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Darko Cellardoor
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04-09-2005 11:47
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Ewan Took
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04-09-2005 12:41
From: Random Unsung The TOS talks about "belittling, demeaning," etc. And that's what this does for me, as a Catholic. It denigrates the leader of our Church, and maligns me personally and my religion, and it does it when the people of this faith are mourning the passing of a great leader.
Honestly, you can condemn the Church's appalling behavior on covering up pedophiles, as I do, you can be extremely critical about the Church's attitude towards gays, as I do, and come out for gay rights and advocate forcefully for prosecution of pedophiles, as I do, but you don't have to malign the spiritual and religious leader of a religion and get all cynical and superior because there are aspects of the Church that are wrong. That fact is, this exhibit is stupid, scatalogical, and indecent.
And you don't have to put up a pizza sign that says "ALL HAIL THE IRON FIST OF COMMUNISM" either. That iron fist killed my relatives. And this Pope at least fought aginst that iron fist that killed many people's relatives, as well as fighting against the iron fist of oligarchic capitalism that killed other people's relatives.
So, honestly, I mourn this particular Pope's passing, I commend his remarkable life, and I say that asshats that make "art" like this are to be condemned as indecent and disrespectful, whatever their rights are promoted by the PC crowd out in California.
I can't help wondering if this exhibit were against gays, Muslims, or Jews, instead of Catholics, if we wouldn't have seen a far swifter response from the Lindens as far as banning the creators or removing it from the game.
Who decides what is belittling and demeaning? Could we hear some more guidance from the Lindens on their evaluation procedures? Anyone could shit in a newspaper and call it art. No way would I let this childish nonsense get anywhere near belittling what I believe in. Try your hand at 'free speech' yourself......'POOPY DOO' 'BIG JOBBIES' 'PEE PEE' 'CRAPPY PANTS'....yay I've just made a hilarious political statement that shows my commitment to free speech and is directly against the tyranny of organised religion and Second Life censorship.
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daz Groshomme
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04-09-2005 12:42
Cardinal Law given role of honor in mourning for pope even though he resigned over sex abuse scandal Rachel Zoll, Associated Press April 7, 2005 POPE0408.LAW ? ? VATICAN CITY -— Cardinal Bernard Law, who resigned in disgrace as archbishop of Boston over his role in the clergy sex abuse crisis, has been given a role of honor in the mourning for Pope John Paul II.
The Vatican announced today he will lead one of the daily Masses celebrated in the pope's memory during the nine-day period that follows the funeral, called Novemdiales. The service will be held Monday at Rome's St. Mary Major Basilica, where Law was appointed archpriest after leaving Boston.
Some Roman Catholics in his former archdiocese immediately protested.
Suzanne Morse, spokeswoman for Voice of the Faithful, a Massachusetts-based reform group that emerged from the scandal, said Law's visibility since the pope's death has been "extremely painful'' both for abuse survivors and rank-and-file Catholics.
"It certainly shows and puts a spotlight on the lack of accountability in the Catholic Church, that the most visible bishop in the clergy sexual abuse crisis has been given these honorary opportunities,'' she said.
David Clohessy, national director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, called it "terribly insensitive.''
"It rubs salt into the already deep wounds of victims and it allows the best-documented complicit bishop to exploit the pope's death for his own selfish purposes,'' Clohessy said.
Law did not respond to a phone message left at the basilica.
Law stepped down as archbishop within months after a judge unsealed court records in January 2002 that showed he had allowed priests with confirmed histories of molesting children to continue working in parishes.
Among the records were letters Law had written to some of the predators expressing support and thanks for their service to the church.
Many Boston Catholics already were upset about the pope's decision to appoint him to the basilica. The post is ceremonial but highly visible; the church is one of four basilicas under direct Vatican jurisdiction.
Chester Gillis, an expert in Catholicism at Georgetown University, said celebrating a Mass during the mourning period is not only an honor, but a position of influence.
In their homilies, cardinals usually indicate what they think are the key issues for the church ahead. Observers scour the speeches for clues to how a cardinal will vote.
"This is an ability to express oneself to one's colleagues all at one time,'' Gillis said.
Washington Cardinal Theodore McCarrick said he did not know why Law was chosen, but said it was likely because the basilica is one of the great churches of Rome.
"It would be a natural selection,'' McCarrick said. "The choice was certainly not made for any reason except to honor St. Mary Major.''
Asked if it was a Vatican signal that Law should be forgiven, McCarrick said, "I think we feel we are all Easter people. ... We look at the light rather than the darkness.''
The fourth-largest U.S. diocese has been shaken not only by Law's resignation after 18 years, but also by settlements of more than $85 million with more than 550 victims.
Law's successor, Archbishop Sean O'Malley, has also had to oversee a series of painful parish closures as the archdiocese adjusts to a shortage of priests and drop in collections.
O'Malley, in Rome for the pope's funeral, declined to comment on Law.
"We're here to talk about the pope,'' he said.
In Boston, Ronald Lacey, 35, was among those who said Law's resignation as archbishop was irrelevant to his role in memorializing the pope.
"I think it was right for him to leave the Archdiocese of Boston. But if he grieves the death of the Holy Father, I think that's right, too,'' said Lacey, who was attending midday Mass at a downtown church.
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Associated Press writer Mark Jewell in Boston contributed to this report
The only reason why Cardinal Law is not in jail is that he is a catholic, any other boss that did the same thing would be in jail, so if catholics are offended by W-Hat's art, I think it is trivial compared to offensive nature of their own...
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Ewan Took
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04-09-2005 12:48
From: daz Groshomme Cardinal Law given role of honor in mourning for pope even though he resigned over sex abuse scandal Rachel Zoll, Associated Press April 7, 2005 POPE0408.LAW ? ? VATICAN CITY -— Cardinal Bernard Law, who resigned in disgrace as archbishop of Boston over his role in the clergy sex abuse crisis, has been given a role of honor in the mourning for Pope John Paul II.
The Vatican announced today he will lead one of the daily Masses celebrated in the pope's memory during the nine-day period that follows the funeral, called Novemdiales. The service will be held Monday at Rome's St. Mary Major Basilica, where Law was appointed archpriest after leaving Boston.
Some Roman Catholics in his former archdiocese immediately protested.
Suzanne Morse, spokeswoman for Voice of the Faithful, a Massachusetts-based reform group that emerged from the scandal, said Law's visibility since the pope's death has been "extremely painful'' both for abuse survivors and rank-and-file Catholics.
"It certainly shows and puts a spotlight on the lack of accountability in the Catholic Church, that the most visible bishop in the clergy sexual abuse crisis has been given these honorary opportunities,'' she said.
David Clohessy, national director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, called it "terribly insensitive.''
"It rubs salt into the already deep wounds of victims and it allows the best-documented complicit bishop to exploit the pope's death for his own selfish purposes,'' Clohessy said.
Law did not respond to a phone message left at the basilica.
Law stepped down as archbishop within months after a judge unsealed court records in January 2002 that showed he had allowed priests with confirmed histories of molesting children to continue working in parishes.
Among the records were letters Law had written to some of the predators expressing support and thanks for their service to the church.
Many Boston Catholics already were upset about the pope's decision to appoint him to the basilica. The post is ceremonial but highly visible; the church is one of four basilicas under direct Vatican jurisdiction.
Chester Gillis, an expert in Catholicism at Georgetown University, said celebrating a Mass during the mourning period is not only an honor, but a position of influence.
In their homilies, cardinals usually indicate what they think are the key issues for the church ahead. Observers scour the speeches for clues to how a cardinal will vote.
"This is an ability to express oneself to one's colleagues all at one time,'' Gillis said.
Washington Cardinal Theodore McCarrick said he did not know why Law was chosen, but said it was likely because the basilica is one of the great churches of Rome.
"It would be a natural selection,'' McCarrick said. "The choice was certainly not made for any reason except to honor St. Mary Major.''
Asked if it was a Vatican signal that Law should be forgiven, McCarrick said, "I think we feel we are all Easter people. ... We look at the light rather than the darkness.''
The fourth-largest U.S. diocese has been shaken not only by Law's resignation after 18 years, but also by settlements of more than $85 million with more than 550 victims.
Law's successor, Archbishop Sean O'Malley, has also had to oversee a series of painful parish closures as the archdiocese adjusts to a shortage of priests and drop in collections.
O'Malley, in Rome for the pope's funeral, declined to comment on Law.
"We're here to talk about the pope,'' he said.
In Boston, Ronald Lacey, 35, was among those who said Law's resignation as archbishop was irrelevant to his role in memorializing the pope.
"I think it was right for him to leave the Archdiocese of Boston. But if he grieves the death of the Holy Father, I think that's right, too,'' said Lacey, who was attending midday Mass at a downtown church.
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Associated Press writer Mark Jewell in Boston contributed to this report
The only reason why Cardinal Law is not in jail is that he is a catholic, any other boss that did the same thing would be in jail, so if catholics are offended by W-Hat's art, I think it is trivial compared to offensive nature of their own... Damn that Pope sure does deserve to be called a big poop.
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daz Groshomme
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04-09-2005 12:52
From: Ewan Took Damn that Pope sure does deserve to be called a big poop. haha! I dunno about that, I'm sure he meant well and tried to do good things, but allowing a criminal to hide out in the Vatican rather than face jail time for coddling molestors sure doesn't make him look good...
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Caleb Moreau
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04-09-2005 16:06
<.< >.>
Is it bad that I broke out singing while reading the lyrics posted up there?
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daz Groshomme
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04-09-2005 16:43
From: Caleb Moreau <.< >.>
Is it bad that I broke out singing while reading the lyrics posted up there? If you are Michael Bolton or Yanni, it is bad, if you are George Michael or Boy George it is good.
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Caleb Moreau
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04-09-2005 17:25
From: daz Groshomme If you are Michael Bolton or Yanni, it is bad, if you are George Michael or Boy George it is good. And if I'm neither, does that just mean I get a light flogging? 
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daz Groshomme
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04-09-2005 17:30
From: Caleb Moreau And if I'm neither, does that just mean I get a light flogging?  nah, well maybe by some leather clad ladies, but amature singing is quite acceptable!
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Lance Hedges
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04-09-2005 18:14
O-o fluffing bishes >=(
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doug Donovan
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04-10-2005 00:12
4-10-2005: pope still dead. have a nice day.
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Adohan Zephyr
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04-11-2005 00:34
I hear that due to mis-information and an obscure opposition to contraceptives the church is responsible for the current aids crisis
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Random Unsung
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04-11-2005 00:39
From: someone I hear that due to mis-information and an obscure opposition to contraceptives the church is responsible for the current aids crisis ROFL. No, it's actually people fucking lots of different other people that is responsible for the AIDS crisis, not the Church.
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Devlin Gallant
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04-11-2005 04:01
Everyone who has posted, is posting, or will post in this thread is a complete chucklehead. Uhm, wait... 
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04-11-2005 09:18
killing it... too tired to jump in the pool today 
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Jeska Linden
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04-11-2005 09:52
I'm not sure how most of this relates to SL and after reading all of the angry personal attacks and inflammatory language on a Monday morning, I'm sure that productive conversation left this thread some time ago (if it was ever here at all). As such I'm closing it.
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