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                | Nolan Nash Frischer Frosch   Join date: 15 May 2003 Posts: 7,141 | 10-05-2005 07:57 From: Seth Kanahoe But not above linking to the SLU thread in question, so that everyone could go see it for themselves. Why bother? (Ya, I admit, I looked at it. I wish I hadn't.)   This is not an unfriendly comment, btw. It didn't strike me as the right thing to do, but I may have missed something.    As for Cienna Samiam, I thought she was gone. She created a performance out of it in another thread about changes in the ToS, and I took her seriously. Or is she planning a come-back off-Broadway before hitting the Big Apple again?     Cienna and the others involved are usually wickedly creative people, or creatively wicked, depending on the circumstances. What happened in that thread was just plain wrong. Something else was going on there. Hate to see silence replace the repartee, though. Can't we all barb, duck, joust, skewer, and love at the same time?To be honest, I am a bit unsure why Cris linked it too, Seth.  Closing down a thread and then linking to it doesn't make the best sense to me, but then who am I to talk about sense? I've done some pretty non-sensical things in my tenure here.
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                | DogSpot Boxer vortex thruster   Join date: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 671 | 10-05-2005 08:00 From: Seth Kanahoe What happened in that thread was just plain wrong. Something else was going on there.
 I'm not sure what you mean by "something else", but I know *I* didn't have anything other than being supremely POed with a few people. There was a lot said to me in PM that wasn't called for and  I just had enough.
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                | Seth Kanahoe political fugue artist   Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,220 | 10-05-2005 08:28 The "unfriendly" comment I made was directed toward Cristiano. I might disagree with his decision to link, but I wanted to ask him about it and didn't want him to think that this was just another flame. 
 The "something else was going on here" comment came from something Chip Midnight said in another thread that got me thinking. He said that the SL landscape is littered with unexploded mines - agendas, old hurts, etc., that new people or "less-traveled" people know nothing about. Fair enough. So now I wonder when I see something like what happened on the SLU thread.
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 09:04 From: Seth Kanahoe But not above linking to the SLU thread in question, so that everyone could go see it for themselves. Why bother? (Ya, I admit, I looked at it. I wish I hadn't.) It is a valid question, actually. I was not offended by it. In the context of this thread, I thought it was a great example of what can happen if this is all left unchecked. Granted, I probably should have put a warning on it. I think it illustrates in a painful way how out of control these silly forum disagreements can get. There is so much pent up animosity, and the main question is why? What is accomplished by going back and forth like that ad naseum? Many of us, myself included, are guilty of the verbal game of back and forth and one upmanship, though I have never seen anything get that out of hand.  Arguing, disagreeing, even silly name calling and sarcastic quips are one thing - trying to annihilate each other verbally is something else. Ultimately, I linked to it for some introspection, though I think those who most need to see it won't get much from it. It's not even about Nolan and Dogspot (or Cienna). They just let their anger get the best of them. It's about what these forums are doing to people. Is it worth it?
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                | Khamon Fate fategardens.net   Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177 | 10-05-2005 09:33 I used to know everything when I was the metaverse.  It was kind of boring really.  Wonder who's the metaverse now? 
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 09:39 From: Khamon Fate I used to know everything when I was the metaverse.  It was kind of boring really.  Wonder who's the metaverse now?Taco Rubio
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                | Merwan Marker Booring...   Join date: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,706 | 10-05-2005 10:47 From: Snowcrash Hoffman Elvis is not dead! You are a lier Merwan!Shhhhhhh SH!!  
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                | Merwan Marker Booring...   Join date: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,706 | 10-05-2005 10:48 Would someone from both sides (assuming there are but 2) give me the cliff-notes of this thread... Time is short! Thanks in advance...  
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                | Margaret Mfume I.C.   Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,492 | 10-05-2005 11:36 From: Merwan Marker Would someone from both sides (assuming there are but 2) give me the cliff-notes of this thread... Time is short! Thanks in advance...  Weedy gave her state of on the forum on Bullies, Alts, Hypocrites and Know-it-alls  Bravo!      Oh yeah?  Well... pot, kettle, black same old, same old ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~unravelling thread~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ neener neener  nanny nanny boo boo Are you looking at me? Why don't you guys take it outside?   SL General ------------------------------------------------------>>>> SLUniverse forum the (anti)good, the bad, and the ugly whole lot of nasty Historic moment:  Cris tries on Jeska's panties and finds that he likes it very much!    Unable to resist the lure of this dark power, Cris locks his 1st thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! SL General <<<<------------------------------------------------------ SLUniverse forum recap of stats Run!  It's the real Jeska! rewind tape and hit play
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                | Jeska Linden Administrator   Join date: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 2,388 | 10-05-2005 11:37 I think it's safe to say that this thread has delved into the land of Off-Topic and as such is being moved. | 
        
            
                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 13:18 From: DogSpot Boxer I need to speak up here. 
 Cristiano is exactly right. He didn't take sides. In fact, I interpreted his "my money is on Nolan" comment to be an attempt to inject some humor into the thread to help defuse the situation.
 
 I have no further comments regarding that thread. It was, as Cris said, ugly and further comment would only serve to reignite that which was put out when the thread was closed.
 
 If anybody is _really_ interested, PM me or IM in world.
I can live with that    BUT I still question his motives for placing the link in the SL FORUMS. Mar | 
        
            
                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 13:23 From: Cristiano Midnight It is a valid question, actually. I was not offended by it. In the context of this thread, I thought it was a great example of what can happen if this is all left unchecked. Granted, I probably should have put a warning on it. I think it illustrates in a painful way how out of control these silly forum disagreements can get. There is so much pent up animosity, and the main question is why? What is accomplished by going back and forth like that ad naseum? Many of us, myself included, are guilty of the verbal game of back and forth and one upmanship, though I have never seen anything get that out of hand. 
 Arguing, disagreeing, even silly name calling and sarcastic quips are one thing - trying to annihilate each other verbally is something else. Ultimately, I linked to it for some introspection, though I think those who most need to see it won't get much from it. It's not even about Nolan and Dogspot (or Cienna). They just let their anger get the best of them. It's about what these forums are doing to people. Is it worth it?
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 13:41 From: Martin Magpie Excuse me?  Kettle Black.You can't come up with something more creative that kettle, black Catherine? Notice in that I said I have been guilty of the back and forth. However, in all the arguments I have ever had with you, I have never gotten down to the level of what was in that thread. For you to claim any different is ridiculous. Look in the mirror yourself, and come up with something new. Maybe even learn something from it.
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 13:42 From: Martin Magpie I can live with that    BUT I still question his motives for placing the link in the SL FORUMS. MarI explained why I put a link to it. Question all you want, you don't get to determine my motives. It was an argument that started in these forums, and spilled over to somewhere else. In the midst of a thread about forum bullies, rants, blah blah blah, it was germaine.
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                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 13:54 From: Cristiano Midnight You can't come up with something more creative that kettle, black Catherine? Notice in that I said I have been guilty of the back and forth. However, in all the arguments I have ever had with you, I have never gotten down to the level of what was in that thread. For you to claim any different is ridiculous. Look in the mirror yourself, and come up with something new. Maybe even learn something from it.Finished calling me catherine yet?  I mean really Crissy how times is that now in the last 24-48 hours?  10-12 more?  What’s the point of that?  I see no reason to be calling me catherine since my screen name here is Martin Magpie after all. Never gotten to that level?  Oh please you are the king when it comes to digs one offs and digs, outing alts and publishing personal information on your personal web about your enemies.   Catherine has left the building.  All I can say with absolute certainty is that this account is none of your damn business.  Might be Catherine then again might not be, does it matter that much to you?  It apparently does because you have become fixated on that aspect of things and other conversations in recent days, regardless of the topic at hand.    I would strongly suggest you think long and hard about the fixation you have with Catherine and her account.  I do believe LL would tell you to mind your own business and if they don't... well mind your own damn business.  Who am I well obviously my screen name is Martin so I must be Martin.  Did I have an account under another name?  Well if I did I probably was honest about it.  So what's the problem then?  There is none this is a bully tactic that forum shit stirrer's are really good at.  Which was my point after all Mr. Kettle Black. Martin  that’s Martin with an "M" | 
        
            
                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 13:55 From: Cristiano Midnight I explained why I put a link to it. Question all you want, you don't get to determine my motives. It was an argument that started in these forums, and spilled over to somewhere else. In the midst of a thread about forum bullies, rants, blah blah blah, it was germaine.I dont get to queston your motives?  LOL who are you God.  Anyone has a right to question anyones motives in the LL Forums.  Mar | 
        
            
                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 13:59 From: Martin Magpie I dont get to queston your motives?  LOL who are you God.  Anyone has a right to question anyones motives in the LL Forums. 
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You don't read. I said you can question them, but you don't get to define for me what my motivations were.
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                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 14:00 From: Cristiano Midnight You don't read. I said you can question them, but you don't get to define for me what my motivations were.LOL Kettle Black.  Your an odd little man. | 
        
            
                | Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826 | 10-05-2005 14:01 From: Cristiano Midnight You don't read, Catherine. I said you can question them, but you don't get to define for me what my motivations were.__________________
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                | Willow Zander Having Blahgasms   Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 9,935 | 10-05-2005 14:01 From: Martin Magpie I dont get to queston your motives?  LOL who are you God.  Anyone has a right to question anyones motives in the LL Forums. 
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Um From: someone Finished calling me catherine yet? I mean really Crissy how times is that now in the last 24-48 hours? 10-12 more? What’s the point of that? I see no reason to be calling me catherine since my screen name here is Martin Magpie after all.Are you questioning motives there? Sorry, had to be done, i'm bored and haven't trolled in like, FOREVAH. 
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 14:03 From: Martin Magpie Finished calling me catherine yet?  I mean really Crissy how times is that now in the last 24-48 hours?  10-12 more?  What’s the point of that?  I see no reason to be calling me catherine since my screen name here is Martin Magpie after all.
 Never gotten to that level?  Oh please you are the king when it comes to digs one offs and digs, outing alts and publishing personal information on your personal web about your enemies.
 
 Catherine has left the building.  All I can say with absolute certainty is that this account is none of your damn business.  Might be Catherine then again might not be, does it matter that much to you?  It apparently does because you have become fixated on that aspect of things and other conversations in recent days, regardless of the topic at hand.
 
 I would strongly suggest you think long and hard about the fixation you have with Catherine and her account.  I do believe LL would tell you to mind your own business and if they don't... well mind your own damn business.
 
 Who am I well obviously my screen name is Martin so I must be Martin.  Did I have an account under another name?  Well if I did I probably was honest about it.  So what's the problem then?  There is none this is a bully tactic that forum shit stirrer's are really good at.  Which was my point after all Mr. Kettle Black.
 
 Martin  that’s Martin with an "M"
My god, you are the one who told everyone this was your alt. Remember "Martin aka Catherine Cotton and Claire aka None of your business"? Now that you have killed off Catherine Cotton for whatever reason, people are just supposed to pretend after 2.5 years that it isn't you? Please, that is ridiculous.  You can suggest all you want. However, considering all the riduclous accusations you have made about Nolan and I, it is a bit rich coming from you SINCE THIS IS YOUR ALT BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION. I don't have any fixation on you. Look at most of my posts, I generally address people by name when responding to them. Now that you have magically changed names and genders, fine, I will play whatever weird game you want and call you Martin.
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 14:04 From: Martin Magpie LOL Kettle Black.  Your an odd little man editing out a name like that.It was habit of calling you Catherine, I did it out of request from you. You are the one who quoted it, and paid no attention to what else it said.
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                | Willow Zander Having Blahgasms   Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 9,935 | 10-05-2005 14:04 From: Cristiano Midnight I will play whatever weird game you want and call you Martin.Can you play my weird game and call me Herbert Von Diptron.
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                | Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron   Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616 | 10-05-2005 14:06 From: Willow Zander Can you play my weird game and call me Herbert Von Diptron.Anything for you, mi amor.
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                | Willow Zander Having Blahgasms   Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 9,935 | 10-05-2005 14:07 From: Cristiano Midnight Anything for you, mi amor.<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3  You RAWK! Ok, i'm done trolling, back to Whinefest '05
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