Teens In SL

Does anyone else find it a bit disheartening that Linden is even considering allowing Teens into SL. Restricted or not they find ways around.. IMO teens in means adults leaving due to immaturity and garbage. Just wondering what anyone else thought.
Thanks.

this is pretty much what they thought. have fun reading

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I'd be happy with an age min of 16 but im sure a lot of people go onto this game to escape their young kids

Teens already play SL they just don't tell anyone. I don't think there will be much change.

If they open a teen grid, they will market it. TV ads, Magazine ads etc.

Will increase awareness, but not about the teen grid, no-one will want to be there. Theyll all want to be here once they realise what there is.

Result - huge increase in kids sneaking in here with parents credit cards after trying the teen grid for a week or two - deterioration in behaviour - finally some court cases and newspaper reports re inappropriate sexuality by minors.
Get us a bad name or worse.

Dont do it.

Does anyone relise that they will have THEIR OWN SEPERATE GRID. everyone is complainign tht they will be among us and eating our prim turkey sandwiches. Does it rreally matter? Let em look at porn, let em make perverted stuffs, they'll find out sooner or later anyhow *shrugs*

Um, there's already immaturity and garbage. And imature drama too :/ Age doesn't nessesarily = maturity. The internet has more than proven that.

can you pick stocks too?

Kinda like yourself, Mr. Runon?

Y is this an issue...they wont bother us we have our grid they have theirs. U say u come here to escape kids, im sure kids come here to esape us and have their own world, there for i think it's a good thing. Not like there will be any interaction or anything will change for us! Think of it from another prospective!

I think the point some of them are trying to make is that they beleave the teens will come to our SL instead of staying in theirs when they see the difference.

I'm willing to bet the Teen version of SL is going to be very watered down to prevent certan things from happening; i.e. porn.

I'm going to note that everything I've just said is an oppinion based on what I know about teenagers. I'm 21 so it hasn't been that long since I've been a teenager.

Barmovic, I wouldn't worry. I have seen rough drafts of the new SL promotional material, and you can tell they are making an effort to prevent kids from having an unhealthy fascination with the adult grid. At the risk of violating my NDA with Linden Labs...I'm gonna paste a quick sample:




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Also available Second Life for adults featuring poignant discussions with Secretary of Education, Margaret Spellings and the senior host of NPR's All Things Considered, Robert Siegel. Also this week David and Tom Gardner of The Motley Fool will discuss The S&P 500 Index Fund.

Through these discusssions, I often find myself comparing the potential of an SL Teen Grid to the actuality of PalTalk, a cam/chat site with "G","R", and "X" rooms for adults; and "G" rooms for teens.

Considering that PalTalk adult rooms have titles like "Ladies Watching Men Get Hard And Maybe Helping", the site is certain to attract some percentage of both teens and adults wanting to taste forbidden fruits in off-limits rooms.
If I remember correctly from looking over my teenage sister's shoulder, the teen rooms are administered by teens -- "No Adults" means "No Adults", including in-room supervision.
Further, nothing prevents an adult clicking into a teen room, or a teen into an adult room -- PalTalk does not have a "seperate grid".


Re: the potential of court cases, bad publicity, etc., I've not been able to reference anything of the sort happening to PalTalk -- and if it would happen to anyone, it would happen to that zoo-like operation. Anyone know?

Personally, I'm not much worried about a teen grid -- I think it'll be very like my sister's experience of PalTalk:

If some exhibitionist kid enters a teen room, there'll a dozen or so other kids who'll cap shout "EWWW GROSS, WANKER ON CAM", and he gets booted.
If an adult goes into a teen room, the guy gets permabanned from the room (and maybe abuse reported -- I'm not sure) amidst howls of laughter about being hung so small. Then they get on with the important stuff of discussing movies and music.

Point is, the kids on PalTalk seem to be self-monitoring, and do a good job of it from what I've seen. My bet is, it'll be much the same in the teen grid, with the happy addition of Linden monitoring. The kids do alright in the completely uncontrolled environment of PalTalk; a teen SL grid by contrast will have adult control measures.

Adequate control? That's for the parent to decide. If parents absolutely don't want to risk their kid occassionally exposed to this sort of thing, then they likely shouldn't let their kid into a teen SL.

We've been told that Linden monitoring will be there, but realistically that can go only so far. It's the parents who need to understand the realities of the world outside their home, and particularly on the net, and then act according to their own good morality and judgement.

Nope - I just got teen kids. I listen to them and their friends. They don't want into a "babies" grid. They want into the real thing, with all its content and complexity.

So will all the others. How many non-tech parents will know which grid their kids are in, once they've given permission to enter "secondlife" and handed over their credit card ?

The kids just need to terminate one account, and open another. If the charge is the same, there won't even be a clue on the credit card statement.

Isn't the "teen grid" already in place? I read the new TSO etc after logging into 1.6 and the provisions were already made so I doubt any amount of discussion is going to change anything at this stage in the game...

No. It's coming soon. Next coulple of weeks/months.

Also, from what I've gathered, the teen grid will be heavily monitored by liasons, otherwise it will be the real deal.

Lf

May seem mean, but all that monitoring sounds expensive in terms of deployed manpower.

Suggests they should pay quite a bit more than we do.
If they don't, guess who will be subsidising this venture. Us.

And according to the poll, a substantial majority of us think its a bad idea.

Ah well, I expect the new investors are insisting.

Here's a tip. On the SL forums, the vast majority of new ideas/programs/implementations are hated by a majority of the folks here. Why? Because people don't like change.

OMFG 1.2 WILL RUIN CHRISTMAS

OMFG ANIMATIONS WILL USHER IN SMUT IN UNHEARD OF LEVELS!

OMFG TEENZ WILL EAT MY BABY!

OMFG GOVERNMENT

OMFG DEVELOPER INCENTIVES

OMFG MONEY IN SL

OMFG COLLEGE STUDENTS DOING RESEARCH

OMFG SEX

OMFG COMMERCIALS

And so on and so on and so on.

The great thing is, SL is a big place now. You don't have to see any of the above shit if you don't want to.

The teen grid, we won't see it. It will be some other land we'll only have cursory knowledge of.

Do you know how to get rid of a minor on the main grid? Abuse report him with the subject line "possible minor". The lindens suspend the account and ask for proof of age (faxed driver's license) before reinstating the account.


Blah..

This isn't a rant directed at you, barm, I'm just venting at the communinty in general.

LF

From what i observe there is no way to out-immature some of the adults (and i think they really are adults) in this game.



C.

This is the perfect example of what we will get a taste of. This is an adult discussion reacted upon with childlike behavior. Sheesh.

The equation is simple.

Kids come = I go.

Depends, I guess, who you think has control of the credit card/monthly bill.

/esc

(I think LF was joking around giving examples what the forums might look like when they go live )

I am aware of teens as young as 14 playing SL. I find some to be more mature than their adult counterparts.

Everyone needs to consider predators trying to get onto the teen grid to seduce teens.

I think it's a bad idea.

Indeed. In fact we should keep them in a sterile box until the magical age of 18 when all of a sudden they become adults and automatically know how to deal with the world.