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Speak Fucking English!

Cornelius Bach
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04-07-2004 14:57
From: someone
Originally posted by Julian Fate
Amerigo Vespucci was Italian. He lived in Spain and Portugal when he wasn't exploring South America.


Damn those Italians! Offshoring jobs even back then!. :) OK.. It's LATIN either way :)
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Julian Fate
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04-07-2004 15:06
Can't we all put our differences behind us and join together to discriminate against potential life on other planets? Forget black skin or epicanthic folds, how about tentacles for crying out loud? And you just know those hive minds would move here and start taking all the good jobs. Or cyborgs. Those will probably be a reality before long. Let's hate them.

I need some good ethnic slurs for aliens. The best I have is bemmies from Bug Eyed Monsters and E.T.'s. Man I hate aliens. You think Mandingo was bad? Check out scifi creatures from the 50's. Those guys don't even have compatible genitalia and they're still after our women.
Juro Kothari
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on a side note...
04-07-2004 15:52
my family came over from spain 2 generations ago. while this is a totally different generation, you were not allowed to speak spanish outside of the house. you were only allowed to speak spanish *in* the house if there was no company.

as much as great grandma tried.. she really couldn't speak english very well... she added an 'e' to every word that began with an 's'. she also talked back to the movies, but whatever. :D


solution to this language problem: everyone learn and use sign language. ;)
Kathy Yamamoto
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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04-07-2004 20:00
Cyanide,

Please learn to speak proper English. I'm tired of all these lazy, selfish, intolerant half-wits who refuse to think about what they say, or how they'll say it, before butchering their English in public.

Would it destroy your last brain cell to actually think for a moment before opening your mouth?

Go back to where you came from. My calculations place that somewhere up your posterior orifice.
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Julia Curie
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04-07-2004 21:30
I r teh r0xx0r
Leilany LaFollette
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04-08-2004 11:17
Cyanide... there are no laws in the US requiring anyone to speak any language in particular. Except for a handful of states whio declared English their language, anyone's free to speak whatever they please, so it's pointless to get all worked up about it :) I know! How about you learn some spanish so you can communicate with the largest minority in this country? It'd be fun, plus you'd broaden your horizons as you gained a new skill ;)

*hugs*
Leilany
Devlin Gallant
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04-08-2004 12:07
I wanna learn Navajo.
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Jellin Pico
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04-08-2004 12:08
From: someone
Originally posted by Julian Fate
Can't we all put our differences behind us and join together to discriminate against potential life on other planets? Forget black skin or epicanthic folds, how about tentacles for crying out loud? And you just know those hive minds would move here and start taking all the good jobs. Or cyborgs. Those will probably be a reality before long. Let's hate them.

I need some good ethnic slurs for aliens. The best I have is bemmies from Bug Eyed Monsters and E.T.'s. Man I hate aliens. You think Mandingo was bad? Check out scifi creatures from the 50's. Those guys don't even have compatible genitalia and they're still after our women.


I agree! I think we should declare Neptune an Enemy Planet immediately and move to send a adequate number of troops to pacify this glaring threat to our world!

I'm also highly suspicious of Ganymede.
Julian Fate
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Join date: 19 Oct 2003
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04-08-2004 13:35
From: someone
solution to this language problem: everyone learn and use sign language.


Would that be ASL, PSE, SEE, International Sign, BSL...? :)
Leonn Rubio
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04-13-2004 10:15
Lye anta quena i'lammen tel'edhel.
Devlin Gallant
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04-13-2004 19:31
Elvish?
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Cornelius Bach
Lord of Typos
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04-14-2004 13:59
From: someone
Originally posted by Leonn Rubio
Lye anta quena i'lammen tel'edhel.


HOW DARE YOU! I Saw Dances with Wolves, I know what that means :P
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Re: Speak Fucking English!
04-14-2004 14:27
From: someone
Originally posted by Cyanide Leviathan
Ok, if you live in the united states of america, SPEAK ENGLISH GODDAMNIT im SICK of all these south americans and puerto ricans coming up here and refusing to learn how to speak ENGLISH in public. When the United states declared its independence... do you know what the Decleration of independence was written in, it was ENGLISH! FUCKINg, ENGLISH OK??

QUE? No Hablo Ingles!
I am sorry to say but you are very ignorant, the United States is about Freedom, and they can speak whatever language they want to! Someone can say the same to you, and tell you to get a better education and learn other languages, and I surely hope you never plan to leave the US for any reason, would be a shame to run into someone as ignorant as yourself in another country..
Leonn Rubio
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04-17-2004 09:19
From: someone
Originally posted by Cornelius Bach
HOW DARE YOU! I Saw Dances with Wolves, I know what that means :P


We should all speak the language of the elves... lol.

I should clarify that the elven language I use is tel'Mithrim and it's only loosly based on Tolkien's Quenya language.

My Quenya is worse than my Spanish and I have not learned caligraphy to write the letters. It's fun to learn if you have the time.
Christopher Omega
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Join date: 28 Mar 2003
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04-19-2004 16:57
From: someone
Originally posted by Kiari LeFay
Maybe the problem is you're comparing two entirely different grammar structures and expecting them both to make sense in the traditional English style?

I've made comparisons like that many times when responding to questions about my time in Japan; the point of the comparison is not that Japanese is vague, but that the grammar structure is totally different. A direct translation of Japanese to English will be confusing because Japanese has a Subject/Object/Verb structure and English has a Subject/Verb/Object structure.

The man went through the door is totally coherent in English. Ano otoko wa toguschi o nakahehairimasu is totally coherent in Japanese. (provided I've spelt it right, that is...)


I agree here. Learning Japanese when born speaking English is quite a confusing process. One of the rules my Japanese teacher laid down near the beginning of teaching the language was that, always, the verb comes last in a sentence, in English, it bridges the subject and predicate, and occurs near the middle. When you run pure japanese through a japanese -> english translator, that's why it sounds garbled. Its difficult for a simple parser to rearrange sentence structure without garbling the sentence even more. (That's why auto-translator earpieces haven't caught on ;) ).

Japanese seems initially hard to learn. This is mainly because Japanese is totally not based on phonetic structure, like English is. In Japanese, the main 'problem' for learners is the numerous interpretations for the same sound and symbol. This brings up another problem with auto-translators, they arent smart enough to use context to figure out the meaning of a pronunciation.

One of the things I love about Japanese writing is that, when used in practice, its super-easy to tell between native words (they're in kanji), foreign words (they're in katakana), and sentence structure items (they're in hiragana). The three different writing systems is another big problem that learners have to take on.

Also, there are things that make Japanese easier to understand, such as the w(o) hiragana particle (sometimes only written as o). It itentifys the direct object in a sentence, whereas English expects you to 'understand' that a particular thing is the direct object.

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You can actually learn Quenya?!? Ooh! Coolies!

I plan on studying Spanish later on, having three substantially different languags (one sandskrit (English), one romance (Spanish), and one phonetic (Japanese)) is interesting (IMO). :D

==Chris
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