"U.S. cannot defeat China in a War"

Haha excellent! More of this and less of 'my dad's harder than your dad' is just the ticket

Thats one-hundred million man army.



They have new cruise missiles and new cruise missile nuclear powered subs. They have 5 Aircraft Carriers being constructed right now and have a large merchant marine. Many United States ships are armed with only 5 inch/54 cal. guns. China has gun cruisers with 8 inch guns. plus they have many more Cruisers with Cruise missiles. and the new Exocet Anti-Shipping missile from France.



China has a good merchant marine fleet. And they have good Airlift abilities.


China has been purchasing modern ships some with 8 inch guns. They are almost about to launch their First Aircraft Carrier and they have about 40 Nuclear Attack Subs built by other nations.


United States ships mothballed are typically near the end of their lifespan and are one step from scrapping. China has new merchant marine and airlift abilities.


China has new fighting jets.

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Proof?




Uh. If China descended upon Los Angeles, you can bet every army unit in the world would be running that way to defend the country. Along with every person with a gun in a 5-state radius. In times of (real) war, people support the President because he's the leader. He's the guy we look to, no matter how horrible he is.

Roosevelt wasn't the most popular president either, you know.




Interesting. My brother doesn't hail from Bombay... he's from Pittsburgh. Steelworker for years.




Which is quite laughable, seeing as we have an all-volunteer army full of well-trained soldiers that can and will defend our country to the last man?



Er, well, the thought of the day was probably "where am I going to get food at if the barbarians keep burning my farms?", in between their mental jibberings because there was too much lead in the aqueducts.

And then Feudalism happened as a direct result.

GG history.

LF

Umm yes we can. China's biggest military asset is its manpower which can be drastically decreased in the first wave of a nuke strikes. And if you think we (The US) won't use nukes to defend our country you are delusional. Within minutes most of the US's mobile nukes (read subs. Any assets in Japan) will be within a couple minutes of target. Then you have ICBM's. Not sure what % can't reach China but doubtless Western cost states have enough nukes to easy pepper most of China's military assets and cities. Then you have bombers, and undisclosed weapons I’m 100% certain the US hasn’t disclosed. I mean the US is creating weapons that are some type of wave that fucks up a person. depending on who you talk to it either causes extreme pain or something akin to a seizure.
Imagine a battlefield where you send out such a pulse. Screw projectile weapons. We may not win a war but we won’t lose it.

Now were was I...trying to figure out how to build a lake...

We have troops in New Zealand, Mongolia, and India?

Don't confuse our government with the current executive. And I'd take our system over China's any day. Even with Georgie boy in charge.

Yeah, World War II was just about some politicians who just couldn't get along. War may be evil, but sometimes it's the best of many evils.

This is the funniest post yet. "Don't underestimate commie fanaticism." LOL! Weedy, you ever been to a communist country? Where are all those commie fanatics in Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic? And when Castro dies, I'll bet my ass that Cuba will quietly go capitalist. Heck, China isn't communist anymore. It's just a repressive, one party state. And it wasn't just the USA in Korea, it was the UN in Korea. And it was more of tie than a loss.

Japan started the war. They bombed us in Hawaii. Without provocation. Japan committed many, many atrocities during the war. Ever hear of the Rape of Nanking? Ever read anything about the way the Japanese treated their prisoners of war? Ever read about the Korean women forced to be camp prostitutes? Japan refused to surrender. Japan got bombed. I seem to be missing what the US did wrong here.

You all seem to have missed the key statement as to the "why" behind the premise that China would win:

"America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives"

As in, China wouldn't care if we bombed the shit out of them because they don't value human life, and they would not hesitate to fight dirty.

Haha, people have really gotten confused about things. China's military is crap. Their jets are crap. They're all commied up. China is very corrupt.

People like to project China future as if it's going to be able to continue on this path with their little commie dictatorship running things. I don't think people realize how unstable China is. They have tens of thousands of riots in the small poor towns every year. People don't know much about it because the commies keep it out of the news. Also, news people in the west don't really care about what's happening in China because they're too busy pretending that George Bush is the greatest danger to earth. So nobody hears about their instability.

When people are talking about a war with China, I assume they are talking about the US and Taiwan fighting to keep China from taking over Taiwan. I don't think anyone anywhere thinks China could invade the US and take over cities or anything. People imagine that China could just send millions of people running over the water to Taiwan, but they need to use boats and stuff to move the soldiers and tanks. To move those ships, they first have to control the air. For China to maybe take control of the air, they would have to sacrifice most of their crappy air force. Then they would have to deal with the navies of the US, Taiwan, Japan, who has a tremendous navy that nobody seems to know about, and whoever else wants to be adults and help out.
It's quite possible that France would side with China, but France has no power other than some nuclear missiles that may or may not still be working. Socialism isn't very good for keeping things working.

OMG! I thought of that before too!

Yeah, use nukes, blow your asses to the sky, we all are going to smoke radiactive fumes the next morning, we all lose... -_-

You guys lack the most common sense.....

bah, why the hell do we want to fight a war with anyone. Land? no, got plenty of that. Energy? heh, somehow it feels like we're expending more energy than we're gaining in our current energy war. Supremacy? sure, cept, when you set yourself up as a giant, you bring out the giant killers, really bad idea. Reputation? ya, that's climbing at a phenominal rate right now... oh wait... which way is climbing? right after world war 2 I might have bought the rational that we were trying to prevent another empire builder from trying to conquere the world... but, we don't have to pick fights with little guys to do that, so obviously not our current motivation. I really really don't understand. Are we doing this because it's what we've always done? I realize that happens more often than it should but I don't really understand that either .

I guess hundreds of thousands being incinerated by regular bombs is more "humane" or morally acceptable than an a-bomb. (See German cities).

Hey, what if we had gone in and decapitated the entire Japanese Imperial Army with their own swords? Wold that have been an acceptable means to exterminate them?

Death be by cold steel, a bullet, a conventional bomb or an a-bomb equals death. Just ask the dead.

The United States would have lost hundreds of thousands of troops if they had to take island-by-island it was a matter of "your dead or my dead".

Remember Pearl Harbor...

Everybody was kung-fu fighting...

To understand the world better, you should read more. It's a lot of work, but it will make you smarter about how things work in the world, so you don't have to believe in all kinds of lame conspiracy theories to fill in the holes that you don't bother to fill with intelligence.

I believe in consipiracy theories? I love to read, however you're right, not the kinds of things that would give me insight into world politics .