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05-05-2006 06:08

From: Zuzu Fassbinder

That's my point, perceptions are what matter. If she can reverse the image she has then she may have a shot, but its gonig to be an uphill battle since many have already made up their minds. Very few even looked at the health care plan, but again it's the perception of it (big government, socialism, etc..). I thought a lot of the ideas in the health care plan were good, but the marketing was poor and it solidified the image of Hillary as strongly liberal. I'd vote for her if she ran, but I don't think she would win.

If she came out with a strong plan to address the major issues: energy, health care, corruption, national debt, war on iraq/terrorism, etc. in the way that the Republicans did the Contract for America. If she took a moderate stance. And if she had some excellent marketing, I think she would have a good chance.

Many people have been bitten by health care in the Bush years, so their perceptions may have changed. Employer-based health care insurance isn't working for a vast number of people. And those that have it, see rising premiums and co-pays.

The Republicans have done themselves alot of damage. If the Democrats, or anyone can pull together an intelligent, moderate plan... and sell it effectively, then they would have an excellent chance of winning the White House.

Let's see what happens at the mid-terms. I belief we're ready for some moderate politicians instead of far-left, far-right.

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05-05-2006 07:14

From: Falcao Vega

We were 'Osama's Bitches' on 9/11 precisely because there was a Republican in the White House on 9/10.

How so?

Osama rose to power under the Clinton Administration.

Briana Dawson

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05-05-2006 16:08

Ahh, I've 'arrived.' This 'Briana,' whoever she is and whatever she matters, brings her magnificent intellect to bear on a post of mine. Woohoo!

'Rose to power,' what a load of horsesh*t. Hahaha!
* Osama 'left a mess in his diapers that had his wetnurse swearing never again to feed him dates' under the Johnson administration.
* Osama 'made a face like a pufferfish and made his cousin cry' under the Nixon administration.
* Osama 'listened to some Black Oak Arkansas while playing air guitar and daydreamed of groping a groupie' under the Ford administration.
* Osama 'stubbed his toe and issued a string of epithets that quite shocked him' under the Carter administration.
* Osama 'went and got a milkshake for 95 cents' under the Reagan administration.
* Osama 'discovered he had headlice' under the Bush I administration.

But he 'rose to attack the US,' no matter how little wingers want to admit it, only under the Bush II administration. That is to say, under the not-so-diligent watch of a president whose eyes, according to voluminous testimony by those who were there, were completely off the ball.

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05-07-2006 15:56

Presidents role is to read speaches, and take breathbreaks when the speach says so. The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers

i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies.

Look at Jon Stewards at comedy central and you realy don't need to look at cnn and mainstream media again.

My two cents:

"Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty." - Plato

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - Bush

Noshit Bush, it'd save the lives of many people during 9/11.

In the end the truth finds it's own way around deception even if it's got to be through comedy.

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05-07-2006 16:05

From: Andy Grant

Presidents role is to read speaches, and take breathbreaks when the speach says so. The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers

i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies.

Look at Jon Stewards at comedy central and you realy don't need to look at cnn and mainstream media again.

My two cents:

"Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty." - Plato

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - Bush

Noshit Bush, it'd save the lives of many people during 9/11.

In the end the truth finds it's own way around deception even if it's got to be through comedy.

Ok, now we know Andy gets all his news from Jon Stewart.

Additionally, I'd like a little clarification on your statement:

From: someone

"The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers

i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies."

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05-07-2006 16:13

From: Falcao Vega

Ahh, I've 'arrived.' This 'Briana,' whoever she is and whatever she matters, brings her magnificent intellect to bear on a post of mine. Woohoo!

'Rose to power,' what a load of horsesh*t. Hahaha!
* Osama 'left a mess in his diapers that had his wetnurse swearing never again to feed him dates' under the Johnson administration.
* Osama 'made a face like a pufferfish and made his cousin cry' under the Nixon administration.
* Osama 'listened to some Black Oak Arkansas while playing air guitar and daydreamed of groping a groupie' under the Ford administration.
* Osama 'stubbed his toe and issued a string of epithets that quite shocked him' under the Carter administration.
* Osama 'went and got a milkshake for 95 cents' under the Reagan administration.
* Osama 'discovered he had headlice' under the Bush I administration.

But he 'rose to attack the US,' no matter how little wingers want to admit it, only under the Bush II administration. That is to say, under the not-so-diligent watch of a president whose eyes, according to voluminous testimony by those who were there, were completely off the ball.

I'm not going to disagree that any of the things you describe actually happened to Osama, but I wonder where you would place the following:
1. The First World Trade Center Bombing 1993
2. Mogadishu in 1993
3. Khobar Towers in 1996
4. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998
5. A fatwa to kill Americans and their Allies - 1998
6. USS Cole bombing in 2000

Just wondering how you ignore these facts

Andy Grant

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05-07-2006 16:24

Let's just copypaste from a independent site:

NONE OF THE WORDS BELOW ARE MY WORDS, JUST A COPYPASTE. (you can google to the source)

------------------COPY-PASTE-START----------------------

"Charlie Sheen exposes 9-11 ....

[CONTENT REMOVED DUE TO COPYPASTE RULES, WICH ARE ABOVE FREE SPEECH, FREE OPINION, AND ARE ABOVE THE PRESIDENT]
------------------COPY-PASTE-END----------------------

Champie, i actualy find cnn news more funny than jon stewards. I'm gettning my news from all sources and make conclusions based on common sense.

Fool me once, and shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me.

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05-07-2006 16:28

From: Andy Grant

Let's just copypaste from a independent site:

<cut for brevity>

Fool me once, and shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me.

Andy, best of luck to you. I'd prefer not to engage you in any further discussion on any topic.

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05-07-2006 16:38

From: Champie Jack

Andy, best of luck to you. I'd prefer not to engage you in any further discussion on any topic.

Champie, you sound like you got something to hide, something you don't like people to know. And keep asking foolish questions. We all will be judged, i prefer to engage in discussions, even if i sometime criticize my own decisions in order to test wether i'm on track of truth or deception. People like you seek work at administrative positions

So ok, i'm now gonna not engage in ANY furhter discussions, because it's propably against, copy-paster rules.

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05-07-2006 17:01

Now i did reverse engineering, and removed what ever triggered anger in your brain. Please explain to my crazy brain, what that was about.

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05-07-2006 17:09

From: Champie Jack

Ok, now we know Andy gets all his news from Jon Stewart.

Additionally, I'd like a little clarification on your statement:

Champie, we have a president that hardly can construct a sentence at the same time trigger wars with half middle east at the same time. And Secretary of Defence that can't make account for $2,6 Trillion.

I don't know much, but i don't see Rumsfeld and Bush to be remembered as heros, thats as little as i learned from history lessons.

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05-07-2006 18:14

From: Champie Jack

I'm not going to disagree that any of the things you describe actually happened to Osama, but I wonder where you would place the following:
1. The First World Trade Center Bombing 1993
2. Mogadishu in 1993
3. Khobar Towers in 1996
4. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998
5. A fatwa to kill Americans and their Allies - 1998
6. USS Cole bombing in 2000

Just wondering how you ignore these facts

Right on the money Champie.

Thanks

Briana Dawson

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05-07-2006 18:25

From: Andy Grant

Champie, we have a president that hardly can construct a sentence at the same time trigger wars with half middle east at the same time. And Secretary of Defence that can't make account for $2,6 Trillion.

I don't know much, but i don't see Rumsfeld and Bush to be remembered as heros, thats as little as i learned from history lessons.

Andy, I have no problem with what you are saying, but I feel that we are so opposed to each others point of view, that I think it may be best if we don't engage each other.

I'm happy to have you as a participant in this thread. In no way to I desire to silence your views. I just don't think we should have a discussion with each other.

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05-07-2006 18:26

From: Briana Dawson

Right on the money Champie.

Thanks

Briana Dawson

it is my pleasure.

Andy Grant

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05-07-2006 21:54

All i was trying to do was to be open minded, but ok. I guess the best desciption of the difference in our point of view's is: http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2005/dec/video/dnB20051223a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=6:55
or link to the broadcaster website http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1450216&mode=thread&tid=25

However that is a funny conversation, and abit off topic.

Champie Jack

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05-08-2006 11:04

From: Andy Grant

All i was trying to do was to be open minded, but ok. I guess the best desciption of the difference in our point of view's is: http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2005/dec/video/dnB20051223a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=6:55
or link to the broadcaster website http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1450216&mode=thread&tid=25

However that is a funny conversation, and abit off topic.

Honestly Andy, I really can't understand what you are saying. I imagine that someone understands what you are saying, so I hope they get some benefit from your posts. I don't.

Also, please don't IM me in-game again with comments about this discussion.

Renee Ingmann

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05-08-2006 12:01

From: Reitsuki Kojima

Right.

Because "Dubbya" is a stupid monkey.

Except when he's an evil mastermind.

But then he's a stupid monkey again.

Until he's an evil mastermind again.

Oh tisk tisk... Don't insult Monkies intelligence.... Bush WISHES he was as smart as a monkey

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05-08-2006 12:56

From: Renee Ingmann

Oh tisk tisk... Don't insult Monkies intelligence.... Bush WISHES he was as smart as a monkey

best of luck to you Renee.

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Surreal Farber Cat Herder Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 2,059	05-05-2006 06:08 From: Zuzu Fassbinder That's my point, perceptions are what matter. If she can reverse the image she has then she may have a shot, but its gonig to be an uphill battle since many have already made up their minds. Very few even looked at the health care plan, but again it's the perception of it (big government, socialism, etc..). I thought a lot of the ideas in the health care plan were good, but the marketing was poor and it solidified the image of Hillary as strongly liberal. I'd vote for her if she ran, but I don't think she would win. If she came out with a strong plan to address the major issues: energy, health care, corruption, national debt, war on iraq/terrorism, etc. in the way that the Republicans did the Contract for America. If she took a moderate stance. And if she had some excellent marketing, I think she would have a good chance. Many people have been bitten by health care in the Bush years, so their perceptions may have changed. Employer-based health care insurance isn't working for a vast number of people. And those that have it, see rising premiums and co-pays. The Republicans have done themselves alot of damage. If the Democrats, or anyone can pull together an intelligent, moderate plan... and sell it effectively, then they would have an excellent chance of winning the White House. Let's see what happens at the mid-terms. I belief we're ready for some moderate politicians instead of far-left, far-right. _____________________ Surreal Phobos 3d Design - putting the hot in psychotic since 2004 Come see our whole line of clothing, animations and accessories in Chaos (37, 198, 43)
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-05-2006 07:14 From: Falcao Vega We were 'Osama's Bitches' on 9/11 precisely because there was a Republican in the White House on 9/10. How so? Osama rose to power under the Clinton Administration. Briana Dawson
Falcao Vega Hands off the unguent Join date: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 66	05-05-2006 16:08 Ahh, I've 'arrived.' This 'Briana,' whoever she is and whatever she matters, brings her magnificent intellect to bear on a post of mine. Woohoo! 'Rose to power,' what a load of horsesht. Hahaha! Osama 'left a mess in his diapers that had his wetnurse swearing never again to feed him dates' under the Johnson administration. * Osama 'made a face like a pufferfish and made his cousin cry' under the Nixon administration. * Osama 'listened to some Black Oak Arkansas while playing air guitar and daydreamed of groping a groupie' under the Ford administration. * Osama 'stubbed his toe and issued a string of epithets that quite shocked him' under the Carter administration. * Osama 'went and got a milkshake for 95 cents' under the Reagan administration. * Osama 'discovered he had headlice' under the Bush I administration. But he 'rose to attack the US,' no matter how little wingers want to admit it, only under the Bush II administration. That is to say, under the not-so-diligent watch of a president whose eyes, according to voluminous testimony by those who were there, were completely off the ball.
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	05-07-2006 15:56 Presidents role is to read speaches, and take breathbreaks when the speach says so. The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies. Look at Jon Stewards at comedy central and you realy don't need to look at cnn and mainstream media again. My two cents: "Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty." - Plato "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - Bush Noshit Bush, it'd save the lives of many people during 9/11. In the end the truth finds it's own way around deception even if it's got to be through comedy.
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-07-2006 16:05 From: Andy Grant Presidents role is to read speaches, and take breathbreaks when the speach says so. The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies. Look at Jon Stewards at comedy central and you realy don't need to look at cnn and mainstream media again. My two cents: "Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty." - Plato "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." - Bush Noshit Bush, it'd save the lives of many people during 9/11. In the end the truth finds it's own way around deception even if it's got to be through comedy. Ok, now we know Andy gets all his news from Jon Stewart. Additionally, I'd like a little clarification on your statement: From: someone "The thing you vote is the thing you buy. 9/11 was not an error, it was a total success for the buyers i'm laughing but it realy ain't funny, it's worth to cry about such policies."
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-07-2006 16:13 From: Falcao Vega Ahh, I've 'arrived.' This 'Briana,' whoever she is and whatever she matters, brings her magnificent intellect to bear on a post of mine. Woohoo! 'Rose to power,' what a load of horsesht. Hahaha! Osama 'left a mess in his diapers that had his wetnurse swearing never again to feed him dates' under the Johnson administration. * Osama 'made a face like a pufferfish and made his cousin cry' under the Nixon administration. * Osama 'listened to some Black Oak Arkansas while playing air guitar and daydreamed of groping a groupie' under the Ford administration. * Osama 'stubbed his toe and issued a string of epithets that quite shocked him' under the Carter administration. * Osama 'went and got a milkshake for 95 cents' under the Reagan administration. * Osama 'discovered he had headlice' under the Bush I administration. But he 'rose to attack the US,' no matter how little wingers want to admit it, only under the Bush II administration. That is to say, under the not-so-diligent watch of a president whose eyes, according to voluminous testimony by those who were there, were completely off the ball. I'm not going to disagree that any of the things you describe actually happened to Osama, but I wonder where you would place the following: 1. The First World Trade Center Bombing 1993 2. Mogadishu in 1993 3. Khobar Towers in 1996 4. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 5. A fatwa to kill Americans and their Allies - 1998 6. USS Cole bombing in 2000 Just wondering how you ignore these facts
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	Napoleon said, China will rise and world will shake. 05-07-2006 16:24 Let's just copypaste from a independent site: NONE OF THE WORDS BELOW ARE MY WORDS, JUST A COPYPASTE. (you can google to the source) ------------------COPY-PASTE-START---------------------- "Charlie Sheen exposes 9-11 .... [CONTENT REMOVED DUE TO COPYPASTE RULES, WICH ARE ABOVE FREE SPEECH, FREE OPINION, AND ARE ABOVE THE PRESIDENT] ------------------COPY-PASTE-END---------------------- Champie, i actualy find cnn news more funny than jon stewards. I'm gettning my news from all sources and make conclusions based on common sense. Fool me once, and shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me.
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-07-2006 16:28 From: Andy Grant Let's just copypaste from a independent site: <cut for brevity> Fool me once, and shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me. Andy, best of luck to you. I'd prefer not to engage you in any further discussion on any topic.
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	05-07-2006 16:38 From: Champie Jack Andy, best of luck to you. I'd prefer not to engage you in any further discussion on any topic. Champie, you sound like you got something to hide, something you don't like people to know. And keep asking foolish questions. We all will be judged, i prefer to engage in discussions, even if i sometime criticize my own decisions in order to test wether i'm on track of truth or deception. People like you seek work at administrative positions So ok, i'm now gonna not engage in ANY furhter discussions, because it's propably against, copy-paster rules.
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	05-07-2006 17:01 Now i did reverse engineering, and removed what ever triggered anger in your brain. Please explain to my crazy brain, what that was about.
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	05-07-2006 17:09 From: Champie Jack Ok, now we know Andy gets all his news from Jon Stewart. Additionally, I'd like a little clarification on your statement: Champie, we have a president that hardly can construct a sentence at the same time trigger wars with half middle east at the same time. And Secretary of Defence that can't make account for $2,6 Trillion. I don't know much, but i don't see Rumsfeld and Bush to be remembered as heros, thats as little as i learned from history lessons.
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-07-2006 18:14 From: Champie Jack I'm not going to disagree that any of the things you describe actually happened to Osama, but I wonder where you would place the following: 1. The First World Trade Center Bombing 1993 2. Mogadishu in 1993 3. Khobar Towers in 1996 4. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 5. A fatwa to kill Americans and their Allies - 1998 6. USS Cole bombing in 2000 Just wondering how you ignore these facts Right on the money Champie. Thanks Briana Dawson
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-07-2006 18:25 From: Andy Grant Champie, we have a president that hardly can construct a sentence at the same time trigger wars with half middle east at the same time. And Secretary of Defence that can't make account for $2,6 Trillion. I don't know much, but i don't see Rumsfeld and Bush to be remembered as heros, thats as little as i learned from history lessons. Andy, I have no problem with what you are saying, but I feel that we are so opposed to each others point of view, that I think it may be best if we don't engage each other. I'm happy to have you as a participant in this thread. In no way to I desire to silence your views. I just don't think we should have a discussion with each other.
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-07-2006 18:26 From: Briana Dawson Right on the money Champie. Thanks Briana Dawson it is my pleasure.
Andy Grant Registered User Join date: 20 May 2005 Posts: 140	05-07-2006 21:54 All i was trying to do was to be open minded, but ok. I guess the best desciption of the difference in our point of view's is: http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2005/dec/video/dnB20051223a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=6:55 or link to the broadcaster website http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1450216&mode=thread&tid=25 However that is a funny conversation, and abit off topic.
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-08-2006 11:04 From: Andy Grant All i was trying to do was to be open minded, but ok. I guess the best desciption of the difference in our point of view's is: http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2005/dec/video/dnB20051223a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=6:55 or link to the broadcaster website http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1450216&mode=thread&tid=25 However that is a funny conversation, and abit off topic. Honestly Andy, I really can't understand what you are saying. I imagine that someone understands what you are saying, so I hope they get some benefit from your posts. I don't. Also, please don't IM me in-game again with comments about this discussion.
Renee Ingmann Registered User Join date: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 37	05-08-2006 12:01 From: Reitsuki Kojima Right. Because "Dubbya" is a stupid monkey. Except when he's an evil mastermind. But then he's a stupid monkey again. Until he's an evil mastermind again. Oh tisk tisk... Don't insult Monkies intelligence.... Bush WISHES he was as smart as a monkey
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	05-08-2006 12:56 From: Renee Ingmann Oh tisk tisk... Don't insult Monkies intelligence.... Bush WISHES he was as smart as a monkey best of luck to you Renee.

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