Meta Discussion: A serious question for the Democrats.

Really? I mean... really?

Well there's no point in talking to you at all is there.

OMG!!

*dull thump as Aurael's limp body hits the floor*
*agonized moan*

Ulrika and I agree on something!!!

Quick! Look out the window!! Is the second coming happening?

www.weather.com says it's still not freezing down there...

I guess this is just a momentary fluke.

(Okay, I give Ulrika a hard time. The truth is, we both agree on more than we disagree about when it comes down to it... we just don't agree on how to get there. )

And here (finally!) is the "reveal" that proves all the criticism you were getting was right and that you *did* have the agenda everyone was trying to paste you with.

The questions were entirely idiotic and unreal and entirely partisan on your part. What a collosal waste of time for us all.

If you really are interested in this stuff you should go take some political science courses and perhaps learn something about logic and the correct phrasing of "ethical dillema" questions. They used to teach that in grade 12 when I went to school.

So, basically what you are saying is "Democrats are hateful" and "the ends justify the means."

I do agree that personal attacks and insults are not effective at all, especially if you want to appear credible. You did kind of appear to encourage this in the original thread, though. Some of your comments were rather inflammatory toward the people who did not want to pick either "choice."

The Democrats (and even those people not affiliated with either party) are not motivated by hatred. I would like for our President to not lie to us about something as important as a war and the reasons for getting into one. I could care less if he was getting bj's on the side and lying about that, that's not really a National Security issue, is it?

I personally detest GWB. I do not agree with his policies, his seemingly authoritarian stance on EVERYTHING (you're either with us or against us, who really needs checks and balances or separation of church and state?). I see him on TV or hear him on the radio and I feel the urge to rip all my skin off... I'm sure there are people who felt that way about Clinton when he was President. That's not to say I don't want peace in the Middle East, or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

Now I've forgotten what else I was gonna say... darn kids

Yup, loaded question describes your post Billy. I took option 3 ... vote for neither.

On a side note.. Life would be so much easier if everything were black and white, yes and no, right and wrong. I think the zealots on both ends of issues drown out the rest of us who are sad, puzzled, and searching for some middle ground that makes sense.

Bravo.



Well....it could be. This kind of torture, if applied properly, can force the victim to reveal the most delicate of State secrets.

Good point - so if the Pres gets a bj on the side, the Secret Service needs to screen the person providing the bj's before he/she gets access

For sure. It should be an official Cabinet position approved by the Senate.

Blah blah blah... grow up Dianne.

Actually that is not what I am saying at all. I am saying that the leaders of the Democratic Party will do everything in their power to bring down President Bush and are hoping beyond hope that Iraq blows up in his face. This rhetoric will only continue to their demise but their hate for President Bush is more important than just about everything else.

There are lot’s of good decent people who are Democrats but I think the party has gone astray on this issue in the name of hating President Bush.


Nothing I did or said was a “personal attack” towards anyone. It never ceases to surprise me how people would rather toss around such things when in the end it potentially negates any value they may bring to a meaningful conversation.

I agree... Us moderates need to stick together!

LOL

lol. You walk an uncomfortable line of tactful beneficence. I would've gone with an unflinchingly callous and disgusted soulcrushing exercise fueled by a learned and thinly veiled bigotry for passive-aggressives. Must be the age difference

I think I need to Thesaurize this, but it seems like you already did!

I didn't use any unusual words.

We will just have to agree to disagree here. I know that extremists are hoping for a total meltdown, but many of the people who vote Democrat don't. It's just too bad that the "liberal media" seems to only show both parties as total caricatures.



I never said you did make any personal attacks. I said you kind of encouraged them by, at least in appearance, taunting some of the people responding to the thread.



Odd, Bush said that Congress had the same intelligence information the White House did - that turned out to be a lie. How many other lies did he tell?



It isn't really. I just put it in there because I was waiting for someone to come along and say "well Clinton lied about bj's in the oval office." It's there as a comparison of lies . Clinton lied about getting a bj, Bush (possibly) lied to get us into a war - big difference.




I'm sorry, but I have trouble with that statement. You are basing that on what we know now. I do believe if Clinton was President when 9/11 happened, the Republicans would have been howling for his head on a platter.

Basically what I am saying is if the shoe was on the other foot (if a Democrat was President), I believe that the Republicans would be reacting to that question the way many people did. They'd rather chew off their own arm than have to make either choice.

Can I ask a serious question to Republicans?

Would you rather denounce your God and your country and be fucked in the ass by dogs?

Or would you rather denouce your God and your country and be fucked in the ass by wolves?

This is a serious question.

Helpful Hint: Adult wolves don't bark.

Yeah they do. It's a warning signal to the rest of the pack that something is coming into their territory.

They don't bark as a threat like dogs, they only growl for that.

Cthulhu for president

Why isn't there a smiley with a tentacled mouth?????

If you're a moderate, then I must be liberal.

Sorry to inform you, Billy ... you score much farther "right" than "moderate".

If Billy's a moderate, I'm a moderate too! Finally, I'm just average folk.

EDIT: If Billy and I were moderate, could you imagine what the extremists would be like?

~Ulrika~

WHOOT!!! Come join Ulrika and Billy in forming the new political party...

"The Moderates"

Party slogan... "We don't agree on anything but taken as a whole, we are Moderates!!!"

Starting this Fall on NBC, produced by Larry David.

I missed the original thread and that's a shame. I would've had so much fun with it. I would've posted a third and/or fourth scenario despite being told "You can't do that!" It would've been just as plausable as the inane rhetoric that was thrown out there.


#4
The war in Iraq never really ends and the troops end up remaining there, much to the insurgents' chagrine. President Bush isn't heralded for much at all and fades into obscurity(President who?) back to his home in Crawford Texas where he goes on a drinking binge and is caught in bed with two Russian hookers. Governer Schwartzengger runs for president after the consitution is amended and suffers a crushing defeat(and loss of sanity) after the citizens of the US see the box office flop Jingle all the Way II. Hillary Clinton is elected the first woman president of the US, but in her attempt to censor everything ends up being driven out of office by a coup led by Dennis Leary and George Carlin. Due to the utter incompetance of presidents of the past decade, the electoral college is disbanded and the Country goes to the Presidental Lottery System, where a new president is selected each year by random SSN#, so it can be anyone. An alternate fuel source is found that is both cheap, easy to get, and renweable. Signifigance in the Middle East finally vanishes and it implodes into civil war until Pakistan turns the entire place into a radioactive glass bowl. President John Travolta is selected by lottery and ends up cleaning the country and restoring the prestiege. Saturday Night Fever is selected as the "True American Movie". President Travolta remains in office for life and brings about world peace.


See, just as plausable as the others.