Why do Bush Supporters & Other conservatives have a Stronger Bias Towards Blacks?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/29/AR2006012900642_pf.html

why?

Hard to say how valid the study is, but if it's true I'd say it might have something to do with some people thinking in a more "us versus them" way and as a result being more prone to racism, nationalism, xenophobia, and the like. I don't think it's a fair generalization though. I'm sure there's a correlary for hardcore partisans on the other side too. It might be hardwired from our tribal pasts.

Why would you believe anything published by the washington post ? why?

Ok I digress, why would you believe anything published by the Washington Post TODAY?

Ok have fun.

I voted for Bush.. My first Stepdad(10 years) is Black.. My stepbrothers are a combo (African/Scottish/Irish/and a ton of ancestors we can't track). And my aunt (who is 9 years older and was raised as my sister) was married to my uncle who was black (he died in 198 and had my cousin who is a combo (African/Cherokee/Italian). And that is only one side of the multi-cultural aspect of my family.

I've been told my life is an exception to the rule though. But even still I can only speak from my own experiences. So personally I would argue that the article is just picking on conservatives, but I'd be shot down with better words I'm sure. hehe

For what it is worth... I'm a Libertarian, not a Republican. But that is a whole other story!

LOL

Why when the DNC laid off workers did they only layoff the black ones?


I'm black and I don't even like black people

I only scanned the article but this stuck out...

"The analysis found that substantial majorities of Americans, liberals and conservatives, found it more difficult to associate black faces with positive concepts than white faces -- evidence of implicit bias. But districts that registered higher levels of bias systematically produced more votes for Bush."

What I did not see (and since I didn't read thoroughly, I'm just leaping to bullshit conjecture) is whether all participants were white. Taking the first statement and extrapolating, most people have bias which would be evident in this study. So, we know that districts that produced more votes for Bush would tend toward a certain slice of the voter pool. These people, given the first statement, have bias and given what we know of Bush voters, that bias would include a bias against African Americans.

And, as Ebony pointed out, given the cultures, the fact that the study participants find it more difficult to associate black faces with positive concepts does not preclude African Americans as having been in the study.

So I guess what I'm saying is that we learned that lots of white people have bias against African Americans?

Provided the studies are valid and the bias persists, the first black president will be Republican.

Because it reveals the crimes of Boy George Bush.

I've requested a copy of the source paper as science reporting is usually poor to lousy. Knowing the venue in which this study was presented, though, I expect that the confounding factors that Gabe speculates upon have already been well addressed as you don't present in front of that crowd without first lining up all the ducks.

I'll let you know if I'm mistaken.

A likely first woman president is also likely to be the first black president.

Condi 2008!

"Why would you trust that drunken bum on the street?" "Because he said (something I already wanted to believe is true)".

Not valid logic.

Jes' sayin'.

If she was as good at foreign policy as her resume indicates, she'd have quit by now to disassociate herself from the worst foreign policy we have seen yet. Since she hasn't quit, it's obvious she has no intentions of ever running for the office. She's also gone so far as to say she isn't going to run.

As an aside, I am interested in more serious candidate proposals.

/me points to demographics here -> http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=943
/me also points here -> http://plsc.uark.edu/arkpoll/fall99/party/page4.htm

not apparent in either demographic, but what I was looking for was an indication, based on my personal experience, that conservatives are usually not living in close proximity (neighbors) to non-white groups due to either being out-on-the-farm or living in gated communities.. segregation leads, again in my experience, to people being cautious / afraid / bigitrous / agresssive toward those groups they do not have contact with.


nonetheless demographics are interesting

"A person hasn't conformed to my personal opinion of what they should do, therefor she is not objectivly good at something, therefor I can tell she wont do a thing" is not logical logic, to be redundant in my word usage.

Conservatives are not all rural, and no more high-class and exclusionary than liberals, believe it or not.

//Conservative and totaly average, in a large town/small city of 25,000, living in an apartment building with a black family across the hall and a pair of chinese college students to the right of him

Easy there fella...*usually* was the operative word.. I don't think everyone is like this, but for my experience most are.

"no more high-class .. believe it or not" - please, base your comments on facts or state if it is your personal feelings. It seems the facts point to the contrary via the demographics?

from your confession of being "conservative and totaly average.." after my pointing to proximity as a cause for bias, I do assume that you are not meaning to imply "I live with african americans, but still have bias" but rather "I live in a multi ethnic area and of course have NO bias".

Nonetheless, if it isn't proximity then what is it?

/me gets on my sled to fully enjoy the slippery slope that is this thread

That doesn't really make sense. Most larger groups of minorities are in major cities. Almost every major city in the US is liberal, yet almsot all major cities in the US with the except of a few areas in each citiy are grossly segregated. Most minorities like to self segregate in efforts to maintain some sense of community.

Your arguement doesn't wash.


Condi is too smart to be President.

First Black President=Dead President and I don't mean Dead Prez

First of all, I question the second set of statistics you linked. They are based off a 1996 poll, which makes them ten years out of date. But, moreover, I have questions about the validity of the poll. It was based on a little more than 800 samplings, which, when compared to a country of nearly ~300mill, is somewhat problematic. It's very easy to make a poll show anything, particularly if you are trying to slant it in a direction, and the page you linked repeatedly suggests that it's results are "for the south... but indicative of the nation at large", or words to that effect... Which I find both curious and worriesom, because the results of the poll that I looked up on line did on at first glance appear to be regionaly focused.

However, your first link seems to support my hypothesis: (quoting)

On the other hand, Enterprisers and Liberals * whose political opinions mix no better than oil and water * have a surprising amount of common ground both economically and educationally. These groups are the wealthiest and best educated in the typology. Roughly four-in-ten Enterprisers and Liberals (41% each) have annual household incomes of at least $75,000; only the Upbeats (39%) have about as many people in that income category.

That statement puzzled me at first, until I realized that that poll was using "enterprisers" as a republican/conservative faction, for some reason.

Other factors seem to bear a similar breakdown on that page. However, I will also say I don't give that set of data a whole lot more credence than the other... It does, however, use a slightly larger sampling of the population.

My statements come from my personal experience, granted... But that's just me. I tend to distrust statistics in favor of personal experience, when the two seem to conflict, because to me "statistic" means about the same thing as "fiction". What's the old saying? Something like, "There are three types of lies... lies, damned lies, and statistics"? Something to that effect.

As for why I mentioned my living conditions... Just pointing out a personal example of a republican and conservative not living in a rural environment or a closed community. As far as bias... I infinitely prefer the (Very polite, pleasant) black people I have now as neighbors to the (drunken, drug using, playing music at all hours of the night and getting into fights with each other in the hallway) white neighbors I had last year, so...

And this study would explain Robert Byrd how?

Gah, I simply despise popular press science jounalism as they have all the precision of a jackhammer. Indeed, Dr. Nosek had to post a "hold on a second" FAQ in response to the Washington Post article.

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Skinnies hate Fatties and vice versa
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Teen-agers hate Adults and vice versa
Democrats hate Republicans and vice versa
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Children hate Parents and vice versa
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Dogs hate Cats and vice versa

Reality is that ignorant people will always seek and find differences as an excuse to hate and fight each other.

Reality is that there is more bad people than good and that will never change.

Smart people realize that they simply cannot throw others into groups and hate them equally.

Smart people pick and choose individuals to love and individuals to hate, not groups.

People are constantly bombarded by the media, politicians and those seeking power urging them to "belong" to a group.

Grouping is divisive and bad. It promotes an "us against them" mentality! And therefore, conflict.

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