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Buster Peel

Spat the dummy.

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,242

07-21-2005 11:13

I want to run SL on TRS-DOS.

But seriously, they have to draw a line someplace. I'd rather have them working on making a Linux client instead of working on historical compatibility.

Richard Pinkerton

Registered User

Join date: 20 Jan 2005

Posts: 125

07-21-2005 12:47

I feel sorry for people that are stuck with WinME (or 98 even!) and genuinely can't upgrade to XP for some reason. I don't feel sorry for them because they can't play SL though - they've got much bigger problems than that.

Edav Roark

Bounty Hunter

Join date: 4 Sep 2003

Posts: 569

07-21-2005 13:08

From: Buster Peel

I want to run SL on TRS-DOS.

But seriously, they have to draw a line someplace. I'd rather have them working on making a Linux client instead of working on historical compatibility.

Wow, I remember using that one in high school

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

07-21-2005 13:09

At the risk of sounding like a criminal, I just hacked the client onto my favourite OS.

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Jarod Godel

Utilitarian

Join date: 6 Nov 2003

Posts: 729

07-21-2005 13:32

Yeah, but mine's digital!

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Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

07-21-2005 13:44

Oh, come on! Everyone knows that an Etch-a-sketch has only the top of the line OS.. and it's more reliable than ME on its best day!

How do I know this? I've managed to keep Windows ME running for almost two years without updates or reinstalls! (It's now the kid's comp) I've had to reinstall XP at least once!

(Boggles the logic and then realizes it's an inside joke) If it's the buggiest, easily broken thing in the world, I will run it.. and without any problems. If it's supposed to be reliable, I kill it within a month.

For the record, I've replaced my etch-a-sketch at least 15 times in the last year!!!

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

07-21-2005 13:55

Oh Yeah! Well Just...

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Cristiano Midnight

Evil Snapshot Baron

Join date: 17 May 2003

Posts: 8,616

07-21-2005 14:34

Do you think they could also make an emulator so SL could run on my Donkey Kong tabletop machine? kthnxbye

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Laquita Maracas

She's A Brick House

Join date: 5 Dec 2003

Posts: 19

07-21-2005 14:52

Hey y'all! I gotta say SL on my import PSP that I bought in France is tha shit! Look at that color!

PS - upgrade your shit instead of whining!

Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

07-21-2005 14:52

From: Cristiano Midnight

Do you think they could also make an emulator so SL could run on my Donkey Kong tabletop machine? kthnxbye

Yes but you'd be very severly violating the TOS when you accessed it.

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Catherine Omega

Geometry Ninja

Join date: 10 Jan 2003

Posts: 2,053

07-21-2005 15:06

But seriously, WinME won't run SL because it lacks several key features that SL makes use of. Unicode font support, for one.

To get SL to run on older versions of Windows, they'd need to come up with some sort of special font rendering system specifically for older versions. This would be very time consuming.

For Linden Lab to invest the time necessary to force SL to run on WinME, they would need to expect that the benefit to both SL and their bottom line from extending support to Win95/98/Me systems would outweigh the benefits they could expect to see from continuing to work on bugs and adding new features.

In short, while it's possible that it could be done, the number of potential users running older versions of Windows and whose computers meet the minimum specifications is extremely low. Far lower, in fact, than the potential number of Linux users.

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Huns Valen

Don't PM me here.

Join date: 3 May 2003

Posts: 2,749

07-21-2005 16:16

From: Teddy Kennedy

Screw windows ME, I demand a version of Second Life for the TI 99/4a

More like TI 85!

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Edav Roark

Bounty Hunter

Join date: 4 Sep 2003

Posts: 569

07-21-2005 16:35

The Radio Shack TRS-80 would work great. It would take up a lot of tapes though.

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Teeny Leviathan

Never started World War 3

Join date: 20 May 2003

Posts: 2,716

07-21-2005 16:38

From: Adam Zaius

That's nothing.

I hear the user server is actually Phoenix Linden in a closet with big stacks of parchment and an inkwell.

-Adam

Wrong. Its a little monkey in a box with a stack of stone tablets and a chisel. Good, solid Flintstones technology!

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Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

07-21-2005 16:41

Tru, I hope you're not taking any of this personally.

The bottom line is that you should really think seriously about upgrading your system to XP. You'll be very happy that you did. Every month you keep using a win98 based system, the lower the percentage of new software you'll be able to run. I know it can be expensive to upgrade, but if you've gotten five years out of a system that's much longer than average and you can probably get at least that much use out of your next one... and the performance difference between it and what you're used to will be huge (in a very good way).

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Kathmandu Gilman

Fearful Symmetry Baby!

Join date: 21 May 2004

Posts: 1,418

07-21-2005 20:03

Aha! Second Life on a Lite Brite! With better frame rate!

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

07-21-2005 20:20

From: Kathmandu Gilman

Aha! Second Life on a Lite Brite! With better frame rate!

That's not a Lite Brite, it's Felecia standing in front of her cottage near the Bashi fortress.

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Jarod Godel

Utilitarian

Join date: 6 Nov 2003

Posts: 729

07-21-2005 20:33

From: Khamon Fate

That's not a Lite Brite, it's Felecia standing in front of her cottage near the Bashi fortress.

It's truly amazing what you can do with a 4mb video card.

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Vincent Cinquetti

Happy-go-lucky scamp

Join date: 22 Jun 2005

Posts: 134

07-21-2005 23:21

From: Jarod Godel

Yeah, but mine's digital!

Isn't that one Abacus too? Or was it the Fossil version?

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Buster Peel Spat the dummy. Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,242	07-21-2005 11:13 I want to run SL on TRS-DOS. But seriously, they have to draw a line someplace. I'd rather have them working on making a Linux client instead of working on historical compatibility.
Richard Pinkerton Registered User Join date: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 125	07-21-2005 12:47 I feel sorry for people that are stuck with WinME (or 98 even!) and genuinely can't upgrade to XP for some reason. I don't feel sorry for them because they can't play SL though - they've got much bigger problems than that.
Edav Roark Bounty Hunter Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 569	07-21-2005 13:08 From: Buster Peel I want to run SL on TRS-DOS. But seriously, they have to draw a line someplace. I'd rather have them working on making a Linux client instead of working on historical compatibility. Wow, I remember using that one in high school _____________________
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	07-21-2005 13:09 At the risk of sounding like a criminal, I just hacked the client onto my favourite OS. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Jarod Godel Utilitarian Join date: 6 Nov 2003 Posts: 729	07-21-2005 13:32 Yeah, but mine's digital! _____________________ "All designers in SL need to be aware of the fact that there are now quite simple methods of complete texture theft in SL that are impossible to stop..." - Cristiano Midnight Ad aspera per intelligentem prohibitus.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	07-21-2005 13:44 Oh, come on! Everyone knows that an Etch-a-sketch has only the top of the line OS.. and it's more reliable than ME on its best day! How do I know this? I've managed to keep Windows ME running for almost two years without updates or reinstalls! (It's now the kid's comp) I've had to reinstall XP at least once! (Boggles the logic and then realizes it's an inside joke) If it's the buggiest, easily broken thing in the world, I will run it.. and without any problems. If it's supposed to be reliable, I kill it within a month. For the record, I've replaced my etch-a-sketch at least 15 times in the last year!!! _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	07-21-2005 13:55 Oh Yeah! Well Just... _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	07-21-2005 14:34 Do you think they could also make an emulator so SL could run on my Donkey Kong tabletop machine? kthnxbye _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
Laquita Maracas She's A Brick House Join date: 5 Dec 2003 Posts: 19	07-21-2005 14:52 Hey y'all! I gotta say SL on my import PSP that I bought in France is tha shit! Look at that color! PS - upgrade your shit instead of whining!
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	07-21-2005 14:52 From: Cristiano Midnight Do you think they could also make an emulator so SL could run on my Donkey Kong tabletop machine? kthnxbye Yes but you'd be very severly violating the TOS when you accessed it. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Catherine Omega Geometry Ninja Join date: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2,053	07-21-2005 15:06 But seriously, WinME won't run SL because it lacks several key features that SL makes use of. Unicode font support, for one. To get SL to run on older versions of Windows, they'd need to come up with some sort of special font rendering system specifically for older versions. This would be very time consuming. For Linden Lab to invest the time necessary to force SL to run on WinME, they would need to expect that the benefit to both SL and their bottom line from extending support to Win95/98/Me systems would outweigh the benefits they could expect to see from continuing to work on bugs and adding new features. In short, while it's possible that it could be done, the number of potential users running older versions of Windows and whose computers meet the minimum specifications is extremely low. Far lower, in fact, than the potential number of Linux users. _____________________ Need scripting help? Visit the LSL Wiki! Omega Point - Catherine Omega's Blog
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	07-21-2005 16:16 From: Teddy Kennedy Screw windows ME, I demand a version of Second Life for the TI 99/4a More like TI 85! _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Edav Roark Bounty Hunter Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 569	07-21-2005 16:35 The Radio Shack TRS-80 would work great. It would take up a lot of tapes though. _____________________
Teeny Leviathan Never started World War 3 Join date: 20 May 2003 Posts: 2,716	07-21-2005 16:38 From: Adam Zaius That's nothing. I hear the user server is actually Phoenix Linden in a closet with big stacks of parchment and an inkwell. -Adam Wrong. Its a little monkey in a box with a stack of stone tablets and a chisel. Good, solid Flintstones technology! _____________________ The Default Avatars were created by Linden Lab They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan.
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	07-21-2005 16:41 Tru, I hope you're not taking any of this personally. The bottom line is that you should really think seriously about upgrading your system to XP. You'll be very happy that you did. Every month you keep using a win98 based system, the lower the percentage of new software you'll be able to run. I know it can be expensive to upgrade, but if you've gotten five years out of a system that's much longer than average and you can probably get at least that much use out of your next one... and the performance difference between it and what you're used to will be huge (in a very good way). _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	07-21-2005 20:03 Aha! Second Life on a Lite Brite! With better frame rate! _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	07-21-2005 20:20 From: Kathmandu Gilman Aha! Second Life on a Lite Brite! With better frame rate! That's not a Lite Brite, it's Felecia standing in front of her cottage near the Bashi fortress. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Jarod Godel Utilitarian Join date: 6 Nov 2003 Posts: 729	07-21-2005 20:33 From: Khamon Fate That's not a Lite Brite, it's Felecia standing in front of her cottage near the Bashi fortress. It's truly amazing what you can do with a 4mb video card. _____________________ "All designers in SL need to be aware of the fact that there are now quite simple methods of complete texture theft in SL that are impossible to stop..." - Cristiano Midnight Ad aspera per intelligentem prohibitus.
Vincent Cinquetti Happy-go-lucky scamp Join date: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 134	07-21-2005 23:21 From: Jarod Godel Yeah, but mine's digital! Isn't that one Abacus too? Or was it the Fossil version? _____________________ Canceled my products as there is no interest. Abashed, the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is.

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