If you have to carry $47,000 - don't put it in your bra ....
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Rose Karuna
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06-24-2005 08:50
Ok - they found *NO DRUGS* on the woman but confiscated her cash anyway. So now if you are caught carrying cash (where ever you decide to actually carry it), it is automatically confiscated as drug money????? And you have to spend about 20K of it to hire an attorney to get it back??? What a bloody racket!!!! From: someone BOSTON - A Quincy woman who apparently stuffed $46,950 in cash in her bra before trying to board a plane to Texas for plastic surgery has sued a federal agency, demanding the return of her money.
The money was seized from Ileana Valdez, 26, after a security check at a metal detector at Logan International Airport on Feb. 3. Valdez told authorities she was heading to Texas for plastic surgery on her buttocks and breasts.
"I don't know why she was carrying it (the cash) in her bra," said Boston lawyer Tony V. Blaize, who filed the suit Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Boston on behalf of Valdez.
In her suit, Valdez said a male Drug Enforcement Administration agent told her she had a nice body and didn't need surgery — and then seized the cash, claiming it was drug money.
Valdez, a single mother said in her suit that she has no criminal record and earned the money by selling her Dorchester business and two parcels of property in Boston's Jamaica Plain section.
Anthony Pettigrew, a spokesman for the DEA in Boston, said he could not comment on the lawsuit. But he said federal asset forfeiture laws allow agents to seize suspected drug profits.
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Chip Midnight
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06-24-2005 08:56
So much for innocent until proven guilty. Property seizure laws are bullshit. They're just an excuse for federal and state agencies to steal.
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Arcadia Codesmith
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06-24-2005 08:58
Clear violation of due process.
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Nolan Nash
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06-24-2005 09:08
Wait a minute, I thought they overturned this cash seizure bullshit. States like Arkansas and Louisiana were targeting minorities passing through on the interstates, testing their cash for cocaine residue (some 70+% of all US bills in circulation have some coke residue on them) and then confiscating it, generating millions of dollars in revenue. All this even when the drivers had NO drugs on them. Many of them were people moving cross country, and carrying a significant amount of cash for that reason. (Word to the wise - leave it in the bank). I can't find the article right now, but, I know I read that even some republican political figures were outraged over this, and thought that this practice had been abolished. I saw a TV program a couple of years back, in which they showed video (their own cop car dash cam video) of these cops in the counties that are most notorious for this practice, letting whites go, even being all friendly with them, but hassling blacks and hispanics and seizing their cash. Why am I not suprised this woman's last name is Valdez?  Utter BS. Canada's looking better every day.
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Chip Midnight
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06-24-2005 09:15
From: Nolan Nash Wait a minute, I thought they overturned this cash seizure bullshit. "The world changed on 9/11"  From: someone Canada's looking better every day. No shit. I get more and more disgusted by this country every day.
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Colette Meiji
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06-24-2005 09:34
Wow this is so wrong< id love to hear the "offical" explanation.
the war on drugs has pushed the "probable cuase" arguement beyond any sane use.
As to why carry cash in her bra? - what would be safer? her luggage?! Her purse?!
She shouldnt have carried that much cash, very true. But last I heard carrying cash was still legal.
I think its past time a large amount of the tactics that are being used in the war on drugs get put under the microscope of judicial reveiw. Preferably the Supreme Court - though after that whole private property ruling I dont know what they would do =(
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Xtopherxaos Ixtab
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06-24-2005 11:11
The war on drugs is a cash cow...and it allows for standing armies of police in every city to combat a menace that they created by the past few administrations' "wink wink nudge nudge" attitude towards the countries that provide. Sure we send a token force to Columbia...so what? What about the monsterously large Afghan heroin trade? Well...ya see...over 60% of the Afghan economy is tied to heroin production, cut that and they sink back into complete turmoil...it's a shell game.
A ten year old could look at the lessons of prohibition and see the stupidity of such laws. Legalize drugs and regulate them, just like cigs and booze...
I think I just beat the last dried tendon off that dead horse....
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Lit Noir
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06-24-2005 12:24
From: Xtopherxaos Ixtab I think I just beat the last dried tendon off that dead horse.... Doesn't make it any less fun though. |
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Billy Grace
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06-24-2005 12:35
Two words... cashiers check!
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Chris Wilde
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06-24-2005 12:40
This is nothing new. Both sides have a case. But no one is asking WTF was this lady HIDING money in the first place? Her income from the business and property sales should be easily verifiable as should her appointment with a plastic surgeon. In either case her stupidity of hiding money that got her into trouble. Why carry around that large of a sum of money? Bank anyone? What if the plastic surgeon does a bad job? If you paid cash how can you get it back? At least by charging it or other methods you have some protection. And yes, please go to Canada due to outrage over some stupid womans money management. |
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 12:41
From: Billy Grace Two words... cashiers check! My wife and I talked about that. She said the same thing. If she does not have the ability to get a cashers check maybe a Money order. (She may no longer have a Bank account who knows) Money orders cost you about $1 each and with a make of 1K per, so that would be $47. Then is the Doc does not take them she would have to cash them. A Currency Exchange by me will charge you 10% so that would be $4,700. So to do that it would cost her $4,747.00. It is not against the law to have $47 K on you, only $100K or more with out justification.
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Colette Meiji
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06-24-2005 12:42
From: Lupo Clymer My wife and I talked about that. She said the same thing. If she does not have the ability to get a cashers check maybe a Money order. (She may no longer have a Bank account who knows) Money orders cost you about $1 each and with a make of 1K per, so that would be $47. Then is the Doc does not take them she would have to cash them. A Currency Exchange by me will charge you 10% so that would be $4,700. So to do that it would cost her $4,747.00. It is not against the law to have $47 K on you, only $100K or more with out justification. its against the law to have more then 100,000$ on you? wow ... why? It shoudlnt be .. but I believe you. |
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Chris Wilde
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06-24-2005 12:43
From: Lupo Clymer It is not against the law to have $47 K on you But why HIDE it? But then again stupidity isnt against the law either. |
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 12:45
From: Colette Meiji its against the law to have more then 100,000$ on you?
wow ... why?
It shoudlnt be .. but I believe you. I was told once by my Dad’s Causen (he is a Lawyer) that it was. Something about Racketeering and Organized crime. I don’t know the law really but I believe him it is his job and all.
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Colette Meiji
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06-24-2005 12:45
From: Chris Wilde But why HIDE it? But then again stupidity isnt against the law either. UMMMM - you hide it becuase someone will STEAL IT Her concerns were justified .. someone did. |
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 12:46
From: Chris Wilde But why HIDE it? But then again stupidity isnt against the law either. How many Pickpockets do you know that would be able to steel money out of a woman’s bra with out getting stopped?
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Lo Jacobs
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06-24-2005 12:47
From: Chris Wilde But why HIDE it? But then again stupidity isnt against the law either. I don't know. I'd rather no one knew I was carrying $47k, even the airplane folks, who, let's face it, aren't the best paid people. I mean, you do have to be a bit batty to be carrying that much with you *anyway*, but I can't believe that they just *took* it from her.
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Chris Wilde
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06-24-2005 12:47
From: Colette Meiji UMMMM - you hide it becuase someone will STEAL IT
Her concerns were justified .. someone did. LOL! Yeah a bra is real secure. Buy a damn solid suitcase and cuff it to your wrist. And if she was really concerned about someone stealing it: B A N K. |
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Colette Meiji
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06-24-2005 12:50
From: Chris Wilde LOL! Yeah a bra is real secure. Buy a damn solid suitcase and cuff it to your wrist. lol well ive hidden money in my bra before =p Not a a lot but when your on vacation is good to not keep every last bit of your money in the same place. |
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 12:52
The one problem I have with the story. She was going from Boston to Texas for plastic surgery?? Not a put down of Texas or of Boston, but if you were to leave your start would you know go a major players are? New York? LA? Miami? Why the hell Texas?? I can see why the Drug Agent was thinking something was up. I mean really What is right there by Texas? Mexico were most of the import drugs come throw.
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Chris Wilde
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06-24-2005 12:52
This is one of those stories you need more info on. What size bills did she have? Reguardless the facts should easily be investigated and discovered as to the true intent of her travel.
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 12:57
From: Chris Wilde LOL! Yeah a bra is real secure. Buy a damn solid suitcase and cuff it to your wrist. And if she was really concerned about someone stealing it: B A N K. Bra = Secure, no one would let a pickpocket go that just molested a woman (grabbing her breast to get the money). Hidden and privet, no one knows it’s there. solid suitcase and cuff = secure from a pickpocket or grabber. FLASHY, that then puts her at danger in her mind if she feels people are out after her money. Bank = Secure, if you truest them. From: Colette Meiji lol well ive hidden money in my bra before =p Not a a lot but when your on vacation is good to not keep every last bit of your money in the same place. Put your hands up! This is a stick up! Now I am going to check your bra for money. Mmmmmmmm Nice. LOL
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06-24-2005 13:00
From: Lupo Clymer The one problem I have with the story. She was going from Boston to Texas for plastic surgery?? Not a put down of Texas or of Boston, but if you were to leave your start would you know go a major players are? New York? LA? Miami? Why the hell Texas?? I can see why the Drug Agent was thinking something was up. I mean really What is right there by Texas? Mexico were most of the import drugs come throw. Her business. If there's no probable cause to arrest her, there's no probable cause to seize her assets. Or her money, for that matter. |
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Chris Wilde
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06-24-2005 13:03
From: Lupo Clymer Bra = Secure, no one would let a pickpocket go that just molested a woman (grabbing her breast to get the money). Hidden and privet, no one knows it’s there. This woman = stupid. You can juggle things around but the bottom line is there were probably several dozen ways for her to deal with this. Im not sure on domestic flights, do they ask you if you are carrying large sums of money? Just curious. |
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Lupo Clymer
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06-24-2005 13:05
From: Arcadia Codesmith Her business. If there's no probable cause to arrest her, there's no probable cause to seize her assets.
Or her money, for that matter. If you red every thing I have said I have backed her on this I just said it is the one thing that bothers me. Hay it bothers me that people that are vegetarian that don’t feed there kids meat, but hay that is none of my business (I have allot of Vegetarian friends). That does not mean in a disputation of something I can’t lay my concern out there.
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