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Joy Honey
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04-06-2006 18:21
From: Jonas Pierterson
Neither is she at this point:) And if she can't take her own logic and stick with him through the comment the way he did through hers... well then, if she cheats, shes the one entirely at fault.


He didn't stick with her through her comment though. Seems like he was plotting revenge against her by taking her shopping and then [sarcasm]he got her back but good [/sarcasm]. He did have all night to think about it. She just didn't feel like having sex. Big freaking difference there. And to top it all off, she's the bitch in this scenario? Nice guy....
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Jonas Pierterson
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04-06-2006 18:46
From a guys way of thnking, what he did was equal. To attempt to call it sexist just because of a womans point of view is sexist in itself.
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Joy Honey
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04-06-2006 18:51
From: Jonas Pierterson
From a guys way of thnking, what he did was equal. To attempt to call it sexist just because of a womans point of view is sexist in itself.



Sooo from a guy's way of thinking, sitting up and plotting revenge for getting no sex is equal? Geesh
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Jonas Pierterson
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04-06-2006 19:11
changing our mind at the last minute is fair for the gander as well as the goose:)

Obviously if a woman isnt meeting our emotional needs we dont need to give them gifts
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Allana Dion
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04-06-2006 19:42
Hmmm for some reason my husband thought that was awfully.


jk... I laughed too. :D
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04-06-2006 19:55
From: Dianne Mechanique

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She was straightforward, honest and loving towards him
From: Chance Abattoir
Besides the part where the "the passion heats up" and then she rejects him.


There are lots of times when I haven't been in the mood... but I wouldn't ever wait until AFTER I've got him sweating to tell him that. There are always instances when something stops you and breaks your mood sure but a woman who does that intentionally is just playing manipulative games. This story is just a joke and no actual people were involved so without attributing any emotional crisis to the situation, i'd say she had it coming.

*ducks and hides from the backlash* ;)
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04-07-2006 00:43
From: Jonas Pierterson
Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says "I don't feel like it, I just want you to hold me."


It doesn't say whose passion. It could be his passion. And it doesn't say physical passion. We have no reason from that comment alone to assume she was teasing him. Prior to this they've merely gotten in bed. She could've been looking cute or maybe women in prone positions are enough to get dude going.

If she says she doesn't feel like it and she just wants him to hold her this is what she means:

1. quit poking me with that thing and kiss my neck a little... then maybe in a bit. :-) OR

2. tell me how special I am to you and make me feel loved and then maybe, OR

3. it's been a rough day or i'm on my period or whatever other reason and I don't feel like sex.

So, to be fair to Jonas, it is true that women (like men) can mean lots of different things by a comment that may, at first, appear to be a shut down. It isn't necessarily, though.

I think it is true that we live in an age where women try to get what they want indirectly, still. they are still taught that it is better to make men feel like the men are in control and manipulate men to do what they want. I suck at that, so I never do. Plus, then one is always having to simper and rely on someone else's good graces.
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04-07-2006 01:22
From: Persephone Phoenix
It doesn't say whose passion. It could be his passion. And it doesn't say physical passion. We have no reason from that comment alone to assume she was teasing him.


Considering the context of it being a joke with a punchline, it only makes sense if it is mutual passion that was heating up. Otherwise the joke doesn't make sense and the guy is just an ass. Considering that it is a joke, it is obviously supposed to be understood only one way and not interpreted a thousand possible ways under the sun.

Sheesh. Women.
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Allana Dion
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04-07-2006 01:42
From: Persephone Phoenix
If she says she doesn't feel like it and she just wants him to hold her this is what she means:

1. quit poking me with that thing and kiss my neck a little... then maybe in a bit. :-) OR

2. tell me how special I am to you and make me feel loved and then maybe, OR

3. it's been a rough day or i'm on my period or whatever other reason and I don't feel like sex.

So, to be fair to Jonas, it is true that women (like men) can mean lots of different things by a comment that may, at first, appear to be a shut down. It isn't necessarily, though.



Yep this is also true, ammending my previous statement.... We've all innadvertantly made them sweat and then made them feel shut down.... It honestly isn't intentional guys. :)

From: Chance Abattoir
Sheesh. Women.


Yea we're a pain the ass aren't we...lol
Etoile Brissot
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04-23-2006 18:02
What strikes me about this joke is the message it portrays; that when a woman changes her mind about having sex with her partner, that she is doing this to punish him. His plotting to reciprocate the punishment appears to attempt to justify the pay back - as does the "bitch" part at the end.
There are many reasons why women (and men) change their minds during sex. It surprises me that often, the general perception is that it happens as a means to punish ones partner. Perhaps we should have a poll. Something like "What circumstances or reasons have you decided to stop having sex, whilst having sex". As would another poll, such as "Why do YOU feel that your partner decides to stop having sex with you, after you've started" The results could be quite interesting!
Allana Dion
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04-23-2006 19:05
From: Etoile Brissot
"Why do YOU feel that your partner decides to stop having sex with you, after you've started" The results could be quite interesting!


I have a feeling that most women haven't really experienced that, certainly not as often as men. Or am I wrong?
Victoria Rothschild
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04-24-2006 00:04
Okay, first things first...

It was a joke, people. Get over it! The intense philosophical debate is entirely uncalled for... just laugh, or don't.


Now that that's out of the way, I feel an odd need to respond to some things that have been said.

We women are not idiots. That being said, it truly annoys me when a woman thinks she can "just cuddle" and not arouse a man's passion. Then, when she tries to play innocent and put the blame on the guy because he "doesn't understand her emotional needs", I just wanna slap the bitch until her whole family feels it... then take her man and give him the loving he needs!

As for accepting gifts, let's break it down a bit.

Girlfriend, if you give sex with the expectation of receiving gifts, that is called prostitution... plain old whoring. Now, I am not a whore (at least, not in rl ~giggle~) but, if a lover gives me a gift, I'd be a damn fool to turn it down. And, my mama didn't raise any foolish young'ns.

Basically, it all boils down to intent... and only you and your conscience know your intent. Are you a whore... or a grateful lover.

Just my L$6... ~grin~
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04-24-2006 02:02
From: Jonas Pierterson
Actually, its also a good description of how women don't understand men, if you simply mirror the comments. Men don't always think fully with their hearts and emotions, but with their heads.

Men don't understand women, alot of the time. But its a two way street and many women don't understand men.

edit: women can use toys but men can use a hands on approach as well. Just because he isn't gatting any doesn't mean she'd be the only one getting off ;)


Actually, to me the joke was a good example of misogyny.
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04-24-2006 02:05
From: Victoria Rothschild


Girlfriend, if you give sex with the expectation of receiving gifts, that is called prostitution... plain old whoring. Now, I am not a whore (at least, not in rl ~giggle~) but, if a lover gives me a gift, I'd be a damn fool to turn it down. And, my mama didn't raise any foolish young'ns.

Basically, it all boils down to intent... and only you and your conscience know your intent. Are you a whore... or a grateful lover.

Just my L$6... ~grin~


Well ummm I did once offer my husband a certain sexual act to motivate him to go finish fixing my car. Probably shouldn't overanalyze it. ;)
Victoria Rothschild
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04-24-2006 14:18
From: Allana Dion
Well ummm I did once offer my husband a certain sexual act to motivate him to go finish fixing my car. Probably shouldn't overanalyze it. ;)


Okay, question #1... did it work?:)

Question #2... if so, were you properly grateful for the repairs.;)
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04-24-2006 15:02
From: Selador Cellardoor
Actually, to me the joke was a good example of misogyny.


But I find that Misogyny is so much more scrummy than your average Ragworm :-D
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04-24-2006 16:55
From: Victoria Rothschild
Okay, question #1... did it work?:)

Question #2... if so, were you properly grateful for the repairs.;)


#1 - Doesn't it always? *G*

#2 - yes always ;)
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04-26-2006 05:11
From: Joy Honey
That's what batteries are for :p


Or you could always just put away the tools and do it by hand...

Lewis
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04-26-2006 05:44
From: Lewis Nerd
Or you could always just put away the tools and do it by hand...

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Briana Dawson
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04-26-2006 05:46
From: Jonas Pierterson
Now before I get into this.. its a joke, seriously, but a good one.

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I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, "No honey, I don't feel like it."

Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled "WHAT?"

I then said "honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while. You're just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman." And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, "Why can't you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?"

Apparently I'm not having sex tonight either....but at least that bitch knows I'm smarter than her.


You are a monster. What is she doing WASTING her time with you anyways?

There is more to passion than just rolling over and having sex.. Unfortunately you are too immature to realize that.

Wish I could email this post to your girlfriend. Im sure she would appreciate you telling the world she is a bitch.

Briana Dawson
Jonas Pierterson
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04-26-2006 05:46
Jesus would take a hands on approach.
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