thing altogether, and is definately "unnecessary" and indeed unwanted. After all, we're supposed to be civilized. Anyway, just my thoughts ... you may disagree. Personally, I think any form of racism is stupid. It stems from fear of the unfamiliar... All a person has to do is to think a little in order to see the futility of racism. Didn't the human race originate in north africa or somewhere like that? We were all black once. Those of us now who are white, well... we just lost skin pigmentation when we moved into colder areas. So there... is race a better than race b cos their ancestors couldn't take the heat? Pfft! Sorry for the rant at the end.
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Ryen Jade
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06-09-2004 07:20
Is death dead yet? Has his ignorence left this earth and left here a better place?
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Cristiano Midnight
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06-09-2004 10:12
From: someone Originally posted by Siobhan Taylor
Well maybe there is in a way...
Don't get me wrong... I'm just thinking of the words now... so let me explain...
National Pride is a form of racism.
Supporting your national $SPORT team.
Supporting your country's armed forces in a war...
These are not bad things, yet they imply the we're better attitude.
A milder (much milder) form of racism, agreed, and sometimes, especially in the sports example, forgotten as soon as the team/player leaves the arena (Soccer being a notable exception... but that's just basic thuggery).
It's not "necessary", but neither is it harmful. The form of racism that attempts to dehumanise someone based on skin colour or language is a different thing altogether, and is definately "unnecessary" and indeed unwanted. After all, we're supposed to be civilized.
Anyway, just my thoughts ... you may disagree. Personally, I think any form of racism is stupid. It stems from fear of the unfamiliar... All a person has to do is to think a little in order to see the futility of racism.
Didn't the human race originate in north africa or somewhere like that? We were all black once. Those of us now who are white, well... we just lost skin pigmentation when we moved into colder areas. So there... is race a better than race b cos their ancestors couldn't take the heat? Pfft!
Sorry for the rant at the end. Siobhan, What you are describing is nationalism, not racism.
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Siobhan Taylor
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06-09-2004 10:55
Cris,
Not wanting to start an arguement, especially where we probably agree anyway, but my whole point was that I see one as no more than a lesser form of the other.
As I said, I may be wrong, but it's my opinion.
Sio
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Kasandra Morgan
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06-09-2004 12:36
Well you can meet on "they are both -isms".
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Siobhan Taylor
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06-09-2004 15:58
and -isms are bad
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David Cartier
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06-09-2004 17:46
Are you including feminism and hypnotism? OUCH! I was kidding! hahaha From: someone Originally posted by Siobhan Taylor
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Kasandra Morgan
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06-09-2004 18:16
I forgot about hypnotism! Doh!
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Devlin Gallant
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06-09-2004 18:31
Well, astygmatism is definately bad.
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Devlin Gallant
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06-10-2004 02:46
Cherubism is good tho.
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Siobhan Taylor
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06-10-2004 04:31
From: someone Originally posted by Devlin Gallant
Cherubism is good tho. Nah, that's the worst -ism of the lot. What you really need is Sch-ism LoL Sio
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Devlin Gallant
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06-10-2004 07:54
Sexism SOUNDS like it would be good, but it isn't.
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06-10-2004 07:55
Anachron-ism
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Devlin Gallant
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06-10-2004 07:57
Voyeur-ism is fun.
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Otacon Falcone
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06-11-2004 19:00
o_O This forum almost reminds me of smoke clearing from wreackage; We came, We bashed, We left in a hail of ism's
by the way; Has anyone heard for that immature Death Grace or did he get what he deserved (Did they ban him)?
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Devlin Gallant
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06-11-2004 21:58
Hmm, isn't that the Ota calling the Death black? 
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Kasandra Morgan
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06-11-2004 23:21
Shrug...unlike what most people think, I am not that concerned with Death's comings and goings. If he isn't harassing anyone just leave him be.
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His Grace
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06-11-2004 23:27
From: someone Originally posted by Kasandra Morgan
Shrug...unlike what most people think, I am not that concerned with Death's comings and goings. If he isn't harassing anyone just leave him be. don't think of a white bear.
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Devlin Gallant
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06-12-2004 07:19
White bear?
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Mickey Valentino
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06-13-2004 21:18
Don't sweat it too much. None of us asked for what we were born into and none of us are inferior to any other.
The child in Iraq born into a shanty with 200+ depleted uranium rounds in the soild beneath it didn't ask for the life of cancer and maladies he will suffer through and see.
The silver spoon fed child of multi millionaire parents he will see only 15 times before his 20th birthday didn't ask for that.
Nor was there some test you filled out before being born that dictates your color. If you're going to hate someone do it because they stole your twizzlers or shot your dog.
A person much wiser than me once said "I'll be glad when aliens start attacking from outer space, then we can get past this color/racial thing" ... well something to that effect.
In a way thats funny, because the reason most people can't accept the possibility of alien life is they would have to be more intelligent beingsthan we are .... god help us if we're the smartest species out here.
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Neehai Zapata
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06-14-2004 05:16
Screw race!!
I clearly didn't ask to be born with the genetic legacy that is my ass.
Fuck the people with good genes. Fuck them all!
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Siobhan Taylor
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06-14-2004 05:34
From: someone Originally posted by Neehai Zapata
Fuck the people with good genes. Fuck them all! ... in alphabetical order ...
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Julia Curie
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06-14-2004 06:15
this thread is why I only drink on days ending in 'y'...
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Pendari Lorentz
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06-14-2004 07:40
From: someone Originally posted by Julia Curie
this thread is why I only drink on days ending in 'y'... How sad. I actually stopped for a second to think of which days actually ended in "y". You meanie butt Julia!! haha  
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