Democrats push Bible classes in schools

yeah, go back to the start of the thread to see my post

More like torturing an innocent man just to prove a point to Satan. That god sure is loving!

I always wondered why God had to ask Satan where he had come from. If he was all knowing, then he knew where Satan had come from. If he wasn't all knowing, then he is just believing Job loves him so much that when he sends Satan as a torturer, Job will still love him. In the end, it gives me a picture of God that seems rather disturbing. If someone I loved sent a person to torture me to see if I still loved them afterwards, I would not be too fond of that person anymore.

Stocholm syndrome maybe?

Stockholm syndrome maybe?

On the original subject. I really don't think there is a problem with having a religion class to give people an idea of how different cultures approach the spiritual. If it is done, it should teach all religions. The children could learn about the Christian ideas, but then they should also learn about the beliefs of others. The world is becoming a global community, and it would help if our children understood more than just the religion they grew up with.

I think the bible or any other holy scripture as literature as Zuzu described may be a little too far for public schools. When you teach scriptures of any type as literature; you begin to step on other people's religious beliefs by suggesting that their beliefs are nothing more than a set of myths like all other myths. This will have obvious problems with parents who want their child to assume that the religion they taught them is greater than all other religions. It is a more appropriate class for college level students that are now building their own seperate lifes apart from their parents.

I'm not sure I understand you; what is funny about that? Or was this just your way of dodging yet again when you have no more cogent reposnse?

Similar to how I view it, but not quite. The explanation I've heard to why this situation is not abuse, is that God gave Job more than he had before. I just see that explanation like the battered wife that gets a new car, flowers, diamonds, and other things to make up for the husband she still loves despite his abuse. In that way I see the connection.

The difference I see is that God is not the actual torturer. In true Stockholm Syndrome, I would think you would form your bond with Satan who has demonstrated his power of you, and rebel against God. It is hard to say though, because Job does realize that God is the ultimate power in the situation that is allowing for all this to happen, so perhaps it really is a Stockholm syndrome where the abuse allowed by God does not alienate Job in the end, but instead causes him to try to find a way of excusing the one he loves.

I think your understanding of the word "bet" is off base. I find the definition to be ...

bet ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bt)
n.
An agreement usually between two parties that the one who has made an incorrect prediction about an uncertain outcome will forfeit something stipulated to the other; a wager.


What exactly did God offer Satan should God lose the "bet"?

What did Satan offer God should he lose?

Let the Christian bible into schools just by itself? In an area where Christianity is already deeply culturally entrenched?


In business, there is a thing called 'mindshare'.

If everyone knows only of your product, talks only of your product, so on and so forth... you ARE the product.



I wonder how many people are aware of non-western literature at all, even the most basic, time-honoured works. Or have even heard of, say, the Mahabharata in that area.

While happily they smile in agreement as they focus on their own belief structure and its grandeur.

This reeks of political pandering.

Yep, it most definitely does. My guess is that they're attempting to appease the fundies in hopes they'll stop pushing for outright proselytizing in public schools.

Okay, if it is not a bet, it is still a sick little experiment the two were doing to "test" this man. I don't care if God is the one that actually did the bad things. God is the one that put them in motion. Satan who was put into motion by God with God's full consent.

If an army captain tells his men that all the women in an enemy city are in their hands, after they ask him if it is alright to rape them; I would fault that captain for what happened. I don't care if he raped women himself or not. I therefore fault God for telling Satan to do what he wanted after Satan came to GOD to find out if it was alright to do bad things to Job.

Democrats on the House Education Committe put this through in Alabama by a 7-5 vote:

http://www.al.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/113827078528880.xml?birminghamnews?nleg&coll=2

Hmmmm