Another Super Majestic FIC OMG LOL BBQ MJW meeting.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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09-01-2005 21:58
From: Hiro Pendragon I love when non-specific swarms of people are accused of being self-interested, it's FIC, but when two land barons get together to protect their telehub land, it's "Justice". Smooooooooth!  It sure is, isn't it? This cockamamey group of would be Grima Wormtongues will be their own undoing. Mark my words.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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09-01-2005 21:58
From: Jake Reitveld Oh my. I met with LL in San Francisco, mouthed off about how I hate telehubs to phil himself. Wow.
Not dissing you or nothing but..... How fucking silly did you feel after you did that ? Just wondering.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
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09-01-2005 21:59
I don't come close, but I will have to admit I sent an email saying how much Teleports suck and scroo Telehubs once. Ah, to be young and reckless again... oh what the heck am I talking about, I'm still that way!
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
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09-01-2005 22:03
From: Torley Torgeson I don't come close, but I will have to admit I sent an email saying how much Teleports suck and scroo Telehubs once. Ah, to be young and reckless again... oh what the heck am I talking about, I'm still that way! Hehe Tor I love you, but if you met Phil in person in SF would you bitch about telehubs? I'm thinking you'd ask to buy him a drink and just pick his brain on other shit. Come on, am I the only serious SL freak who just finds this a bit ... oh I don't know .... LAME?
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Sezmra Svarog
Pointy-Eared Geek
Join date: 8 Jul 2004
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09-01-2005 22:11
Wow.
A whole day of Metaverse Justice League, I mean Watch, hooplah.
I can totally respect a group of people/players/users/customers/residents/yourlabelhere coming together to put down on the table their concern for X, Y, or Z. One thing I cannot respect is backhanded comments, hints of controlling for the sake of personal security(personal BUSINESS security at that), and the assumption that "Paying Customer" equates to "Stock/Stake/Stack/Steakholder".
I'll draw a parallel from the MMORPG genre:
They're afraid their control on their virtual surroundings/holdings/stock/investment is going to be nerfed. Linden Lab is purely in their right to do whatever they want with their virtual world - whether or not that negatively or positively affects their customers.
What a customer of Second Life invests is their problem, their risk, theirs to deal with. To allude that since they've invested so much - that they should be guaranteed a certain amount of monetary security or future business security because they do X, Y, or Z is just plain silly. You aren't going to get security by manhandling the issues and forgetting that you were the one to put so many eggs in one basket.
Some people in Second Life are forgetting that. This is a platform, and because you can profit from that platform does not mean that it has more legs under it than it actually does. Second Life benefits from a huge amount of open communication between its developers and users, already. It's quite possible to utilize those channels without alienating the rest of the population. No one needs "Justice" served. They merely need to speak their mind in a civilized manner.
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Torley Linden
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09-01-2005 22:15
From: Lecktor Hannibal Hehe Tor I love you, but if you met Phil in person in SF would you bitch about telehubs? I'm thinking you'd ask to buy him a drink and just pick his brain on other shit. Come on, am I the only serious SL freak who just finds this a bit ... oh I don't know .... LAME? Hahaha... okeydoke, quite honestly, here's the serious wrap: if I met him in person (sigh wish my ears were better), especially if it was in a casual context, I might bring the issue up but it would be in the context of a joke, or something humorous and it wouldn't be like a nasty confrontation. It would be mean-spirited of me to say such a thing in a public place and he'd prolly permaban me INSTANTLY from his fingertop 'puter that plays SL. The jolly upside: on the other hand, if I was on "Phil's turf", aka on a tour of the office, and like saw Lindens themselves having a hard time with Telehubs and Teleports, I'd be all like "HA-HA!" like Nelson Muntz.  I'm just saying!
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Hiro Pendragon
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09-01-2005 22:17
From: Lecktor Hannibal Not dissing you or nothing but..... How fucking silly did you feel after you did that ? Just wondering. Heh, but for calling him "Phil", not for mouthing off. Following Invasion: LL this July, a bunch of headed to a local pub and had a spirited discussion about telehubs. 
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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09-02-2005 00:58
heh. and people were saying it shouldnt be about WHO is in the group but WHAT the group is about. But it's the WHO that makes it unworkable.
...So you'll just hafta leave, Aimee, because Prok is never going to be able to focus on anything but your panties otherwise. And then how will they ever get round to dispensing justice for Anshe?!
By the way, am I the only one that Prok completely creeps out to the point I find myself shuddering reading some of what he/she/they/it says?
What a horrid little person.
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
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09-02-2005 01:17
Gee can't that Prok person think without their crotch for one second? This "Justice group" sounds more like a "Sleaze Group".
It'd be a cold day in hell before I listen to what they have to say, even if they cut out their sleazy side comments.
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
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09-02-2005 01:40
From: Kris Ritter By the way, am I the only one that Prok completely creeps out to the point I find myself shuddering reading some of what he/she/they/it says?
What a horrid little person. Same here  His/her words about the MJW thing affect me physically. I'm feeling very nauseous.
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
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09-02-2005 01:41
I think the prok is creepy, definitely...
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
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09-02-2005 05:24
From: Torley Torgeson I don't come close, but I will have to admit I sent an email saying how much Teleports suck and scroo Telehubs once. Ah, to be young and reckless again... oh what the heck am I talking about, I'm still that way! hehe.. The most I ever got was Philip to say my name sexy on air during a live broadcast when Jade opened the Library. 
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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09-02-2005 05:39
Oooooooh! FIC! You probably made someone cry! Think about it! 
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FlipperPA Peregrine
Magically Delicious!
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09-02-2005 06:06
From: Cienna Samiam Ah, another big and shocking surprise (not!):
Same song, same ol' curse, second line much like the first. The group has already become a power grab by the anti-FIC paranoiderati ranterati pernicious elite... OMG, they had a meeting with the Lindens! Its so unfair that some have an "inside track" and get treated favorably by the Lindens, getting FAVORS done when they request it, like meetings and use of the Linden Recruitment Center in Waterhead! OMGWTFLOL?!!?!
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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09-02-2005 06:11
From: Kris Ritter By the way, am I the only one that Prok completely creeps out to the point I find myself shuddering reading some of what he/she/they/it says?
Is creeped out by? nope.
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Nolan Nash
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09-02-2005 06:14
I wanna know when teh BBQ is! 
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Karandas Banjo
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09-02-2005 06:21
MJW or MJ12? 
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Nolan Nash
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09-02-2005 06:22
From: Karandas Banjo MJW or MJ12?  MS13?
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Torley Linden
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09-02-2005 06:30
From: Karandas Banjo MJW or MJ12?  You ever play Deus Ex? 
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blaze Spinnaker
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09-02-2005 06:37
I thought we were all obsessed by Aimee's panties?
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Hikaru Yamamoto
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09-02-2005 07:18
oooooo hes said mine too  i have it uploaded to SL 
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-02-2005 07:28
From: blaze Spinnaker I thought we were all obsessed by Aimee's panties? How quickly the tide turns. My conspiracy theory is that Aimee started the whole thing to distract people from talking about her 
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Loki Pico
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09-02-2005 08:54
From: someone Sezmra Svarog said... What a customer of Second Life invests is their problem, their risk, theirs to deal with. I been trying to stay out of all the multiple threads on this topic, because I dont want to fuel it. But, it was hard to let Sezmra's quote go unacknowledged. It is much more important than Aimiee's panties. I dont run a business, I just enjoy SL. I got a lot of broken vehicles in my inventory that I cant use anymore because of scripting improvements in newer versions. I get a little sad that I cant use some of these vehicles sometimes, but it makes me happy that they are part of SL history and things have gotten better over time. Things are always going to change. It is just the nature of SL. I got that from the very start, I dont understand why it is so hard for so many to accept or even understand. SL is always going to have version revisions, some features will disappear and others will be introduced or improved on. If you choose to participate in SL, at any level in any area, you must be able to accept change. When the change arrives it may hit you harder than someone else, but thats not the other persons fault. They may actually be thrilled about the change while you wallow in misery. You have to step out for a minute and see the big picture. Then you must choose to adapt and survive or give up and move on. Like my broken vehicles, some of the creators have changed their work practices to keep pace with the scripting and produce new and better versions and some have just quit making vehicles.
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Euterpe Roo
The millionth monkey
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09-02-2005 09:04
From: Cristiano Midnight How quickly the tide turns. My conspiracy theory is that Aimee started the whole thing to distract people from talking about her  Or. . . maybe . . . she does not want us to know that Aimee Weebler wears  tighty-whities 
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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09-02-2005 09:10
From: Euterpe Roo Or. . . maybe . . . she does not want us to know that Aimee Weebler wears  tighty-whities  Underoos.
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