WTF is wrong with Florida 3-21-06 !!!!!

$50L to the first peep to post a pic of her without the pancake. Inquiring medicated and twisted minds want to know.

1. Teenager
2. No
3. No
4. No-we were both underage. Now if she's still having sex with 8 year olds...

So...are you going to answer the questions I posted earlier or just gonna conveniently ignore them?

-Kiamat Dusk

Hey Leck

sally can't read this, don't worry, just between you and me...

at 14, would you have tagged that if the opportunity arose?

would you have fantasized about it if not?

damn I still remember Mrs. *** *******. I ussually am not into huge racks, but man, she made it hard to go up to the chalkboard. And she was like a farm girl too, all innocent acting. I better stop.

I'm pretty sure she won't hold it against me, at 14 the answer is YES
.. and at 15... and at 16...

He went with her in 2 counties. At 23, I don't think her problem was bi-polar, I think it was immaturity. I think she is prolly one of those cases that make an average adult 18. I would bet she had little concept to how wrong her behavior was. He saw a hot blond and tagged it.

And in retrospect I wasn't ready at 14, but I imagine there are peoplke in their 20s who are not ready when they get some. I think 14+ is a real grey area in terms of calling something child molestation or a pedophile

she was 9 years older than him. My last long term gf was 14 yrs older than me. I really wouldn't feel comfortable incarcerating her for 30 years or putting a bullet in her head for what seems to me to be totall stupidity more than anything else.



Biological impulses and testosterone. Not to mention natures cheap trick of having a guys sexual peak be 17 and a girls be 36...

I assume you mean those questions.

Now, since I answered yours, go back to the death penalty thread and answer the questions in my 2 threads with the badly mangled Iraqi children and tell me how you think we should handle people who continually disfigure, maim, and kill children like that.

and how come no one has tried to catch me in some hypocrisy by asking what if she was an ugly 23 year old, would my opinion change??

























answer is of course not. she just happens to be on the hot side (actually shes not my type at all, and with as much make up as she uses, kinda gross. She thinks she is hotter than others do. that being said, she certainly fits the hot mold, and looks and applies make up like a teenager as well. i think this was a result of her stunted growth, not a sexual crime at all)

I didn't respond to that because it was a BS tactic that had no bearing on the topic. What's the context? Were they collateral damage? That's a travesty, yes. But not a crime. Were they targetted by one of these "freedom fighters" who walks into a group of kids waiting for candy and blows himself up? Well, then I think we should kick some ass and win the war.

And you assumed incorrectly. The questions to which I was referring are these:



-Kiamat Dusk

If I was 14 & had a teacher like that? Yeeeeaaaa!! I'd be smiling so wide I'd knock down down walls!! All I had were old Nuns

Yes it is a crime when we had no business there and lied about our illegal occupation

it is a war crime



there is no "war" this is a conflict at best. small consolation to the kids who lost both arms and entire families as well.



seeing as I had yet to post in this topic when you posted your question I had no idea they were directed at me

also, I didn't respond to that because it was a BS tactic that had no bearing on the topic.

Also worth noting about your unanswered questions, is a Recent Poll I posted asking what the worst thing that could happen to a person would be. Here are the results atm

Multiple Amputations and Torture are tied at 25.93%
Entire family killed is 22.22%
Molestation as a child is 14.81%

That means that 74.08% of your peers think that actions you condone and have taken part in (Killing entire families, torture, and providing multiple amputations to children) are worse than being molested.

You want a bullet in the head of molesters, but you want the unmitigated cruelty that you and your "mission" have cursed the world with to be commended and given a medal

think about it, 74% of the worst things that could happen to a person the US has done and you have been a part and party of

ok goddammit
this is not a thread about Iraq/abortion/bi vs. homo vs. hetero or such
take your drivel elsewhere unless you have a pic of the tramp without the aunt jemima plaster.

can't you go look at pr0n like any other normal guy?

remember, I campaigned for a politics sub forum in off topic.

and your racist remarks about her plaster will not be tolerated here

What is racist about touting a popular line of pancake batter ?

Lecktor, you are an insensitive hillbilly because you think that you're entitled to own private property!

-Kiamat Dusk

I can read VERY well tyvm Mulch

oops, my bad

yeah, you're probably thinking, "dammit, somebody taught a girl to read!" aren't ya???

Maybe he thought you'd had too much tequila

It seems that some of you may have missed the fact that she has already been convicted once. This decision to not pursue further prosecution is essentially "a second bite at the apple" as the only key difference from the previous case is that the ongoing relationship/series of activities occured across a county line and thus the second jurisdiction tried to get its shot at the woman.

I have say, however, that it does SEEM that if the gender roles were reversed, additional pressure to continue the case (perhaps to the point of an acquittal as convictions are NEVER guranateed) due to a prevailing sense of political correctness and media attention-seeking by certain parties involved in the case.

OTOH, why get one's panties in a twist if this is not a local issue to you? Similar cases have probably been going on for millenia, they just didn't make the news in the same vein. Consider the movie Summer of '42... I don't remember a whole hell of a lot of scandal over it link when it came out. There have certainly been other cases that have made the news and garnered less "outrage" and indignation than this one...

So why this one?

You should also be asking what is wrong with vermont?
She actually has a tougher sentence than alot of rapists out there now!

Judge: No prison time
for 'gay' rapist teacher
On heels of Vermont outrage,
predator gets only probation

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48397

Anyone also remember 60 day probation for a child rapist that confessed to multiple rapes?

This isn't a oh she's a pretty girl scandal.

A few other examples:

In Rhode Island, 18-year-old Josh Maciorski was convicted of having sex with a 13-year-old girl, but sentenced to probation. Two years later he molested a 14-year-old girl and served just one year. Then, when he got out, Maciorski raped a 16-year-old girl. His sentence after this third strike - an unbelievable three years in prison.

In Missouri, 19-year old Darrell Jackson pleaded guilty to repeatedly sexually abusing a little girl, beginning she was just eight. But when Jackson came up for sentencing, a soft judge gave him four months in prison and five years probation.

In Minnesota, Joseph Duncan stood in front of a judge, accused of molesting a young boy. Despite the fact that Duncan had previously served 16 years for raping another young boy at gunpoint, the judge released him on just $15,000 bail. Duncan promptly skipped bail and headed for Idaho, where he allegedly kidnapped, raped, and killed a 9-year old boy, molested his sister, and killed their family.

Yeah, World Net Daily, they're reliable purveyors of information. LOL. Scroll down and you can link to the story about how homosexuals hoodwinked the Supreme Court into overturning Texas' sodomy laws. LOL. If this happened the way it did, it would be a travesty, the problem is that WND is so outrageously biased and unreliable, we don't know what really happened. And when I googled the guy's name in Google News, only a link to another extreme partisan rag came up.

Well I SUPPOSE that could be possible

THIS is the best I could come up with.....:(

Source this source that, there are several sources of the same story and what media isn't biased?

How many people get away with rape with nothing to little time of probation? Alot and it's unfortunate but even with felony rape the minumum time is a 1 year sentence and maximum is ten year sentence. I've heard of even confessed multiple child molestors going away with 60 days probation and people who get away with it for less.

Victims of rape are called a liar by at least one of their friends or family members when they come forward and the rapists don't get punished hard. This isn't a she's a pretty girl, she can't get locked up. If that's the case Mary Kay Letourneau would not have been locked up.

The following is from The St. Petersburg Times:

Too Pretty for Prison? That's just beautiful.

By HOWARD TROXLER, Times Columnist
Published July 21, 2005

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Peter Griffin, the loutish lead character in the animated TV series The Family Guy, gets liposuction in one episode and discovers that beautiful people enjoy a secret and privileged existence. He learns this waiting in line at the supermarket:

HANDSOME STRANGER: Come on up in front.

PETER : But people were in front of me.

HANDSOME STRANGER: You haven't been beautiful very long, have you? Gorgeous guys like us don't have to wait in line.

Peter is taken to a luxury mansion where all the beautiful people in town hang out. Naturally, even in The Family Guy's twisted application of TV sitcom rules, Peter eventually learns the error of his ways and goes back to being his old unattractive self.

In general, I do not mind if beautiful people believe they have a separate set of rules, as long as they do not expect me to admire them, and do not ask me to go out of my way for them. I would not recognize Paris Hilton, who I gather is a beautiful person of current notoriety, if she marched in the front door to cancel her subscription.

But occasionally even the lives of beautiful people intersect those of the less beautiful, and in such cases, the common rules of society must apply.

This brings us to Debra Lafave, the former (definitely former) instructor at Greco Middle School in Hillsborough County, who faces felony charges alleging, shall we say, improper conduct (definitely improper) with a teenage boy.

This week, talks over a plea deal between Lafave and prosecutors broke down, and her trial was rescheduled for December. Lafave's lawyer, the veteran and able John Fitzgibbons of Tampa, objected because the state wished her to serve what he considered an unacceptable amount of prison time.

Explained Fitzgibbons:

To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like placing a piece of raw meat in with the lions. I don't think Debbie could survive it.

The comment is instructive. The lawyer might have tried to argue that Lafave's crimes were not worthy of prison (good luck with that). He might have argued that mitigating factors, whatever they are, should spare her from incarceration.

But whether deliberate or automatic, Fitzgibbons' argument was precisely that Lafave should not be subjected to prison because she is beautiful. She would be "raw meat in with the lions." Cue images of leering prison matrons from Chained Heat.

If I were on a jury and a lawyer argued his client should not go to prison because he or she was beautiful, I would be offended. Of course, I would stick by my oath to consider only the facts. But, like that crazy umpire in Monday night's Devil Rays game, I would not be inclined to give the tie to the runner, if you know what I mean.

If she is guilty, she should go to prison. She is accused of the same crime as many a male teacher who has abused his position of authority and trust. Either we change our laws to say it's not as bad when a woman does it, or we need to apply the law regardless of who the defendant is.

Notice I said, "if she is guilty." Fitzgibbons intends to raise an insanity defense. That is a tough job under Florida law, since the legal standard for insanity is being so wacked out that you didn't know what you were doing was wrong. But he's entitled to try.

If that doesn't work, Fitzgibbons still will be entitled to argue that whatever pressures Lafave felt should be considered as mitigating circumstances to keep her out of prison. Since I have not heard all the evidence, and since I am not employed by a cable television network, I am content to wait to hear his case.

As long as he doesn't try to argue that she's too pretty.

Here's the thing though. There are alot of male rapists that don't serve time in prison and people are treating this case as though because it's a female it's less harsh which is not the case. The justice system is whacked so even though the defense was going with the pretty defense, it doesn't automatically mean that she got the light sentence for that because alot of ugly old men who rape children get probation so it's also the case of how the justice system works.

I can see why people think this though considering when celebrities get in trouble, their sentences are very light in comparison to your average Joe who would get locked up for life...O.J anyone? What about the basketball star that served no time for rape?