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Trinity Serpentine
Schwan's Avitar Reject
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07-19-2005 12:14
my skin is iron ![]() Fibber. ![]() ![]() _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
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07-19-2005 12:21
but but ![]() ![]() That's 'cause you're nice. Me, on the other hand, I'm a dick. And I'm not the only one. So you can see the cuddlers are a bit of a minority. ![]() _____________________
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Billy Grace
Land Market Facilitator
Join date: 8 Mar 2004
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07-19-2005 12:24
Didn't my gratutious use of tongue make it plain enough? ![]() ![]() ![]() mmm… gratuitous tongue usage… life doesn’t get any better than that… does it? hehe _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
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07-19-2005 12:26
but but ![]() ![]() *HUGS Hik* ![]() Oh. And no, I'm not thick or thin skinned. Somewhere in between. And I have freckles! ![]() _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
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07-19-2005 14:06
Wow so far 40 yes votes and 8 no votes.
Interesting and enlighting posts, thank you ![]() ![]() Cat _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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07-19-2005 14:15
Forums are cruel places. :/
~Ulrika~ _____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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07-19-2005 23:25
This one particularly.
I voted yes. Besides my own experience with forums, I have in the past few months asked other people for their opinion of these forums, vs other game forums they have participated in. These come in at the bottom of the heap. Admittedly, this is by far no scientific study, but it does confirm what I feel. And this is what I feel: There are some people here who will be mean no matter what. They have no sense of propriety or appropriateness whatever, and apparently have no intention of ever changing their minds about anything, or becoming friends, or giving second chances, or even bothering being humane. That business in the apology thread that was locked. I keep thinking people can't possibly go any lower - yet they do. That one is even lower behavior than the shunning thing. And I thought nothing could top that. That business in the apology thread was something utterly shameful. Some people absolutely INSIST on their right to be mean here, and will do it till the participants are dead, I suppose. They are incapable of seeing that it is a person at the other end of the keyboard JUST LIKE THEM. They indulge in this and that psychiatric analysis of their victim, when - lucky for them - their victim, and others who would never stoop that low, are good enough not to give unsolicited psychological analyses of them. I have never seen worse behavior anywhere, online, in forums, in real life - not ANYWHERE - in my whole life than I do here. Some of you ought to think about whether or not being mean to another person - saying HIDEOUS things that you would never get away with saying irl - is actually worth however clever or cool it makes you feel. And when you pile on to do it as a bunch, think about whether those feelings of comraderie and in-group coolness and all that, is worth what you are doing to another person. Other people said in that thread that it was like being in grade school or high school again. I have to say, I never saw anything this bad in any of my school years. The fact that some people think these forums are their personal playground for being as mean and cruel and CHILDISH as they wanna be makes the entire forums unpalatable for those who are sharing the forums with them. THIS is why we need forum reform. And again, I implore you, consider your karma! coco |
Iridian Oz
Registered User
Join date: 9 Feb 2005
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07-20-2005 04:54
Enabran, << You have to be grown up enough to handle less than friendly situations, otherwise it's definitely not for you.>> For some reason this made me laugh out loud. The reason being, of course, that the less-than-friendly situations are invariably caused by those who are definitely *not* grown up, despite their chronological age. It strikes me as so sad that when you put many people in a position of anonymity, and therefore physical safety, they tend to abuse it. But then we know already, don't we, that power tends to corrupt? Being anonymous is being in a powerful situation. I remember the old days of CB radio where you used to get the same kind of thing. People behind microphones would utter the same kind of abuse and threats that we see on the forums, but if you ever met them face to face, they would be polite and diffident. Not the most pleasant of human characteristics IMO. Made you laugh out loud? you're too good to type "LOL"? Why not dismiss people with shorthand? Get over yourself and enjoy your parklife. |
Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
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07-20-2005 08:24
Thick skin is a valuable asset anywhere. As someone once said: "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milk bone underwear.".
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
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07-20-2005 09:03
And this is what I feel: There are some people here who will be mean no matter what. They have no sense of propriety or appropriateness whatever, and apparently have no intention of ever changing their minds about anything, or becoming friends, or giving second chances, or even bothering being humane. If you treat people in a manner consistent with those assumptions then you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Odds are that you will never get along with them and are equally complicit. _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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07-20-2005 12:27
This one particularly. I voted yes. Besides my own experience with forums, I have in the past few months asked other people for their opinion of these forums, vs other game forums they have participated in. These come in at the bottom of the heap. Admittedly, this is by far no scientific study, but it does confirm what I feel. And this is what I feel: There are some people here who will be mean no matter what. They have no sense of propriety or appropriateness whatever, and apparently have no intention of ever changing their minds about anything, or becoming friends, or giving second chances, or even bothering being humane. That business in the apology thread that was locked. I keep thinking people can't possibly go any lower - yet they do. That one is even lower behavior than the shunning thing. And I thought nothing could top that. That business in the apology thread was something utterly shameful. Some people absolutely INSIST on their right to be mean here, and will do it till the participants are dead, I suppose. They are incapable of seeing that it is a person at the other end of the keyboard JUST LIKE THEM. They indulge in this and that psychiatric analysis of their victim, when - lucky for them - their victim, and others who would never stoop that low, are good enough not to give unsolicited psychological analyses of them. I have never seen worse behavior anywhere, online, in forums, in real life - not ANYWHERE - in my whole life than I do here. Some of you ought to think about whether or not being mean to another person - saying HIDEOUS things that you would never get away with saying irl - is actually worth however clever or cool it makes you feel. And when you pile on to do it as a bunch, think about whether those feelings of comraderie and in-group coolness and all that, is worth what you are doing to another person. Other people said in that thread that it was like being in grade school or high school again. I have to say, I never saw anything this bad in any of my school years. The fact that some people think these forums are their personal playground for being as mean and cruel and CHILDISH as they wanna be makes the entire forums unpalatable for those who are sharing the forums with them. THIS is why we need forum reform. And again, I implore you, consider your karma! coco It's such a shame you seem to be incapable of applying this reasoning across the board. Your friend Prokofy was the meanest person to ever stain these boards - yet he gets a free pass from you. He invaded 100s of threads with personal attacks, and thereby incited flamewars by the score, which many, many times resulted in closed threads. I also find it interesting that when Catherine called me a fucking moron and a a piece of shit the other day, you were no where to be found, and have made no comment about that. Your selectivity and bias when pointing our "bad behavior" is SO glaringly obvious, Coco. Karma indeed. Ask your "brilliant" friend Prokofy about karma. By now, he should know all about it. _____________________
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
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07-20-2005 12:41
Just wondering something here so I'm gonna post a poll about it. Feel free to stay on topic and discuss if you want. If your thinking about posting to the SL forums you should be Thick-skinned: Yes or No Thick-skinned Meaning: impervious to criticism: not easily offended by criticism or insults Edited for clearification ![]() But I would have picked a middle option like just "thick skin" instead of "very" thick. The reason is there are lots of worse forums than here IMO. . _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
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07-20-2005 12:47
This thread MUST be about my circumcision.
loll guy jok machomann fic hahaha _____________________
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
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07-20-2005 12:59
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ![]() I have seen Panda's boot marks on a few forum corpses. I have heard that even Lindens are not infallible. ![]() _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
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07-20-2005 13:08
err, um.. well dont know how to say this but ... I have seen Panda's boot marks on a few forum corpses. I have heard that even Lindens are not infallible. ![]() ![]() _____________________
"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."
~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media "That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline." ~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game. |
Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
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07-20-2005 19:24
If you treat people in a manner consistent with those assumptions then you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Odds are that you will never get along with them and are equally complicit. He's absolutely right. Your friend Prokofy was the meanest person to ever stain these boards - yet he gets a free pass from you. He invaded 100s of threads with personal attacks, and thereby incited flamewars by the score, which many, many times resulted in closed threads. I also find it interesting that when Catherine called me a fucking moron and a a piece of shit the other day, you were no where to be found, and have made no comment about that. Your selectivity and bias when pointing our "bad behavior" is SO glaringly obvious, Coco. So is he. The reason is there are lots of worse forums than here IMO. Yes. edit: Holy crap, post 800. I really need to stop. I wish I could stop whenever I wanted. But I can't. ![]() _____________________
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Nisa Stravinsky
Danger Mouse
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07-21-2005 07:15
![]() OMG this made me snort my latte all over my keyboard. I love you Panda, think Arbel will let you have my baby? _____________________
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
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07-21-2005 17:03
This thread MUST be about my circumcision. Poor Panda - you should sue your parents for assault and battery. ![]() _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
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07-22-2005 12:25
Poor Panda - you should sue your parents for assault and battery. ![]() I think it would be preferable to establish damages for the missing foreskin. Decreased sensitivity, lack of individuality, loss of nature's protective case for one of its most critical instruments... you get the idea. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
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07-22-2005 12:44
I think it would be preferable to establish damages for the missing foreskin. Decreased sensitivity, lack of individuality, loss of nature's protective case for one of its most critical instruments... you get the idea. True - that would also work, but since they do not use any form of pain suppression when doing the operation, it could be cruel and unusual punishment. _____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-23-2005 03:16
I also find it interesting that when Catherine called me a fucking moron and a a piece of shit the other day, you were no where to be found, and have made no comment about that. Nolan, As you very well know, both comments were IN RESPONSE to attacks made on her (against a background of constant attacks). And as I remember, the second comment was a general one, and not aimed at you specifically. I pointed this out to you in a previous posting, mentioning a child who was bullied at my primary school, and whose lashing out in response was used by the bullies as a further reason to attack him. Your response, as I recall, was to accuse me of saying I thought that Catherine had Asperger's Syndrome. It almost appears that you are deliberately misunderstanding these comments and deliberately not distinguishing the general from the specific, because your general level of intelligence seems such that it's difficult to believe you are really incapable of understanding such an obvious thing. Please understand that the following is a general comment, and is genuinely not directed specifically at you. I can understand how on these forums one can take a dislike to certain people. There are people on here that I dislike, because I think they are bending their considerable talents to base ends. But if I proceeded to hound them and harry them at every opportunity, I would end up hating what I had become. ![]() _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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07-24-2005 13:42
Nolan, As you very well know, both comments were IN RESPONSE to attacks made on her (against a background of constant attacks). And as I remember, the second comment was a general one, and not aimed at you specifically. I pointed this out to you in a previous posting, mentioning a child who was bullied at my primary school, and whose lashing out in response was used by the bullies as a further reason to attack him. Your response, as I recall, was to accuse me of saying I thought that Catherine had Asperger's Syndrome. It almost appears that you are deliberately misunderstanding these comments and deliberately not distinguishing the general from the specific, because your general level of intelligence seems such that it's difficult to believe you are really incapable of understanding such an obvious thing. Please understand that the following is a general comment, and is genuinely not directed specifically at you. I can understand how on these forums one can take a dislike to certain people. There are people on here that I dislike, because I think they are bending their considerable talents to base ends. But if I proceeded to hound them and harry them at every opportunity, I would end up hating what I had become. ![]() 1) Caps and large fonts do not make you right. 2) Two wrongs do not make a right. This is by no means an admission of guilt on my part as to having made personal attacks on Catherine. Too many times, yourself and Catherine seem to employ limitless latitude when defining personal attacks - in many cases someone simply disagreeing with her is called such. That's utter hogwash. I was called a fucking moron by her - please, oh self appointed magistrate of the forums, sitting on high - tell me what comment I made to her that warranted that type of personal attack. She was edited by Jeska in our exchange Selador, not I. 3) Speaking for others motivations, in this case Catherine's, does not make you right - although speaking for others and their motivations surely seems to be your forte. 4) This garbage about deliberately misunderstanding? Nope. Dead wrong, and to be quite honest, I really think that this is a trait of yours. 5) I was speaking to Coco, not you - and on top of that - we then talked about things in private. For one like yourself who portrays himself as some sort of saint - I would think that if you have some sort of personal problem with me after our exchange in a seperate thread, contacting me personally might fall in line with your belief set. However, since you react as you do, one might think that you are misrepresenting yourself. I am now placing you on mute - please return me the favor. |
Selador Cellardoor
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07-24-2005 17:13
1) Caps and large fonts do not make you right. No, but they do relieve the feelings when one has been saying the same thing over and over and it is apparently ignored. For one like yourself who portrays himself as some sort of saint Portrays myself? Portrays myself? I have been coming onto these forums for years now, making sure I polished my halo every time, sticking in my St. Sebastian arrows, and you think it's not genuine? Well, I will forgive you. *seraphic smile* I would think that if you have some sort of personal problem with me after our exchange in a seperate thread, contacting me personally might fall in line with your belief set. However, since you react as you do, one might think that you are misrepresenting yourself. Well, I can assure you that I have no problem with you at all. But I don't believe in replying to public messages with private ones. I do have a problem with the behaviour of some people in this forum, but I don't think I have ever singled you out. I am now placing you on mute - please return me the favor. No - were I to do that in response to a critical posting I would consider myself a coward. Not only that, a coward who was using a childish tactic of covering my ears so as not to hear the criticism. Obiously your motivations are different. Assuming that Nolan sticks to his word and doesn't read this posting, here, for the benefit of others, is an interesting quote that I found on a recent website. It pretty much sums up my feelings:- "Even ordinary, nice people often become pretty awful on line, as the buffered safety of this medium seems to lower inhibitions faster than guzzling a bottle of fortified wine would. Ordinarily decent people say things and do things on line that they would never consider saying or doing if they were face to face with you. This is a medium of egotistical rudeness, of ruthless aggression where people who are friends one day are dire enemies the next, and of a weird kind of showing off and one-upmanship: the sort of showing off that can only be done with rhetorical games such as logic chopping, dictionary-definition quoting, and calculated fits of outrage, and with building a strong "gang" or following of virtual henchmen who staunchly support you and attack anyone who doesn't." - Polly Peachum, ‘The Chilling Winds of Cyberia’ _____________________
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Enabran Templar
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07-24-2005 17:51
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