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Whats a democrats worse nightmare?

Kendra Bancroft
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03-25-2006 05:45
From: Noh Rinkitink
Like Kendra, I don't get it, though possibly not for the same reason.

There's nothing saying that one party has a lock on a certain political philosophy, so that if you are, say, a liberal, you can't be Republican, or you can't be a conservative if you're not a Democrat. Does "Rockefeller Republican" or "Reagan Democrat" ring any bells? :)



That was the reason.
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03-25-2006 08:00
From: Jonas Pierterson
you do realize that the patriot act reads that a president will remain in office as long as there is an active war, right?


... I doubt it.. but I think they would like that.. its cheaper than running an expencive campaign to have their next Ringer in office..
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03-25-2006 09:09
From: Einsman Schlegel
But which President?



Boy George W. Bush thats who. The Dictator
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03-25-2006 09:13
I'll feel free to laugh at all these "emperor" and "dictator" comments when the next election goes ahead as usual and the president does the same shit that they all do when they leave the house.
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03-25-2006 10:27
From: Garoad Kuroda
I'll feel free to laugh at all these "emperor" and "dictator" comments when the next election goes ahead as usual and the president does the same shit that they all do when they leave the house.


Ironically, the only present that comes even close to trying to rule as an emporer isn't to be found in the Republican party or its spiritual predecessors.

FDR served four terms, breaking a tradition going back to Washington of only two terms then stepping down, and in the late 1930s he was actively working, through Congress, to try expand the number of Justices in the US Supreme Court because the existing ones wouldn't rule in favor of some of his "New Deal" programs, to make room for Justices from his party that would presumably rubber-stamp the objectionable programs. (info)
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03-25-2006 11:10
From: Briana Dawson
Whats a democrats worse nightmare?


Somebody who has 4 grammatical errors in 5 words, with one of the two correct words being "a".
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03-25-2006 12:57
From: Michael Seraph
Isn't liberal republican one of those urban myths like compassionate conservative, term limits, campaign finance reform or regulating lobbyists?


Or "moderate Democrat"? Or "Libertarian office-holder"?
Or Ted Kennedy's swimming ability?
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03-25-2006 13:04
Howard Dean
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03-25-2006 16:04
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Howard Dean



What's wrong with Howard Dean?
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03-25-2006 17:32
From: Toni Bentham
Or "moderate Democrat"? Or "Libertarian office-holder"?
Or Ted Kennedy's swimming ability?


Clinton was a moderate democrat.
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03-25-2006 21:00
From: Michael Seraph
Clinton was a moderate democrat.



Clinton was a conservative democrat.

Nixon was a liberal republican.

Bush is a fucking fascist.
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03-25-2006 22:07
From: Kendra Bancroft
Clinton was a conservative democrat.

Nixon was a liberal republican.

Bush is a fucking fascist.


I would still classify Clinton as a moderate. But you are abso-fucking-lutely right about Bush.
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03-26-2006 00:02
From: Kendra Bancroft


Bush is a fucking fascist.


Ya, we're all a f#$king something or other, unless we're completely celebate and don't masturbate, but all the hatred? I get that you hate Bush and the adminstration but why not be a little more constructive instead of the bashing. You said earlier, "whats wrong with Howard Dean?", well he was on CNN or MSNBC the other day, can't remember which, but he was saying Bush doesn't care about the troops or the war and doesn't want to deal with it anymore and is leaving it for the next president to deal with. People know that these are untruths or choose to believe what they want. Either way, I don't think it puts him in a good light. I would just rather see something positive come out of all this instead of the name calling and same ole rhetoric about how evil Bush is or he's a terrorist, not quoting you :), or other things he has been called simply because they don't like the man. I'm not great at debating issues, but with that said, I have read a lot of your posts and feel that you are very informed but always seem to push the negative and derogitory remarks. Please don't take this as a personal attack because it's not. I have respect for your opinions. It just seems to me that you and others, including those in office, would be more productive and appealling to the voters if you spent more time finding ways to improve this country instead of wasting so much time with these counter-productive insults. Just my opinion:D Sorry wasn't trying to single you out. Just that remark got my fingers moving

BTW I have tended to lean to the right lately but have voted democrat on occasion. I did vote for a Dem Senator in the last election, but she wasn't spending her campaign dollars bashing her opponet, her ads dealt more with what she would like to do or change. That impresses me more than the ads telling about all the opponets skeltons or whatever.
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03-26-2006 00:27
From: Kendra Bancroft
Bush is a fucking fascist.


Please don't insult us neofascists like that. Thanks.
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03-26-2006 00:38
From: Spinner Poutine
Ya, we're all a f#$king something or other, unless we're completely celebate and don't masturbate, but all the hatred? I get that you hate Bush and the adminstration but why not be a little more constructive instead of the bashing. You said earlier, "whats wrong with Howard Dean?", well he was on CNN or MSNBC the other day, can't remember which, but he was saying Bush doesn't care about the troops or the war and doesn't want to deal with it anymore and is leaving it for the next president to deal with. People know that these are untruths or choose to believe what they want. Either way, I don't think it puts him in a good light. I would just rather see something positive come out of all this instead of the name calling and same ole rhetoric about how evil Bush is or he's a terrorist, not quoting you :), or other things he has been called simply because they don't like the man. I'm not great at debating issues, but with that said, I have read a lot of your posts and feel that you are very informed but always seem to push the negative and derogitory remarks. Please don't take this as a personal attack because it's not. I have respect for your opinions. It just seems to me that you and others, including those in office, would be more productive and appealling to the voters if you spent more time finding ways to improve this country instead of wasting so much time with these counter-productive insults. Just my opinion:D Sorry wasn't trying to single you out. Just that remark got my fingers moving

BTW I have tended to lean to the right lately but have voted democrat on occasion. I did vote for a Dem Senator in the last election, but she wasn't spending her campaign dollars bashing her opponet, her ads dealt more with what she would like to do or change. That impresses me more than the ads telling about all the opponets skeltons or whatever.



Stop watching Fox News.
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03-26-2006 00:42
From: Kendra Bancroft
Stop watching Fox News.

LOL what did that have to do with anything? I watch Fox CNN and MSNBC. They're all corrupt
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03-26-2006 00:42
From: Spinner Poutine
I get that you hate Bush and the adminstration but why not be a little more constructive instead of the bashing.


When we are constructive, nobody wants to hear it.

From: Spinner Poutine
You said earlier, "whats wrong with Howard Dean?", well he was on CNN or MSNBC the other day, can't remember which, but he was saying Bush doesn't care about the troops or the war and doesn't want to deal with it anymore and is leaving it for the next president to deal with.


Bush has said he is leaving when we pull out our troops to future presidents... of iraq. It has been widely misreported that Bush said he would leave it to future presidents (in general). Whichever version you choose to use, his statement was a 'meh, whatever' to the whole iraq thing. Further, Dean would be right about Bush not caring about the troops. He had plenty of smarter minds telling him he needed an exit strategy before he entered into the conflict.

From: Spinner Poutine
Either way, I don't think it puts him in a good light. I would just rather see something positive come out of all this instead of the name calling and same ole rhetoric about how evil Bush is or he's a terrorist, not quoting you, or other things he has been called simply because they don't like the man.


The most positive thing I can think of with all the name calling is that that kind of stuff is far more interesting to watch. I frankly don't care about british politics but it's a lot more fun to watch or listen to.

From: Spinner Poutine
I'm not great at debating issues, but with that said, I have read a lot of your posts and feel that you are very informed but always seem to push the negative and derogitory remarks. Please don't take this as a personal attack because it's not. I have respect for your opinions. It just seems to me that you and others, including those in office, would be more productive and appealling to the voters if you spent more time finding ways to improve this country instead of wasting so much time with these counter-productive insults.


See, that's the kind of speech we get out of politics most of the time. Dancing around the issues, apologizing ahead of time, etc etc. We'd get so much more done just telling people what's on our minds. A more direct phrasing would be "OMG STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE." To which one should succintly reply, "PANTS TO THAT."

The reality is that republicans now control pretty much every branch of government. So when bad things happen, guess who's fault it is. No amount of speeches, yelling, or whining about the bad things by democrats will affect that complete control unless republicans also start complaining about the bad things.

No amount of ideas or proposals from democrats will affect the situation either when there's that level of control. Back in '04, we had so many good ideas that they got put in a book. It's called, "Our Plan for America: Stronger at Home, Respected in the World". You can still get it on Amazon.

From: Spinner Poutine
BTW I have tended to lean to the right lately but have voted democrat on occasion. I did vote for a Dem Senator in the last election, but she wasn't spending her campaign dollars bashing her opponet, her ads dealt more with what she would like to do or change. That impresses me more than the ads telling about all the opponets skeltons or whatever.


I recall voting against a democrat congressman that spammed the hell out of me once. I also voted for a republican senator once because his only opponent was a complete asshat. I think voting should be a more 'right person for the job', rather than 'following a party platform most aligned with myself'.

Bush may or may not be a fascist, but he is incompetant for the job. If he was a doctor, his malpractice insurance would be really, really high by now.
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03-26-2006 01:20
From: Siro Mfume
When we are constructive, nobody wants to hear it.



Bush has said he is leaving when we pull out our troops to future presidents... of iraq. It has been widely misreported that Bush said he would leave it to future presidents (in general). Whichever version you choose to use, his statement was a 'meh, whatever' to the whole iraq thing. Further, Dean would be right about Bush not caring about the troops. He had plenty of smarter minds telling him he needed an exit strategy before he entered into the conflict.


I guess this Would be all on how you interpret it. I look at it as the war will not be finished by 2008, even tho I would hope it to be, as they said right after 9/11 that it may take many years to end the war on terror, whether you consider this to be part of the war on. Can't argue we need an exit strategy, but even after that there will still be troops in Iraq...Germany comes to mind


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The most positive thing I can think of with all the name calling is that that kind of stuff is far more interesting to watch. I frankly don't care about british politics but it's a lot more fun to watch or listen to.
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See, that's the kind of speech we get out of politics most of the time. Dancing around the issues, apologizing ahead of time, etc etc. We'd get so much more done just telling people what's on our minds. A more direct phrasing would be "OMG STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE." To which one should succintly reply, "PANTS TO THAT."
Not trying to dance around the issues, let the lawyers and such handle the legalities. Yes the people should be aware of what's going on, but it's hard to decifer what's true and what's not when the major political voices are known to be against the administration no matter what it's for or against. Where's the truth to be found in all the bias. I'm saying be more productive

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The reality is that republicans now control pretty much every branch of government. So when bad things happen, guess who's fault it is. No amount of speeches, yelling, or whining about the bad things by democrats will affect that complete control unless republicans also start complaining about the bad things.

Why would the Reps complain? They are in control, as you said, but they also see what the complaining and yelling is doing for the Democratic party. I think it's hurting them in the long run. JMO

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No amount of ideas or proposals from democrats will affect the situation either when there's that level of control. Back in '04, we had so many good ideas that they got put in a book. It's called, "Our Plan for America: Stronger at Home, Respected in the World". You can still get it on Amazon.

Their ideas were hardly promoted tho, the media focused on all the bashing, from both sides, I never heard any real proposals during the debates or anywhere for that matter. other than Kerry promoting his website if you wanted to search, instead of giving it while he had the floor. Tho I guess I should blame the media for covering the juicy stuff.


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I recall voting against a democrat congressman that spammed the hell out of me once. I also voted for a republican senator once because his only opponent was a complete asshat. I think voting should be a more 'right person for the job', rather than 'following a party platform most aligned with myself'.

I totally agree on this

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Bush may or may not be a fascist, but he is incompetant for the job. If he was a doctor, his malpractice insurance would be really, really high by now.
I have a hard time believing there is someone who would be competent at this stage of the game. The far left and the far right are too extreme to do this country any justice, yet they are the ones in the spotlight all the time
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03-26-2006 01:29
From: Nolan Nash
A democrat's worst nightmare?

Hillary and Condi throwing a sex toys party on the White House lawn.


Wow. I hadn't thought that was a nightmare. I woke with a biiig smile on my face! doh! I said that out loud. *holds hands over mouth and runs off to sleep*

But seriously folks: a smart republican. Fortunately most of them (the smart conservatives) end up Libertarian and noone takes them seriously anymore. whew!

Anyone not hear my cats with opposable thumbs / Harper analogy before?
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03-26-2006 01:44
From: Spinner Poutine
LOL what did that have to do with anything? I watch Fox CNN and MSNBC. They're all corrupt



Stop watching TELEVISION news.
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03-26-2006 02:01
From: Kendra Bancroft
Stop watching TELEVISION news.

Well, you got me there, unfortunately that's all we're allowed to watch at work.
/me trying to rig wires to pick up Cinemax...ugh
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03-26-2006 04:34
From: Spinner Poutine
I did vote for a Dem Senator in the last election, but she wasn't spending her campaign dollars bashing her opponet, her ads dealt more with what she would like to do or change. That impresses me more than the ads telling about all the opponets skeltons or whatever.


Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the viewpoint of that senator is a common one in her party, which is a shame for those who try to vote on the issues, not attacks.

(That rarity is exemplified by Howard "I hate Bush, and so should you!" Dean being made the DNC chairman, IMO.)
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03-26-2006 04:45
From: Noh Rinkitink
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the viewpoint of that senator is a common one in her party, which is a shame for those who try to vote on the issues, not attacks.

(That rarity is exemplified by Howard "I hate Bush, and so should you!" Dean being made the DNC chairman, IMO.)



Your attack on Howard Dean as being nothing but a Bush-basher is exactly the type of character assassination you're criticizing. Stp wtaching relevision and do some reading.
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