FireFox superior to IE?

Which GUI? KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, etc.? Linux is just the base of many Linux distributions, all of which are packaged and deployed differently, with different levels of user friendliness...and some with radically different GUIs. (Some more intuitive than others.)

Distributions that work as you say, of course, do exist.

That wasn't my point really though. Just that Safari is based on Konqueror's KHTML engine, a technology that had been evolving on Linux based systems (mainly PCs) long before it existed on the Mac....and any PC users who want to try a more evolved version of Safari, only need install Linux & KDE (a 'windowed' desktop environment). Hell, they can download Knoppix...which runs from CD or DVD...without even having to install a single file on their hard drives. And no "editing text files" and researching things for eight hours to get your sound working on that either.

You can right click on a page in Opera and select Block Content to block specific items on a page (for example, if you are sick of the SL header at the top, you can block it). Opera also has ad blocking capabilities - there is an add on as well that makes it easier to use:

http://www.diplo.co.uk/design/operatools.php

ANYTHINGS better then IE. I use both opera and firefox. I use opera when i wish to do quick browsing without interuptions, but firefox is good for its extension ability.

Sorry, but I think it's a bad generalisation to say there are "NO user-friendly versions" based on three of four examples. I can think of many. I don't understand where you're coming from with the C++ comment. Even if you're referring to the GNU kernel, libraries, system utilities, compilers -- the library is C, not C++...and such programming knowledge is absolutely not required for many present-day, user-friendly Linux distributions.

I mentioned Knoppix elsewhere...I'd be amazed if you found yourself outside the windows GUI configuring *anything* -- provided you downloaded a 2006 version. Likewise for Mandriva Linux whose administration philosophy revolves around using a windowed GUI for configuring rather than having to drop to command line.

I don't actually use Linux on a day to day basis anymore...and I'm not advocating people switch to it...I just disagree with a lot of information here.

I'm downloading the latest version as I type this.

Okay, trying it now: Okay--they finally added the keyboard shortcuts. It's about time. Fonts are no longer loading incorrectly. That's about time. It was only 7 months ago that I had tried it last, and completely gave up on it when I received the kind of tech support I had received. It looks like they finally have made a good browser. Sorry I was so harsh on it, but their earlier versions were absolute rubbish. Wow, google news is loading correctly. CNN is loading correctly. Time is loading correctly. I'm amazed--talk about some updates--I can only hope that SL will be as thorough about their updates I'll be checking Opera out more. Thanks.

It's been a little while since I last used it but I'm sure there was a GUI for apt-get in there, with descriptions and search functions and dependencies and all that stuff. But drivers can be a nightmare, certainly, not that that's usually anyone's fault but the manufacturer's.

Hell, I'm not going to evangelise for it, I use OS X and my main machine will soon be a PC. On which will be XP, as well as maybe an Ubuntu partition.

At least 50% of programs that I want that are available for Linux are only available as source code. Currently, based off the dozens of people I've talked with online over the past 4 years, there are no gui tools for compiling programs--it's all in the shell, and when library versions like libsigc have changed their syntax, it requires me to go through and edit the source code in order to compile.

I'm not going to use an operating system just to surf the web and get emails--I like to use my computer for other things--like making music, and all the programs I want to use for making music are only available as source code.

If you can find a version of linux that will automatically work with my M-Audio Delta-66 sound card, I'd be happy. Also, if you can find a version that OpenGL is actually enabled and working with my Geforce FX 5500 video card without having to go into a shell and install it by hand, I'd be happy too, and I'd be willing to try another distribution of linux.

You accidentally put a question mark in your thread title.

I have some clients who use ActiveX for their websites. In Firefox, it doesn't work period but a less functional interface loads up on the ones I access. I think the same goes for Opera since it did not work when I tried. There might be plugins but never looked much and I imagine it wouldn't be as functional as the built-in IE approach. Perhaps someone else knows of a well made ActiveX plugin for FF or Operah? If any.

Yea...God forbid I still have to use ActiveX. Doesn't bother me much though as long as it gets the job done.

That's very unusual for binaries to be unavailable. What are those programs?



They're not providing reliable information then. The Kdevelop and Anjuta front ends have been around for many years, and some would argue that they're more intuitive than some Microsoft and Borland IDEs. As have more commercial based IDEs, and of course, Borland's famous attempt: Kylix. These are OLD, OLD, fully-fledged, windowed, integrated development environments.



Then it's a good job the manufacturer is providing Linux drivers from their website I guess!



Likewise, NVidia has provided closed source drivers with full OpenGL support for years, and if you choose a window orientated Linux distribution (Mandriva for example), these can be installed via point and click. These drivers evolve fast...and many Second Life users with the Linux client use them.

Try using Maxthon - it uses Internet Explorer for its rendering engine, but offers a lot more features, including tabbed browsing, ad block, and much more. It is what I use as my primary browser in conjunction with Opera 9. I used Firefox for awhile and went back to Maxthon before discovering Opera 9. Maxthon will support the ActiveX control your client's site uses.

Everyone knows that linux doesn't require you to use C++ ;0 You need to know Perl!

Netscape 1.22 PWNS.

The only better browsers are lynx and elinks.

Finding support for your M-Audio sound card won't be easy, alas. But complain to M-Audio about that one, not to the Linux people; if they would release driver specifications instead of forcing people to try to reverse-engineer their products, the support would be there.

As for the NVidia card, SUSE can manage that easily; just tell YaST to install the NVidia drivers. Doesn't happen out of the box, because they can't distribute them (proprietary driver limitations), but it's a simple click in their update installer. I think other current Linux distros such as Fedora Core and Ubuntu can do it as well.

i second the maxthon thing. been using it for years and i absolutely love it...even more than firefox which i've also tried

and for ubuntu, yea. try a normal soundcard maybe. ubunti was the first distro i ever tried that just magically worked. everything was 100% happy and i was ready to make the switch from windows...cept poser didn't run under wine for me and blender made my head explode

*moving to sandbox*

First off, thanks for the Mandriva tip.

It's been over a year since I tried getting these music programs going, so I can't immediately remember the names--I'm looking for midi-controllable music tracker programs (music trackers use a columns and rows approach to music, with lots of hex values and adjustments), especially if I can find some that can use VST instruments (which I couldn't find last time I looked). Emulator programs are usually source-code only--like Vice c64 emulator--I wrote an email to the makers of Vice asking how to compile it and they gave me an 8 paragraph explanation.

Are Kdevelop and Anjuta available right away in some distributions, and are they set up right away in those distributions "out-of-the-box" so to speak, or do I have to apt-get them first?

I did sort-of get my sound card working, using ICE1712 drivers, but could never get them to stick when the computer restarts. M-Audio doesn't supply linux drivers for their hardware--they suggested opensound which is incompatible.

A distribution that I was impressed by, but its gui still has some bugs to work out, was Karora (sp) that comes with XGL--it seemed to work with my video card right away, and once they get the bugs worked out of XGL, I'm going to love it.

HAHAHA Opera owns all browsers! Firefox sucks!

Opera started it's life as a full blown paid-for commercial product (even IE was free..), which is one reason why it's the best--it had to be or it wouldn't sell.

The Opera page zoom is quite superior to the other browser's.

My old 15 inch monitor I use for browsing is dying, I'm getting a new 17 monitor today.

With Opera's page zoom zoomed up to where the forums fill the page width,these forums will be frighteningly big.

That Maxthon browser Cristiano mentioned looks pretty nice. I've got it going along with the latest Opera weekly build, 9.01 Build 8542. I'll have to see if the Maxthon browser survives the Tangleword test. Tangleword uses java in some quirky and has never worked right on anything but Internet Explorer.

I even tried the latest Netscape browser, which I think is a Firefox variant. It seemed fine to me.

Netscape version 4.26 will always be my sentimental favorite, from back in the days of dial-up and my DX2-66.

Wouldn't know about Debian. Tend to choose more friendly, commercial distributions...designed for ease of use (at home anyway)...although I did maintain a Gentoo box between 2002 & 2005 for a router. Yes, KDevelop will ship with any Linux distribution that comes with KDE...and that's surely over 95% of them. With KMandriva? Yes, it's on the CDs and a point and click install away from the Admin applet. Same with Anjuta.

KDevelop screenshots: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.0/screenshots1.html
Anjuta screenshots: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots

They're both actually, really good development tools.



Odd...I got information that they provided closed source ones now at Linux Answers. Sorry 'bout that. I notice Gentoo users find them easy to setup using Alsa...therefore, I would've though they'd work out of the box with something like Mandriva or Red Hat.



I actually chose NVidia cards until recently because I wanted graphics cards that were guaranteed to not only work with Linux, but that would also produce fast OpenGL framerates. I always found the Nvidia closed source driver (produced by NVidia) to be much better than the open source one in that respect.

I think Cheesetracker is pretty good, doesn't have vst plugins though. Soundtracker is old, but very stable.

This should be informative:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/8/2524/90038

For a non-tracker, tracker-like program lmms is excellent.. also has some primitive vst support. It is aiming to be like fruity loops

If you're worried about RAM and HDD taken up by firefox, you need a new computer. As in, post-Win95.

Which extension is this?