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01-25-2005 10:02
From: Ferran Brodsky
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I dont hate you as much as everyone else. :)

There's a ringing endorsement if I ever heard one... lol. :eek:

I am quite sure I don't hate you "as much" as everyone else too Taco... hehe. :D
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Chip Midnight
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01-25-2005 10:51
Taco, I was hard on ya in the upskirt museum thread, but I definitely don't hate you. I don't even dislike you :) What a boring world we'd have if people didn't give me stuff to disagree with! hehe.
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Selador Cellardoor
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01-25-2005 11:14
Ferran,

I was close to Bartok and Schoenberg - which is great, because they are two of my favourite composers. :)
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01-26-2005 09:15
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I still refuse to believe this :eek: :eek: :eek:


Heh - I think that a moderate score in the "green" zone infers that one has a humanitarian bent. So, you are probably a genuine example of a compassionate conservative! ;)
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01-26-2005 09:28
From: Paolo Portocarrero
Heh - I think that a moderate score in the "green" zone infers that one has a humanitarian bent. So, you are probably a genuine example of a compassionate conservative! ;)

HaHa Brilliant ! I think I'll run in '08 :D
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Jauani Wu
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01-26-2005 09:50
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.62
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01-26-2005 09:52
adam z, aimee, and alicia scare me!
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Apotheus Silverman
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01-26-2005 10:17
This quiz and its questions are fundamentally flawed and misleading for one simple reason: It assumes your personal opinions are the same as your political views. Well, mine are not.

From: someone
If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.
The quiz starts off immediately with a misleading statement which appeals to people's "warm and fuzzy" side. Yes, I believe that economic globalization should primarily serve humanity, but that does not mean I believe trans-national corporations should be bound to that end.

From: someone
Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races.
This is not even an opinonated statement. There are volumes and volumes of data which show scientific proof of clear differences between races. What it really boils down to is what "qualities" you think of first when you see the statement. For instance, there is scientific proof that Asians generally have a slightly higher IQ than the rest of us. Does that automatically assume that I am authoritarian if I agree on the basis that I am Asian (I am not) and I am aware of this scientific evidence? I think not.

From: someone
Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
This is specifically misleading toward authoritarianism due to its wording. A more proper wording could be something like: There are circumstances that justify breaking international law.

From: someone
There is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment.
Again, misleading. The fact that I may agree that it is a worrisome trend, I do not agree that the companies involved should be regulated for it.

From: someone
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need is a fundamentally good idea.
Yet again misleading toward authoritarianism. Yes I believe it is a good idea, but I certainly do not believe there should be laws or programs enforcing it.

From: someone
It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product.
This is so misleading it almost made me gag when I read it. The real statement here is "The government should increase our taxes to create a program to deliver free purified water to everyone."

From: someone
It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.
Again perhaps it is regrettable, but that does not mean I believe there should be laws enforcing otherwise.

I'll stop there, because that was only halfway down page 2 of 6.

My score after re-reading and attempting to reconstruct the questions in a non-biased way:
Economic Left/Right: 7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Here is a very short political quiz that I believe is more fair for the person taking it
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Lianne Marten
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01-26-2005 10:28
Hey, that quiz labelled me as a Liberal! Wow, I guess everyone was right. Damn me for being a hippy!

The questions in that quiz may have been worded better, but 10 questions is not going to accurately place people. It just focused on positional statements and not on the issues and interests that are behind people's beliefs.

"Cut taxes and government spending by 50% or more" ??? How about "reform government spending to eliminate useless expenditures and adjust the tax rate accordingly"
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01-26-2005 10:30
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62


and damn proud of it! ;)
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Jauani Wu
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01-26-2005 11:13
From: Apotheus Silverman
The quiz starts off immediately with a misleading statement which appeals to people's "warm and fuzzy" side. Yes, I believe that economic globalization should primarily serve humanity, but that does not mean I believe trans-national corporations should be bound to that end.

the two are mutually inclusive. trans-nationals are the overbearing agents of globalisation. if they are not subverted to serve humanity, and left to serve "objective" and "rational" terms set by economics and IRR, globalization will not serve humanity, but terms outside of humanity.
From: someone
This is not even an opinonated statement. There are volumes and volumes of data which show scientific proof of clear differences between races. What it really boils down to is what "qualities" you think of first when you see the statement. For instance, there is scientific proof that Asians generally have a slightly higher IQ than the rest of us. Does that automatically assume that I am authoritarian if I agree on the basis that I am Asian (I am not) and I am aware of this scientific evidence? I think not.
mismeasure of man was written a long time ago. you should go read it. there is no evidence for any "race" being smarter. in fact science has debunked the notion of race. if there is an impression that asians are smarter in the west, it's because the west imports the smart chinese and indian immigrants to be their doctors, scientists, and engineers. it's called the brain drain.
From: someone
Yet again misleading toward authoritarianism. Yes I believe it is a good idea, but I certainly do not believe there should be laws or programs enforcing it.
the question on ability and need gauges the horizontal spectrum of social vs individual. not all questions are meant for authoritarianism vs liberalism.
From: someone
This is so misleading it almost made me gag when I read it. The real statement here is "The government should increase our taxes to create a program to deliver free purified water to everyone."
wrong! it's a question the idea of property and property rights. it's not about government. it's about meaning. do individuals have a right to take a basic and precious necissity like water and appropriate it for profit. is water different from air?
From: someone
Again perhaps it is regrettable, but that does not mean I believe there should be laws enforcing otherwise.
so what is a good way for people to get along and not take advantage of each other in society? it's regretable that some people can and do take advantage of society through manipulating the economy, but the rest of society should let themselves be taken advantage of?

you are misunderstanding a lot of these questions. they are 1> written in historical context. 2> some questions guage individual vs collective and others guage vertical heirarchy vs horizontal heirarchy.

sorry for responding to the whole thing. really i was just ofended by your ignorant comment on the "scientific" proof of racial superiority.
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Lo Jacobs
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01-26-2005 11:28
From: Chip Midnight
Interesting test :) I ended up scoring about the same as the Dalai Lama hehe.


Wow Chip, me too!

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-26-2005 11:36
My political compass voted against me :(
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Kendra Bancroft
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01-26-2005 11:39
From: Lo Jacobs
Wow Chip, me too!

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82


apparently I'm so far left that I make the Dalai Lama look like Donald Trump.
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01-26-2005 11:52
From: Kendra Bancroft
apparently I'm so far left that I make the Dalai Lama look like Donald Trump.


That's what we love about you Kendra :)
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01-26-2005 12:03
In fact -- The Dalai Lama looks like Phil Silvers ;)




Lit Noir
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01-26-2005 12:05
Damn, I knew I was outnumbered in SL (on the econ front anyways), but ... DAMN!
Catherine Omega
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01-26-2005 14:28
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Yup, that sounds about right. Some of those questions were pretty badly worded, though.
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01-26-2005 15:15
From: Catherine Omega
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Yup, that sounds about right. Some of those questions were pretty badly worded, though.


Finally! Someone as left as I am. Welcome to the club, Cat :)

Economic Left/Right: -9.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15
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01-26-2005 18:44
From: Jauani Wu
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You're scared of ME? :O
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01-26-2005 18:45
From: Catherine Omega
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Yup, that sounds about right. Some of those questions were pretty badly worded, though.


It DOES sound about right for you cat :D

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04-09-2005 00:08
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15

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04-09-2005 00:32
I scored 0.35,0.28 ............ how middle of the road can ya get :p
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04-09-2005 12:41
Whoops! I linked this same compass to SuezanneC's thread, not seeing it was already posted. Econ scale -8.38; Libertarian scale, -7.49.

Hmm. Curious that they're "negative" numbers. Wonder if the creaters of the test meant something there...? Even if they meant it in some sort of compensatory way...
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04-09-2005 15:44
From: Meilian Shang
Whoops! I linked this same compass to SuezanneC's thread, not seeing it was already posted. Econ scale -8.38; Libertarian scale, -7.49.

Hmm. Curious that they're "negative" numbers. Wonder if the creaters of the test meant something there...? Even if they meant it in some sort of compensatory way...


It's just a simple mathematical axis used to differentiate the different "ideologies." They could have easily had the center at 10,10, with X and Y going from 0-20, but that might have confused some people.
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