Experimenting with the SL community - should this be allowed?
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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08-03-2005 15:21
From: Margaret Mfume ...and finding yourself in the middle of a Chuck E. Cheese. Wow. Just wow. You are so above us! I mean it's so mature of you to deride other adults by insinuating that they behave like children! No wonder you see comments about not being able to leave parenting in RL when you make such skewed, judgemental analogies. That's really what you take away from these forums? Perhaps it's because you have decided to only focus on what you perceive to be the negative aspects of the forums? Myself, I participate in the fun threads too. I don't dwell on the negative. Yin and yang, you know?
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-03-2005 15:27
From: Jauani Wu no need to apologize ellie. i probably have no idea what is going on. Yet, methinks you are shrewd enough to know exactly what is going on, mon Jujubee.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-03-2005 15:47
From: Margaret Mfume Sorry for the delayed response to your post, Cris. I have a lot of thoughts requiring a more in depth response than time allows at the moment, but I'd like to comment on one aspect since the thread has been bumped back up. I often see posts which explain that these forums are like others and in fact not as bad as some in other games. The example you cited here is WOW, which coincidently a friend referred to playing WOW with a 12 year old in a conversation last. So often posters comparing their experiences in other games are told something along the line of "The door to TSO is down the hall and on the left." SL is a different platform, why doesn't that hope or expectation for a different level of behavior exist for forum participation exist as well? As to your bar scenario, I don't go to an entertainment venue be it a bar or SL looking for someone to spend my life with (or even the night with). I seem to be able to enjoy a conversation or discussion with new people pretty much every where I go. Except here. I think it would be more apt to describe the bar experience as going to what you heard was the latest cutting edge entertainment venue, called Teh Geek Chic, and finding yourself in the middle of a Chuck E. Cheese. Wow, you have a rather bleak view of these forums, and many who participate in it. The reason I mentioned WoW is not as an equal comparison, but as an example of a forum much nastier. There has fairly insipid and nasty forums too, as did TSO after awhile. Overall, I think the SL forums are a dream compared to many I have seen. Are there immature people? Absolutely - there are in any environment. I was saying that forums by their very nature are going to contain the exact kind of stuff you do see in these forums, because humans are humans. It is about expectations I suppose, but SL is way too diverse to ever expect a sort of polite, Disney-fied forums. LL has tried at times to take them in that direction, and it has never ever worked. Many people (even those who openly scorn it) feed on the drama and conflict you find in forums, these included. I admit, I certainly enjoy it. I suppose some people also feed on getting to feel superior to others and tell them how to behave and how childish they are. The great thing about these forums is we have the freedom to be both - childish and holier than thou. God knows you see it often enough. If these forums represent Chuck E. Cheese, then that explains my enjoyment of them - I think I could eat pizza and play video games every day of my life and be happy. To each, their own.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-03-2005 16:37
From: Cristiano Midnight If these forums represent Chuck E. Cheese, then that explains my enjoyment of them - I think I could eat pizza and play video games every day of my life and be happy. To each, their own. Not Chuck E. Cheese pizza, you couldn't. You would be dead inside a month.
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Siggy Romulus
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08-03-2005 17:40
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Margaret Mfume
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08-03-2005 18:20
From: Cristiano Midnight Wow, you have a rather bleak view of these forums, and many who participate in it. No, not many but a few can be enough to disrupt others ability to utilize these forums as a form of communication in a way the game does not allow. Do I want a Disney version of the forums? Hell, no. An unwillingness to allow others to make sl what they want of it is exactly what I find immature acknowledging that this is not a trait that everyone grows out of. Allow me to give common occurences which exemplify this. In a discussion of the effects on commerce, inevitably someone who disagrees with SL decision to allow RL profits to be made will come in and state that anyone who invests a virtual world is a fool. It's a game! The breach of security recently experienced is a good example of a discussion in which a statement dismissing people's concerns is out of place. There are many examples. Is it really necessary to post one's personal satisfaction that land dealers may suffer due to one change or the other in LL's policy? Don't they have a right to discuss policies without a someone coming in expressing your pain is my pleasure sentiment? You want to talk about acting superior? Go read the Patrick Playfair exit thread. Talk about an inability to live and let live. I hope you don't find your self in a position to do nothing but play video games and eat pizza all day long, Cris. I would miss reading your posts.
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Nolan Nash
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08-03-2005 18:48
From: Margaret Mfume No, not many but a few can be enough to disrupt others ability to utilize these forums as a form of communication in a way the game does not allow. Do I want a Disney version of the forums? Hell, no. An unwillingness to allow others to make sl what they want of it is exactly what I find immature acknowledging that this is not a trait that everyone grows out of. Allow me to give common occurences which exemplify this. In a discussion of the effects on commerce, inevitably someone who disagrees with SL decision to allow RL profits to be made will come in and state that anyone who invests a virtual world is a fool. It's a game! The breach of security recently experienced is a good example of a discussion in which a statement dismissing people's concerns is out of place. There are many examples. Is it really necessary to post one's personal satisfaction that land dealers may suffer due to one change or the other in LL's policy? Don't they have a right to discuss policies without a someone coming in expressing your pain is my pleasure sentiment? You want to talk about acting superior? Go read the Patrick Playfair exit thread. Talk about an inability to live and let live. I hope you don't find your self in a position to do nothing but play video games and eat pizza all day long, Cris. I would miss reading your posts. You give power to what the naysayers do when you dwell on what they say. If some dummy says "you're a fool for <x>"; why empower them by worrying about and rehashing what they think? You can't police it. It is not against the ToS to tell someone they are foolish. Presumptuous? Yes. Just as expecting your indignance at what some dummy says to change them is.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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08-03-2005 21:25
From: Ingrid Ingersoll Hi I'm just chimming in here to toe the party line and bump this thread about hamsters. Please, no more fighting in the forums. The hamster begs you. ~Ulrika~
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