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What's so wrong about murder?

Reitsuki Kojima
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02-25-2006 18:05
From: AJ DaSilva
You're six people now? I think Garoad was talking about the poll. :rolleyes:


Actually, I'm seven people and one dog.

I'll cheerfully retract my comment, however. I didnt actually look at the poll statistics at the time.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-25-2006 18:06
From: Garoad Kuroda
I was talking about the poll!



:rolleyes:


Cheerfully retracted!
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Mulch Ennui
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02-25-2006 18:25
From: Reitsuki Kojima

Considering I did no such thing, I don't see how I can support it. Boy howdy you got me there, I can't support something I in no way even implied!


Ahem

From: Blueman Steele

Is killing innocent Iraqi's murder?


From: Reitsuki Kojima

Depends which side of the war your on :) In short, no, I don't believe war counts as "murder" in the strictest sense. I'm not excusing it, I just don't think its the same thing.


From: Mulch Ennui

just because your "freedom loving" government commits or orders the commission of murder does not make it something else other than murder

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and btw, only the congress has the power to declare war. when was the last time they did so and what does your answer have to do with the question?



From: Reitsuki Kojima
Because a war is a war between soldiers, in which innocents die, rather than a case of an innocent being a deliberate target. You're not going to get anything more incriminating out of me on that


From: Mulch Ennui
and btw, only the congress has the power to declare war. when was the last time they did so and what does your answer have to do with the question?


From: Reitsuki Kojima

I'll bite and answer your question however. The last formally declared "war" was in 42.


From: Mulch Ennui

Your validation of murder is war. While your validation, to some, may justify the killing of Germans, Japanese, and their helpers in WW2, it has 100% nothing to do with the innocent Iraqi referenced in the OP.


From: Reitsuki Kojima

...stop putting words in my mouth.


From: Mulch Ennui
well then support your justification of killing innocent Iraqis with another reason besides a 1942 declaration of war!!!!


From: Reitsuki Kojima
Why is it you want me to explain everything to you? Can't you do your own homework?


I am still waiting for your logical justification of killing innocent Iraqis

Gonna ignore your other respsonses because you danced around and gave non answers, hence I will give up my pointless, fruitless attempt to understand how you can reconcile the contradictions brought up.

From: Reitsuki Kojima

I'd love to see an example of your work.


That might compromise my secret identity

unless you have a very high disposable income for luxury items, you probably wouldn't find me anyway
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-25-2006 18:33
From: Mulch Ennui
Ahem

I am still waiting for your logical justification of killing innocent Iraqis


For the last time, I'm not justifying killing innocent people. You are the one saying I am, not me.

I'm saying I don't consider it murder. That's not the same thing as justifying it, or thinking its ok.

Helps, by the way, if you don't drop the last half of my fourth quote, where I list a military action being declared in '02.

From: Mulch Ennui
Gonna ignore your other respsonses because you danced around and gave non answers, hence I will give up my pointless, fruitless attempt to understand how you can reconcile the contradictions brought up.


I debated not answering them at all, because they aren't really related to this thread.

From: Mulch Ennui
That might compromise my secret identity

unless you have a very high disposable income for luxury items, you probably wouldn't find me anyway


Depends on the luxury item :) Probably not, I'm sorta a poor college student at the moment, but I'm always curious.
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Christopher Omega
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02-25-2006 18:39
You really need to include an "Other (post below)" option on your poll. I personally believe that aborting a fetus after the first trimester is wrong, and therefore, if I was a woman, I would not do that. However, I do not impose my beliefs on other people, which is why I am pro-choice. Unfortunately, your poll simply states "abortion is murder" without inciting any further explanation.

I am also anti-capital punishment/death-penalty because I believe when a person dies should not be determined by the government.
==Chris
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